[f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

[Aeronca]

The 11AC-S Scout model was Aeronca's last attempt to sell some airplanes.  The Scout was really a generic Chief.  It had a Champ Nosebowl & Spinner - Did not have a rear 8 gallon Auxiliary tank - Did not come with wheel pants or a McDowell hand starter.  Did not have a woodgrain type finish on the panel & had a simple stripe down the side on the outside paint scheme.  It was really a Chief stripped down.  Most of them were built at the end of the 11 series production in 1947.  There was a real nice one on the cover of Vintage Airplane a few years ago.  It was an award winner at Oshkosh.  At the end - Aeronca would leave off or put what ever accessories you wanted if they could sell you an airplane........  The 11AC-S Scout.

 

 

Happy Holidays

Click on:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZCMvEW36s

 

 

 

 

 

Ray Johnson

11AC Chief

NC3469E

[Travis Gregory]

I have a Champ noes bowl and skull cap spinner on my 11BC. Was the flanged nose bowl and chubby spinner an option? I do have the 8 gallon aux tank.

 

I'd love to have the flanged nose bowl if anyone knows of one.

 

travis gregory

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From: Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com>
To: Aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:03:08 PM
Subject: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

[Travis Gregory]

For those of you using the Skytec starter with the Odyssey battery:

 

I'm sitting here with credit card in hand to order the starter and battery (yeah, I have the 12-F engine) but I don't know for sure what charger to order. Went on the web and found one called Odyssey Optimizer. What do you guys use?

 

travis gregory

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From: Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com>
To: Aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:03:08 PM
Subject: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

[Aeronca]

Travis,

 

    All of the 11AC, 11BC & 11CC Chiefs had the big spinner on them with the flanged nose bowl.  Only the 11AC-S Scout came from the factory with the Champ nose bowl & skull cap spinner.  Yours as well as many Chiefs have been changed over the years.  the 11BC however would have left the factory with the big spinner on it.  This allowed for the McDowell Starter gear to be placed behind the backplate on the big spinner.

 

    Interesting enough you could order a McDowell starter on your Champ as an option if you wanted to.  This meant it would have a Chief nose bowl and big spinner on it.  There used to be a 7AC Champ in Elwood, Indiana that we knew about that came right from the factory like that.  I understand that Aeronca did that to 7AC's that were known to go on floats also....  this way they had the hand starter on them......

 

    Aeronca was flexible with options on all of their airplanes.  They wanted to sell airplanes.  You could special order if you wanted to.

 

    Chief nose bowls can be hard to come by these days....

 

 

 

 

 

www.FlyInCruiseIn.com

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[Ian Harvie]

Ray, so that means if I wanted to get an aluminum nose bowl to replace
the heavy fiber glass one I have I'd have to get a Champ one.
If I did that would I still be able to use the big spinner and back
plate on my Chief or is the flange recessed too much? I don't have a
McDowell starter.

Ian

Aeronca wrote:
> */Travis,/*
> *//*
> */All of the 11AC, 11BC & 11CC Chiefs had the big spinner on them

> with the flanged nose bowl. Only the 11AC-S Scout came from the factory
> with the Champ nose bowl & skull cap spinner. Yours as well as many
> Chiefs have been changed over the years. the 11BC however would have
> left the factory with the big spinner on it. This allowed for the
> McDowell Starter gear to be placed behind the backplate on the big

> spinner./*
> *//*
> */ Interesting enough you could order a McDowell starter on your

> Champ as an option if you wanted to. This meant it would have a Chief
> nose bowl and big spinner on it. There used to be a 7AC Champ in
> Elwood, Indiana that we knew about that came right from the factory like
> that. I understand that Aeronca did that to 7AC's that were known to go

> on floats also.... this way they had the hand starter on them....../*
> *//*
> */Aeronca was flexible with options on all of their airplanes. They
> wanted to sell airplanes. You could special order if you wanted to./*
> *//*
> */Chief nose bowls can be hard to come by these days..../*
> *//*
> *//*
> *//*
> *//*
> *//*
> */www.FlyInCruiseIn.com <http://www.FlyInCruiseIn.com> /*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Travis Gregory <mailto:nc4...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:aer...@westmont.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2008 3:26 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

>
> I have a Champ noes bowl and skull cap spinner on my 11BC. Was the
> flanged nose bowl and chubby spinner an option? I do have the 8
> gallon aux tank.
>
> I'd love to have the flanged nose bowl if anyone knows of one.
>
> travis gregory
>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com <mailto:aer...@indy.rr.com>>
> *To:* Aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:aer...@westmont.edu>>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2008 12:03:08 PM
> *Subject:* [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
> */The 11AC-S Scout model was Aeronca's last attempt to sell some

> airplanes. The Scout was really a generic Chief. It had a Champ
> Nosebowl & Spinner - Did not have a rear 8 gallon Auxiliary tank -
> Did not come with wheel pants or a McDowell hand starter. Did not
> have a woodgrain type finish on the panel & had a simple stripe down
> the side on the outside paint scheme. It was really a Chief
> stripped down. Most of them were built at the end of the 11 series
> production in 1947. There was a real nice one on the cover of
> Vintage Airplane a few years ago. It was an award winner at
> Oshkosh. At the end - Aeronca would leave off or put what ever
> accessories you wanted if they could sell you an airplane........

> The 11AC-S Scout./*
>
>
>
> */Happy Holidays/*

>
> Click on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZCMvEW36s
>
>
>
>
>
> Ray Johnson
> 11AC Chief
> NC3469E
>
>

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[Mark PETERSON]

My sense of the Chief is that the spinner backplate goes a little behind the
face of the crankshaft.  Probably just enough to make a skull cap spinner the way
to go. 

Mark, who is having issues just getting a non-McDowell spinner on a Chief
nose bowl.



> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:15:23 +1100
> From: ianh...@internode.on.net
> To: aer...@westmont.edu
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

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[Aeronca]

Ian,

The Big Spinner & backplate will not fit the Champ Nose Bowl. You will
have to find an original Chief Nose Bowl to do what you want to do. It does
not matter if you have the McDowell starter or not. The Big spinner and
Chief flange just allows room for that. Probably a good metal GURU could
make up a new Chief nose bowl. However I don't believe anyone is making
them on the market right now. The real answer for you would be to find a
good Chief nose bowl.

Ray

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net>
To: <aer...@westmont.edu>

[john pehrson]

I use a deltran battery tender. It can also be used on motorcycle and jet-ski batteries. You can find them at www.pacificbattery.com  the model I use is 021-0128.....John P --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Travis Gregory <nc4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[j...@joea.com]

Make sure you get a charger designed for that style of battery.

Believe that these "maintenance free" batteries are AGM (absorbed glass
matt) and are charged differently from normal batteries.

Joe A

On 26 Dec 2008 at 16:12, john pehrson wrote:

>
> I use a deltran battery tender. It can also be used on motorcycle and jet-ski batteries. You can
> find them at www.pacificbattery.com the model I use is 021-0128.....John P
>
> --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Travis Gregory <nc4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Travis Gregory <nc4...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [f-AA] Odyssey battery 11-01945
> To: aer...@westmont.edu
> Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 12:38 PM
>
> For those of you using the Skytec starter with the Odyssey battery:
>
> I'm sitting here with credit card in hand to order the starter and battery (yeah, I have the 12-F
> engine) but I don't know for sure what charger to order. Went on the web and found one called
> Odyssey Optimizer. What do you guys use?
>
> travis gregory
>
>

> From: Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com>
> To: Aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:03:08 PM
> Subject: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
> The 11AC-S Scout model was Aeronca's last attempt to sell some airplanes. The Scout

> was really a generic Chief. It had a Champ Nosebowl &Spinner- Did not have a rear 8

[Travis Gregory]

Thank you John.

 

I found a charger on line for $110.00 but I also do RC and charge 12V dry cells with a 10 to 20 dollar wall wart charger which is the size of a tennis ball, has an indicator diode and shuts off always trouble free when the battery is full.

 

travis gregory

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From: john pehrson <champ...@yahoo.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 6:12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Odyssey battery 11-01945

[Mark PETERSON]

I do RC too and I have a C70 Passport Honda motorcycle with a 6 volt battery.  There is a really neat trickle charge 1.5 amp Wal Mart unit
that does both 6 and 12 volt batteries and has a nice gentle charge that automatically goes to a long term trickle charge when it's topped off.
For only $25 dollars or so, it's a wonderful Aeronca priced item that will do the trick for most of us who have a battery in the plane. It's working in
my garage right now.  For the 12 volt sealed gell cell, it's the RC wall battery about three times a year.

Seattle is still digging out of 12 to 24 inches of snow and it's really a SLOW thaw.

Mark

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:32:36 -0800
From: nc4...@yahoo.com
To: aer...@westmont.edu

[joer...@suddenlink.net]

Ian, Your post is a little unclear. Did your Chief previously have a big spinner on a Champ style nosebowl? Ray is right, the big Aeronca spinner won't work with a Champ style nosebowl as the flange on the backplate extends to the rear and would be an interference fit with the Champ nosebowl. However, and I don't know what was previously done to your cowling or what modifications you can make Down Under. I know of an Ercoupe (they came with large spinners similar to the Chief but with no depression in the nosebowl) that lost it's spinner during its life of shuffling from one prospective restorer to another. The gentleman in Maryland who does the spun aluminum spinners was contacted, and with his instructions for careful measurement of the distance from the propeller flange to the nosebowl, he fabricated a Chief style spinner and a propeller spacer of the appropriate thickness to provide clearance to the Ercoupe nosebowl. Of course longer prop bolts were necessary. Everything
had to be carefully measured to get sufficient thread engagement without bottoming the bolt threads. Why didn't he just get an Ercoupe spinner from Univair? The Chief spinner with a spacer was a whole lot cheaper and it still gave the Ercoupe look. I don't know how the legalities of this installation were addressed. Also this was done on a flanged crankshaft with a metal prop. I don't think I would do this on a tapered hub for fear of additional stresses on the hub. I am now wondering what an Ercoupe spinner would look like on a Champ nosebowl? I suspect one might fit as it wouldn't need the large hole in the nosebowl. Joe H.

---- Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Ray, so that means if I wanted to get an aluminum nose bowl to replace
> the heavy fiber glass one I have I'd have to get a Champ one.
> If I did that would I still be able to use the big spinner and back
> plate on my Chief or is the flange recessed too much? I don't have a
> McDowell starter.
>
> Ian

_______________________________________________

[Ian Harvie]

Thanks Ray, I better start looking, won't find one in Australia for
sure, but then neither would I find a Champ one but I suppose Wag Aero
or Univair have them at big bucks.

Ian

[Travis Gregory]

My Hobbico Torquemaster batteries are essentially the same battery as the Odyssey and I could not imagine why a charger had to be so expensive. I just don't want to ruin a $200 battery by using the wrong charger.

 

I'm delighted Seattle has snow. Several of my bicycle team live there and they often chide me about living in the snow belt. We ride Missouri River to Mississippi River in the Summer.

 

Thanks Mark

travis gregory

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From: Mark PETERSON <mrpet...@msn.com>
To: The Fearless Aeronca Aviators <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:16:19 PM

[Aeronca]

Ian,

I don't believe Univair or Wag Aero makes a Chief nose bowl.............
That is the reason you see so many Champ nose bowls on Chiefs........

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[Ian Harvie]

Yes, that's what I was getting at, but it seems a pity to do away with
my lovely spinner from Bob Carr.

Ian

[Aeronca]

Ian,

You have many friends on this list........... There might be a Chief
nose bowl in your future......... put the word out !!

Hang on to that Bob Carr Spinner.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Travis Gregory]

Ian and I are both on e-baeronca looking for nose bowls.

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From: Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:48:39 PM

[Ian Harvie]

Thanks, well lets make it official. I'm looking for a Chief nose bowl,
any condition. I have a friend who has had some metal work done by a
guru, he takes about a year to do anything but his work is great.

Ian

[j...@joea.com]

Hmmm, wonder who has any Chief McDowell nose bowls in their hangar...

Hmmm, wonder who does not have a Chief anymore...

Got any Jaguar parts to trade? :)

Joe A

[Ian Harvie]

Joe

Well I still have the radiator cap with very large Jaguar on it from my
1937 SS. Now the SS had a plain cap, no jag, but I had one for it and a
plain cap to put on when I parked anywhere in public. Sold it with the
plain cap. I'd never trade that.
I founded the Jaguar Car Club of Victoria. Have a look at,

http://www.jagvic.org.au/content.php?contentid=6

Some one is supposed to know where my old SS is in bits. Well after the
Chief is finished, then the Stinson, then my Land Rover- - well I'd
need another few lives to finish them all. (G)

Ian

[Travis Gregory]

Hmmm, are we talking, say a '64 XKE?

 

travis gregory

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From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:43:55 PM

[j...@joea.com]

1969 model. My Father bought the car new and its been in our family since
new.

Still have it and its 80% restored sitting in the garage. Should have it back on
the road in another 3-4 months.

Joe A

On 27 Dec 2008 at 5:54, Travis Gregory wrote:

>
> Hmmm, are we talking, say a '64 XKE?
>
> travis gregory
>
>

> From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
> To: aer...@westmont.edu
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:43:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
> Hmmm, wonder who has any Chief McDowell nose bowls in their hangar...
>
> Hmmm, wonder who does not have a Chief anymore...
>
> Got any Jaguar parts to trade? :)
>
> Joe A
>
> On 27 Dec 2008 at 14:08, Ian Harvie wrote:
>
> > Thanks, well lets make it official. I'm looking for a Chief nose bowl,
> > any condition. I have a friend who has had some metal work done by a
> > guru, he takes about a year to do anything but his work is great.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > Aeronca wrote:
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > You have many friends on this list........... There might be a Chief
> > > nose bowl in your future......... put the word out !!
> > >
> > > Hang on to that Bob Carr Spinner.

[Travis Gregory]

The guy who takes excellent care of my Subarus is big in British Leyland and probably has lots of connections. He's also a ( inactive ) private pilot. If I knew what you needed, I could check with him.

 

travis gregory

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From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu

Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:40:02 AM

[j...@joea.com]

Travis,

Actually needing something that no one can really help with. Am kinda like
the Poobah in that an extra set (or three) hands and several months of 40
hour days is what I need.

Am currently working on taxes and getting packed for heading out to work
tomorrow, so not enough hours in the day to get everything done!

Thanks for the offer anyway...

Joe

On 27 Dec 2008 at 7:03, Travis Gregory wrote:

>
> The guy who takes excellent care of my Subarus is big in British Leyland and probably has lots of
> connections. He's also a ( inactive ) private pilot. If I knew what you needed, I could check with
> him.
>
> travis gregory
>
>

> From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
> To: aer...@westmont.edu
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:40:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
> 1969 model. My Father bought the car new and its been in our family since
> new.
>
> Still have it and its 80% restored sitting in the garage. Should have it back on
> the road in another 3-4 months.
>
> Joe A
>
> On 27 Dec 2008 at 5:54, Travis Gregory wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmmm, are we talking, say a '64 XKE?
> >
> > travis gregory
> >
> >
> > From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
> > To: aer...@westmont.edu
> > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:43:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
> >
> > Hmmm, wonder who has any Chief McDowell nose bowls in their hangar...
> >
> > Hmmm, wonder who does not have a Chief anymore...
> >
> > Got any Jaguar parts to trade? :)
> >
> > Joe A

[Fred Steadman]

Wow! A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Fred Steadman
200 Lark Court
Irving, TX 75062
214 762 6376
fst...@mac.com

[Travis Gregory]

Thank you Mark Peterson. I admit I was doubtful that Wallyworld would have a charger that would do absorbed glass mat batteries such as the Odyssey but they did! I bought the one with a meter on it so it was a little more but still within an Aeronca pilot's budget. You and this forum saved me $70.00.

 

Thanks again

travis gregory

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From: Mark PETERSON <mrpet...@msn.com>

To: The Fearless Aeronca Aviators <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:16:19 PM

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Odyssey battery 11-01945

I do RC too and I have a C70 Passport Honda motorcycle with a 6 volt battery.  There is a really neat trickle charge 1.5 amp Wal Mart unit
that does both 6 and 12 volt batteries and has a nice gentle charge that automatically goes to a long term trickle charge when it's topped off.
For only $25 dollars or so, it's a wonderful Aeronca priced item that will do the trick for most of us who have a battery in the plane. It's working in

my garage right now..  For the 12 volt sealed gell cell, it's the RC wall battery about three times a year.

[j...@joea.com]

Everyone,

I have been in touch with Ian and we are talking about the possibility of
shipping my Chief McDowell nosebowl to him in Australia.

Anyone have a ballpark idea on the value of one these days? Mine is in fair
to good condition but does need some sheetmetal work where the engine tin
has damaged the nosebowl. As well it has some previous repairs that could
be done better, so this is not something that you are going to bolt on and fly,
but it could be done. Of the three nosebowls I have, this one is the best and
the others are pretty rough.

Would appreciate some input on its value. Want to be fair to Ian but really
do not know what this is worth.

Thx,

Joe A

On 26 Dec 2008 at 21:48, Aeronca wrote:

> Ian,
>
> You have many friends on this list........... There might be a Chief
> nose bowl in your future......... put the word out !!
>
> Hang on to that Bob Carr Spinner.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net>
> To: <aer...@westmont.edu>
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
>
> > Yes, that's what I was getting at, but it seems a pity to do away with
> > my lovely spinner from Bob Carr.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > Aeronca wrote:
> >> Ian,
> >>
> >> I don't believe Univair or Wag Aero makes a Chief nose
> >> bowl.............
> >> That is the reason you see so many Champ nose bowls on Chiefs........

_______________________________________________

[Jack Sarbry]

Jack  here up in cold / cold Winnipeg.

I own and and in the process of rebuilding my 1948 Aeronca Chief, ser. #219.

The data plate says it was built in the spring off 1948. I don"t know how much longer they

continued with the Chief line after that date. Does any one know. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Aeronca

To: Aeronca

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:03 PM

Subject: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

The 11AC-S Scout model was Aeronca's last attempt to sell some airplanes.  The Scout was really a generic Chief.  It had a Champ Nosebowl & Spinner - Did not have a rear 8 gallon Auxiliary tank - Did not come with wheel pants or a McDowell hand starter.  Did not have a woodgrain type finish on the panel & had a simple stripe down the side on the outside paint scheme.  It was really a Chief stripped down.  Most of them were built at the end of the 11 series production in 1947.  There was a real nice one on the cover of Vintage Airplane a few years ago.  It was an award winner at Oshkosh.  At the end - Aeronca would leave off or put what ever accessories you wanted if they could sell you an airplane........  The 11AC-S Scout.

 

 

Happy Holidays

Click on:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZCMvEW36s

 

 

 

 

 

Ray Johnson

11AC Chief

NC3469E

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[Plain Carl]

I sold  a fairly nice one a year or so back for $125 to someone unknown to me.  That was probably cheap, but at the time on one on the list was interested.  Interesting that it had hung on my wall since about '95 and I thought it would become a permanent ornament.

 

 

PC

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From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:26:08 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Chief McDowell nosebowl

Everyone,

I have been in touch with Ian and we are talking about the possibility of
shipping my Chief McDowell nosebowl to him in Australia.

Anyone have a ballpark idea on the value of one these days? Mine is in fair
to good condition but does need some sheetmetal work where the engine tin
has damaged the nosebowl. As well it has some previous repairs that could
be done better, so this is not something that you are going to bolt on and fly,
but it could be done. Of the three nosebowls I have, this one is the best and
the others are pretty rough.

Would appreciate some input on its value. Want to be fair to Ian but really
do not know what this is worth.

Thx,

Joe A

On 26 Dec 2008 at 21:48, Aeronca wrote:

> Ian,
>
>    You have many friends on this list...........  There might be a Chief
> nose bowl in your future.........  put the word out !!
>
>    Hang on to that Bob Carr Spinner.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net>
> To: <aer...@westmont.edu>
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>
>
> > Yes, that's what I was getting at, but it seems a pity to do away with
> > my lovely spinner from Bob Carr.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > Aeronca wrote:
> >> Ian,
> >>
> >>    I don't believe Univair or Wag Aero makes a Chief nose
> >> bowl.............
> >> That is the reason you see so many Champ nose bowls on Chiefs........

[Travis Gregory]

I don't know what they are worth but would you be willing to part with the next beat one also?

 

travis gregory

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From: "j...@joea.com" <j...@joea.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:26:08 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Chief McDowell nosebowl

[k...@bellsouth.net]

	Hi all, I am looking for a backing plate for my nose spinner,and hoping you guys might know where I can get one,its 10 inches in diameter,and its off my 1947 Cheif,I have tried looking at most aircraft places but without a part no# no one seems to know.. Best Regards......Mark N3358E

[Dale P. Jewett]

Mark,

 

Check with Univair for a backing plate for a Ercoupe with metal prop. After my backing plate cracked, I got one for my 1939 Stinson HW-75 that sounds about that size, and it fit my spinner perfectly. In fact, I presume that the C85-12F on my plane might have originally been on an Ercoupe along with an Ercoupe prop and spinner. My spinner seems to look almost exactly the same as the original spinner photos of that 1939 model.

 

You might want to see if Univair would send you the dimensions of their backing plate so you could compare it with yours. Be sure you DON'T tell Univair that is is for an Aeronca.

 

Just a slight possibility that it is the same spinner. I hope this helps.

 

Dale Jewett

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: k...@bellsouth.net

To: aer...@westmont.edu

[Aeronca]

Jack,

 

    Generally speaking the 11 series Chiefs were manufactured from late 1945 thru 1948.  Most 11AC's were 1946 & 1947.  Most 11BC's & 11CC's were 1947 & some in 1948.  Somewhere there is a manufacturing list that details this.  What model Chief is yours?  With a serial number of #219 & built in 1948, I presume it might be a 11BC or 11CC.  My Chief is a 11AC built in March of 1947.  It is serial number #1764.

 

A great site on 11 series Chiefs has been created by Mark Peterson.  Click on:  http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3287/

 

Ray Johnson

Marion, Indiana

11AC Chief

NC3469E

(1947) S/N 1764

 

 

 

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From: Jack Sarbry

To: aer...@westmont.edu

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

Jack  here up in cold / cold Winnipeg.

I own and and in the process of rebuilding my 1948 Aeronca Chief, ser. #219.

The data plate says it was built in the spring off 1948. I don"t know how much longer they

continued with the Chief line after that date. Does any one know. 

 

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[Travis Gregory]

My 11BC ser.# 110 was dated June 5, 1947.

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From: Aeronca <aer...@indy.rr.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:11:28 AM

Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

[Jody Wittmeyer]

Worth whatever you and Ian work out. They are made of un-obtanium though

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net>
>> To: <aer...@westmont.edu>
>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 9:40 PM

>> Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S
>>
>>

>> > Yes, that's what I was getting at, but it seems a pity to do away with
>> > my lovely spinner from Bob Carr.
>> >
>> > Ian
>> >
>> > Aeronca wrote:
>> >> Ian,
>> >>
>> >> I don't believe Univair or Wag Aero makes a Chief nose
>> >> bowl.............
>> >> That is the reason you see so many Champ nose bowls on Chiefs........
>

[roger anderson]

Several years ago the backing plate on my Chief's spinner cracked.  It was not an original.  I never was able to find a replacement for that spinner.  I ended up getting the Bob Carr spinner and backing plate as a replacement.  They're very nice.  The following has info on his.  Look down the page to parts and services.

 

  http://www.hangar9aeroworks.com/11ACLinks.html

 

.  Givwrite or Fax him for more information.  He supplies spinners for wood and metal propellers. 506 Heavitree Garth,  Severna Park, MD 21146,  (410)987-4310,  (410)761-1273 FAX.  e-maile Bob a call or write or Fax him for more information.  He supplies spinners for wood and metal propellers. 506 Heavitree Garth,  Severna Park, MD 21146,  (410)987-4310,  (410)761-1273 FAX.  e-mail .

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From: k...@bellsouth.net

To: aer...@westmont.edu

[Jack Sarbry]

Thanks for the info. Sorry I forgot. my chief is an 11CCSer# 219.

Jack 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Aeronca

To: aer...@westmont.edu

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:11 AM

Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

Jack,

 

    Generally speaking the 11 series Chiefs were manufactured from late 1945 thru 1948.  Most 11AC's were 1946 & 1947.  Most 11BC's & 11CC's were 1947 & some in 1948.  Somewhere there is a manufacturing list that details this.  What model Chief is yours?  With a serial number of #219 & built in 1948, I presume it might be a 11BC or 11CC.  My Chief is a 11AC built in March of 1947.  It is serial number #1764.

 

A great site on 11 series Chiefs has been created by Mark Peterson.  Click on:  http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3287/

 

Ray Johnson

Marion, Indiana

11AC Chief

NC3469E

(1947) S/N 1764

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Sarbry

To: aer...@westmont.edu

Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [f-AA] The Scout - 11AC-S

Jack  here up in cold / cold Winnipeg.

I own and and in the process of rebuilding my 1948 Aeronca Chief, ser. #219.

The data plate says it was built in the spring off 1948. I don"t know how much longer they

continued with the Chief line after that date. Does any one know. 

 

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[Vand...@aol.com]

 

 

 

Jack from Winnipeg writes:  I own and am in the process of rebuilding my 1948 Aeronca Chief, ser. #219.  The data plate says it was built in the spring off 1948.

Jack,  Your Chief's older cousin, Champ 7AC-219, is registered in the US as N81600 and is still flying from its comparably warm home in Durham NC.  It was built in the fall of 1945 and delivered new to its first owner in South Dakota in almost exactly 63 years ago in December 1945.

Dan vdMeer

 

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