Re: [f-AA] Aeronca Digest, Vol 122, Issue 21

[jfarrelly]

Flew my Chief into a smooth strong headwind the other day and saw ground speed drop to 33mph on my GPS then after a 180 turn, saw a readout of 115 over the ground. That was a wow.

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All that with out MMO!

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> On Oct 21, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Flew down to Moontown for their monthly breakfast today. Going down was 52 mph GS. Fifty miles took 1+05.  But look at the GPS coming back. Took 26 minutes. Aeronca Pilots like that.  roger
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[Rafael]

Did the paint pell off?

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[Roger Anderson]

My first GPS use was a borrowed one when I picked up my Chief in NY.  After first fuel stop in PA somewhere and I turned west to go around Camp David, for the next two hours the GPS GS was 44mph.   After that, I briefly thought I didn't really want one of those things.  I think I still preferred being in the ignorance is bliss category of flight.   roger

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Subject: Re: [f-AA] Aeronca Digest, Vol 122, Issue 21

[Dan Vandermeer]

At the risk of making Doug’s head explode I’ll say that a GPS is mandatory equipment for my cross country flights. 

Early this week I encountered a wall of unforecast and  impenetrable IMC half way between Charleston SC and Brunswick GA. I was blocked to the south, had the Atlantic to the east and several very large restricted areas and MOA’s to the west. My options were to turn west where the weather was clear or turn back. My paper chart was invaluable in finding an acceptable alternative  to the west (Waycross GA) and in planing a route and time estimate within my fuel limits. The GPS allowed me to skirt the government’s airspace. I’m a believer in using whatever tools I can to make VFR flight in vintage aircraft as safe and simple as possible. 

Without the GPS I would have turned back. Savannah approach was very busy handling arrivals, departures and rerouting IFR traffic around the several “hot” MOA’s. I wasn’t certain they would have accepted a request of VFR advisories at my very low altitudes. With the GPS I didn’t have to ask. 

Dan v

[Harvey Brock]

  Dan,

     I agree. The GPS is a great back up to help keep you safe in tight spots. If I'm flying cross country, I take my tablet with the free Avare app just in case. Of course, I still prefer dead reckoning but the added backup is comforting.

Harvey

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From: Dan Vandermeer <danv...@gmail.com>
Date:10/22/2017 5:28 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: Re: [f-AA] Aeronca Digest, Vol 122, Issue 21

[Doug Rounds]

When I was instructing new airline pilots on the airline I told them that  their electronic magic needs a back up--we used sectional charts and made all new pilots buy them and we checked them if they had a problem. If you fly long enough you will find all this high dollar nav stuff can be a funeral. If you didn't learn the stuff you are still in still in trouble  regardless how much money you spend--since  I have 2 family members that are air traffic controllers they both say  you folks need to learn to basic navitgation that I taught them--all that electronic help may be on vacation when you need it.. After all it is a taxpayer government program that may be on vacataion when you need it.  Doug

P.S.  Ever hear a professional pilot say --"I wouldn't trust my mother if I didn't learn that she never learned how to fly". Especailly when it was raining..

[Rafael Gomez Blanco]

I the Grumman stops fighting me every step of the way, I will be teaching my son how to fly and the old navigation skill will be required.  He is working on E6B skill, the Ipad with out batteries :)

[Thomas Holmes]

Botijo,

pay attention to the stall speed of your Grumman.  It's not a Cheep! ;-)

Tampa Tom

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Tampa Tom

[Rafael Gomez Blanco]

Yeah you have to fly it all the way to the ground.  And it was the AA-1 it has the glide ratio of a cannon ball.