[f-AA] ### Northern Route ?

[murp...@bellsouth.net]

One of my Tennessee flying buddies who is a CFI with lots of RV time has bought an RV-3 in

Seattle. He will be flying it back to Tennessee this weekend. Not being very familiar with the best

routes through the mountains can those of you with experience flying the Northern Route make

some suggestions??

He would appreciate all inputs from those that have made the trip.

John Murphy

Tennessee

[roger anderson]

Would that be Mike?

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[murp...@bellsouth.net]

Yes Roger it is Mike.

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[John Brooks]

His first hurdle is to cross the Cascade range. My assumption is it will
be a VFR fight. Staying over or near Interstate 90 through the mountain
range provides the most options with respect to a forced landing. If the
summit is weathered in there are two other alternates to consider.
Stampede Pass joins I90 approximately 15 sm east of the summit and is
reached by following a drainage in the foothills of the range approximately
20 sm south of where I90 begins to climb. Alternate two is the best for
weather and scenery, Columbia River Gorge. Follow the river east from
Portland, OR, however you will intersect the river approximately 30 sm east
of PDX.

Beyond the Cascade range following I90 will take him through the Rockies
via Missoula, MT (MSO). Following the Gorge and interstate will lead him
over Boise (BOI) and south of most of the rugged mountains in Idaho.

Seattle Class B airspace limits climbing eastward early, but if I can do it
in a C172 he can do it in an RV3. Flying around Spokane airspace is easy,
Boise is tight. Please do not cross these mountain ranges without a
survival kit and appropriate clothing. I live in NW Montana and we have
rain/snow forecast this week, winter is on it's way. Before I lived here I
flew in and around the Puget Sound for twenty years.

John/88M

> [Original Message]
> From: <murp...@bellsouth.net>
> To: <aer...@westmont.edu (Aeronca)>
> Date: 10/7/2008 5:19:10 PM

> Subject: [f-AA] ### Northern Route ?
>
> One of my Tennessee flying buddies who is a CFI with lots of RV time has
bought an RV-3 in
> Seattle. He will be flying it back to Tennessee this weekend. Not being
very familiar with the best
> routes through the mountains can those of you with experience flying the
Northern Route make
> some suggestions??
> He would appreciate all inputs from those that have made the trip.
> John Murphy
> Tennessee

[Mark McAtee]

Should he get by the Cascades and find himself in Boise, try the Jackson, Wyo route thru Casper (south to the Wind River Mts) to Nebraska and then straight on to the lowlands.   Or....Billings, Mt the Sheridan, then ND and on south.


 
 
 
Mark 


 
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[murp...@bellsouth.net]

John,

Your flight description is very complete and I have passed it on to the pilot.

Thanks,

John

-------------- Original message from "John Brooks" <asf...@earthlink.net>: --------------

> His first hurdle is to cross the Cascade range. My assumption is it will
> be a VFR fight. Staying over or near Interstate 90 through the mountain
> range provides the most options with respect to a forced landing. If the
> summit is weathered in there are two other alternates to consider.
> Stampede Pass joins I90 approximately 15 sm east of the summit and is
> reached by following a drainage in the foothills of the range approximately
> 20 sm south of where I90 begins to climb. Alternate two is the best for
> weather and scenery, Columbia River Gorge. Follow the river east from
> Portland, OR, however you will intersect the river approximately 30 sm east
> of PDX.
>
> Beyond the Cascade range following I90 will take him through the Rockies
> via Missoula, MT (MSO). Following the Gorge and interstate will lead him
> over Boise (BOI) and south of most of the rugged mountains in Idaho.
>
> Seattle Class B airspace limits climbing eastward early, but if I can do it
> in a C172 he can do it in an RV3. Flying around Spokane airspace is easy,
> Boise is tight. Please do not cross these mountain ranges without a
> survival kit and appropriate clothing. I live in NW Montana and we have
> rain/snow forecast this week, winter is on it's way. Before I lived here I
> flew in and around the Puget Sound for twenty years.
>
> John/88M
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From:

> > To:

[Richard Holcombe]

I have done the I-90 route about four times. It is probably the easiest and safest. Be careful leaving Missoula as the road that looks like I-90 isn't. I-90 sneaks through a pass to the East when you are just putting away your Flight Guide and following the big wide road south. The down side of this route is that there is still another half day of flying through really high country before you are out of the mountains.

Option two, in my book is prettier and quicker. From Sandpoint ID, leaving at dawn, follow US Rt 2 through to Flathead Lake, landing at Kalispell Downtown. After a quick fillup continue following Rt 2 through Marias Pass and you will be in Cut Bank, Montana before noon. This route is actually lower and can be flown without going over about 6500 feet. It is spectacular, but must be flown in the morning before any real wind kicks up.

You may not be comming this way again, take the time to enjoy the trip, and don't even think of messing with the weather through the mountains. It is a lot shorter if you can go streight over the top. In decent weather head for the lowest pass you see and clear it by 2,000 feet. Just don't think you are going to walk out if anything goes wrong.

Have a great trip and follow all the free advice

Richard

[murp...@bellsouth.net]

Richard,

Great suggestions. I will pass this on to the pilot.

John

-------------- Original message from "Richard Holcombe" <rhawley...@gmail.com>: --------------

[murp...@bellsouth.net]

Thanks to all who offered advice on the northern route from Seattle to Tennessee.

My friend, Mike, took off in the just bought RV-3 and headed over the Stampede Mtns. The weather at

the airport he landed on wasn't looking good so he returned west. (That airport got 2' of snow that night).

He then made his way south to Fresno and after an overnight went another 80 miles south and headed

east again. The cold front that was slowly moving east was a constant block to his progress. The trip took

from Sat, 11 Oct to Friday, 17 Oct. All the time chasing that front. His experiences along the way at various small airports is worth a book. From people giving their car to him; to offering their home; to buying

him meals; and just giving friendly support is a tribute to the flying community.His last hold up was at Dyersburg, TN where he hooked with two stagger wing Beech's headed to Tullahoma for the annual

celebration. (One was from Calif. and the other from Idaho)

They made one attempt east but returned to wait for better weather. Finally after thirteen hours and

seven days Mike arrived in Lewisburg, TN with a hugh but tired look on his face. A few minutes later the

two stagger wings passed over head.

Again thanks to all for the advice. (Mike's pictures of the mountains gave a good view of some of that rugged country one crosses coming east).

John Murphy

Tennessee

 

[John Brooks]

What a difference a day makes. Sounds like he has a good tale to recount
years from now. Happy he had a happy ending.

> [Original Message]
> From: <murp...@bellsouth.net>
> To: <aer...@westmont.edu>

> Cc: Mike Kellems <mikek...@bellsouth.net>
> Date: 10/19/2008 8:06:56 PM

> Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Northern Route
>

[roger anderson]

John,

 

I saw Mike and his new RV-3 at Moontown yesterday.  In fact, he propped me in the Chief as I got ready to head back to Shelbyville after the breakfast.  Nice RV.    roger

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Subject: Re: [f-AA] ### Northern Route

[Richard Holcombe]

Great trip and great judgement not following my advice on the northern route.

Richard