[f-AA] nav light, radio install for 7AC Champ. Any XCOM radio experience??

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william miller

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:12:34 PM11/18/09
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Hello list,
 
I am interested in putting nav lights and a radio on/in my Champ.
 
LIGHTS: The mounting pads are on the wingtip bows and tail. Does anyone know where i can obtain a set of nav lights that are original or near original in appearance?  
 
Also does anybody have experience in combining a small strobe into the position light module so that i can avoid having to install a large ugly rotating beacon?
 
For those of you wondering "why would he want to do this"?
 The answer: I really enjoy flying at sunset. Unfortunately my Champ is based at a towered airport and i have to be on the ground and shut down by sunset since i don't have lights. I just want to be able to stay up there flying for another 20 minutes to fully enjoy the sunset, thats all.
 
Second issue: RADIO: I have a handheld and intercom now and I am losing patience with it. Time to install a real radio. I am considering a Becker 4201 for about $2400 as i need the remote unit due to space considerations, or the XCOM 760 for about $1400. Does anybody have any experience with either of these units?
 
And last power requirements. I have a 65 so I will need to add a small battery. Does any one have any helpful suggestions on this?  
 
 
Thanks in advance for any help anyone may provide. If you feel the info would be better be discussed off list feel free to contact me that way.
 
thanks, alan miller 

Rich Dugger

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:16:45 PM11/18/09
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For the strobe, I would look long and hard at the LED variety.
Now that I think about it I would do the same for the position lights.
 
 
 
Rich
 
 


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11ac

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:50:07 PM11/18/09
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I believe the latest AOPA magazine (I think that was it) had an article about LED being the future of aircraft lighting and recommended it.  For small radios, I had a MicroAir 720 (is that it) in an Ercoupe a few years ago.  Fit in a standard instrumernt panel cut out and worked great.  For the battery in my Chief, I have a jumper cable, power pack, automotive parts store quick start unit.  It already came with two cigarette lighter type plug in recepticles.  It runs my Icom IC A21 and Lowrance 500 for a long time between recharging.  Don't know how long it would last with lights.  I have it "temporarily" mounted against the seat with industrial strength velco straps. 

j...@joea.com

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Nov 18, 2009, 6:31:08 PM11/18/09
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You guys might want to look here:

http://joea.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2729&hilit=transponder

Battery powered, self contained radio and transponder unit. Has photos and is a
very nice looking unit.

Joe A

> towered airport andi have to be on the ground and shut down by sunset sincei don't

> have lights. I just want to be able to stay up there flying for another 20 minutes to fully
> enjoy the sunset, thats all.
>
> Second issue:RADIO: I have a handheld and intercom now and I am losing patience

> with it. Time to install a real radio. I am considering a Becker 4201for about $2400 as

> i need the remote unit due to space considerations, or theXCOM 760 for

> about$1400. Does anybody have any experience with either of these units?


>
> And last power requirements. I have a 65 so I will need to add a small battery. Does
> any one have any helpful suggestions on this?
>
>

> Thanks in advance for any help anyone mayprovide. If you feel the info would be

> better be discussed off list feel free to contact me that way.
>
> thanks, alan miller

Lapthorne, Peter (AZ75)

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:24:37 PM11/18/09
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XCOMS are a good small radio. I’ve installed a few.

 

Their support has been great.

 

Wally is a 65 HP 11AC with no electrics. I use a 4 AH 12 V Yaesu  Gel Cell to power the Comm and intercom. Have never run out of volts.

 

Have not messed with a GPS power source. I have a compass and a clock. That does for most all of my navigating needs.

 

Cheers

Peter Lapthorne,

BGA Field Service Engineering

Phone +61 3 9933 0106

Fax +61 3 9335 1884

Shoe Phone +61 417 567 243

 

Honeywell Aerospace - Melbourne

26 - 34 Fraser St.

Airport West

Vic. 3042

Australia

 

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Rick Hadley

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:39:49 PM11/18/09
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Peter, how do you have your battery mounted in Wally?  I've got a 5ah gel cell here that I've been considering using to power the VXA-710 and the 600C GPS.
 
Rick
Chief NC86196



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Lapthorne, Peter (AZ75)

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:09:35 PM11/18/09
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A previous owner mounted a zip box behind the passengers legs on the floor against the front of the seat.

 

The battery is placed in there, terminals connected and then the lid of the box screwed on to hold it all together.

 

The battery is taken out to recharge it.

 

Cheers

Peter Lapthorne,

BGA Field Service Engineering

Phone +61 3 9933 0106

Fax +61 3 9335 1884

Shoe Phone +61 417 567 243

 

Honeywell Aerospace - Melbourne

26 - 34 Fraser St.

Airport West

Vic. 3042

Australia

 

"This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, are intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and contain Honeywell confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying which amounts to misappropriation of this e-mail and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof."

 

Travis Gregory

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:04:34 PM11/18/09
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Alan,

I know somebody that has the original Grimes lights for sale. I don't think you need a rotating beacon. When the airplane was new a steady white light shining aft was required. That's what I have.
Contact me on my regular email for particulars. I also have collected some good battery information.

travis
Lgrif...@msn.com



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Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 2:12:34 PM
Subject: [f-AA] nav light, radio install for 7AC Champ. Any XCOM radio experience??

Ian Harvie

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:20:41 AM11/19/09
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Alan, I have fitted an XCOM 760 in the last two aircraft I restored and
have been very pleased with them. It has built in voice activated
intercom and you can get a remote head for the second cockpit.
The battery I fitted was made in Germany and very impressive (I think
the company is owned my Hawker) Have forgotten the name but it can be
very expensive and weighs 12.5 lbs. A friend recommended it after
installing two in a Chipmunk (24 volt system) It cranked the DH engine
over with no trouble. Also quite small in size. Otherwise use a small nicad.
Just did a google search and couldn't pick up the type number but it is
called Enersys.

Ian

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Greg Lucas

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:07:26 AM11/19/09
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Alan,

I have an Icom A200 powered by an Odyssey Gel Cell in my Champ.

The radio is mounted vertically below the instrument panel on the RHS
next to the fuselage. A bit hard to read but more than adequate
considering the limited use it gets. The battery is mounted between the
front rudder pedals and is charged in situ via a cigarette lighter
socket. Only reason I chose the Icom over the XCOM was that I already
had an intercom and the Icom was cheaper. Intercom is a PS Engineering
unit mounted next to the radio. Can send a photo if needed

Greg

william miller wrote:
> Second issue: RADIO: I have a handheld and intercom now and I am
> losing patience with it. Time to install a real radio. I am
> considering a Becker 4201 for about $2400 as i need the remote unit
> due to space considerations, or the XCOM 760 for about $1400. Does
> anybody have any experience with either of these units?
>
> And last power requirements. I have a 65 so I will need to add a small
> battery. Does any one have any helpful suggestions on this?
>
>

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