Re: [f-AA] Aeronca Digest, Vol 96, Issue 23
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STEVEN BERG
Aug 18, 2015, 5:24:21 PM8/18/15
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is there an stc or 337 for an o-200 on a 47 Champ. ???
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1. 7fc back plate (Jonathon Woodhams)
2. Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler? (Don Harvie)
3. Re: Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler? (Rafael)
4. Re: L-2 B Struts (Rainbow Flying Service)
5. Re: 7fc back plate (Ian Harvie)
6. Re: John coming to Phoenix (John Rodkey)
7. Re: 7fc back plate (Jonathon Woodhams)
8. Re: 7fc back plate (dmcarr)
9. Warm weather oil (Willie and Mary Jo Langholz)
10. Re: Warm weather oil (Richard Murray)
11. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
12. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
13. Re: Warm weather oil (Richard Holcombe)
14. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
15. Re: Warm weather oil (danvdmeer)
16. Re: Warm weather oil (Mark Peterson)
17. Re: Warm weather oil (Willie and Mary Jo Langholz)
18. Re: Warm weather oil (Lucy Ooi)
19. Western wild fires (Paul M. Anton)
20. Re: Warm weather oil (ginny wilken)
21. Re: Warm weather oil (Rafael)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass. What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is? Thoughts?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:04:10 +1000
From: Don Harvie <donh...@yahoo.com.au>
To: f-AA List aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler?
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All,
A friend sent me this. I presume its the same event that Rafael posted pictures of.
Don H
Sent from my 'phone
<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Matthew Gray <matthe...@cdcbus.com.au> </div><div>Date:17/08/2015 5:25 PM (GMT+10:00) </div><div>To: Bret Cavanagh <br...@cavanagh.id.au>,David Rittie <david....@optusnet.com.au>,'Richard' <Ric...@Flycorp.com.au>,donh...@yahoo.com.au </div><div>Subject: Video of a microburst </div><div>
</div>Really interesting video if you've no seen it before
https://vimeo.com/135811823
Tucson Wet Microburst | August 8th, 2015
A time lapse of a strong thunderstorm that dropped a couple of wet microburst. One in particular was captured really well in the time lapse thanks to the sun peaking?
Watch now...
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:24:10 -0700
From: Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler?
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Breath taking
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Don Harvie <donh...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> A friend sent me this. I presume its the same event that Rafael posted pictures of.
>
> Don H
>
>
> Sent from my 'phone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matthew Gray
> Date:17/08/2015 5:25 PM (GMT+10:00)
> To: Bret Cavanagh ,David Rittie ,'Richard' ,donh...@yahoo.com.au
> Subject: Video of a microburst
>
> Really interesting video if you've no seen it before
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/135811823
>
>
> Tucson Wet Microburst | August 8th, 2015
> A time lapse of a strong thunderstorm that dropped a couple of wet microburst. One in particular was captured really well in the time lapse thanks to the sun peaking?
> Watch now...
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Matthew Gray
>
> Service Delivery Manager
>
> Foundry Road Depot
>
>
> Phone (02) 8603 3010
>
> Fax (02) 8889 7009
>
> Mobile 0411 505 521
>
> Address 29 Foundry Road, Seven Hills 2147
>
> Online www.cdcbus.com.au
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:09:34 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "Rainbow Flying Service" <ro...@qosi.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu (aer...@westmont.edu)"
<aer...@westmont.edu>, <bot...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] L-2 B Struts
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I have a brand new set of L-2 lift struts that I purchased from Wag Aero.
They were built by Safe Air repair before Wag Aero bought them. So I
presume that Wag Aero has drawings and fixtures to make them. My first
airplane was an L-2B which I wrecked. I am rebuilding it. I have all the
ribs built and new spars made. I also built tooling to make new spars. Are
they going to use wood leading edges? I have new 45degree birch plywood
skins.
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From: Rafael
Date: 8/17/2015 6:50:56 AM
To: Aeronca Aviators
Subject: [f-AA] L-2 B Struts
Local folks (KCNO) are restoring an L-2B and they need front struts. Anyone
knows where they can get or repair them?. Does Pete Plumb do those also?
Tks
Rafael
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:00:53 +1000
From: Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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No should be metal and strengthened. Get one from Ray Johnson
Ian
On 17/08/2015 4:35 AM, Jonathon Woodhams wrote:
> Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass. What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is? Thoughts?
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:01:16 -0700
From: John Rodkey <pooba...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] John coming to Phoenix
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I don't recognize Margarita as an Aeronca model, Joe.
On Sunday, August 16, 2015, <j...@joea.com> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> That's easy! My therapy is much easier and better than the real Doctors...
> I perscribe
> margarita's and everyone leaves happy! :)
>
> Joe A
>
>
> On 16 Aug 2015 at 11:51, Ben Higginbotham wrote:
>
> >
> > That's really cool Joe, but I have to ask did you get Dr. Phil to
> autograph that picture for you??
> > Ben
> > On Aug 16, 2015 11:32 AM, <j...@joea.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > We had a small meeting of Aeronca lovers last night!
> >
> > John Rodkey and Jeannie his wife were passing through Phoenix and I
> enticed them into a
> > bit if ice cream on their way back to California!! We even "talked
> Chief" for a bit! :)
> >
> > Great to see them and hope they had a great drive back home!
> >
> > Photo attached!!
> >
> > Joe A
> >
> >
> > On 15 Aug 2015 at 17:29, Rafael wrote:
> >
> > > I got to see them long enough to load the truck and off they went
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, j...@joea.com <javascript:;> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just missed them by a couple of hours. Todd did not tell me he
> was in town until late
> > that
> > > > afternoon and we were flying until 18:00.
> > > >
> > > > Joe A
> > > >
> > > >> On 15 Aug 2015 at 11:36, Rafael wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Todd and Patrick came from there yesterday same weather
> stories. THey stopped here
> > to get all the B25 parts I was storing for them and North they went
> > > >> --------------------------------------------
> > > >> On Sat, 8/15/15, j...@joea.com <javascript:;> <j...@joea.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [f-AA] Quick trip to Phoenix
> > > >> To: aer...@westmont.edu <javascript:;>, pooba...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > > >> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015, 10:49 AM
> > > >>
> > > >> Well John,
> > > >>
> > > >> Since you are coming already
> > > >> guess I should tell you about the 117 degree heat that we
> > > >> had
> > > >> yesterday. Today its going to be a cold
> > > >> front passing through and forcast is for only 115 so
> > > >> you should be fine! :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Is someone going to school over here? All of
> > > >> the universities are having "move in weekend"
> > > >> right now...
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me know what you guys are up to and hope we
> > > >> can get together!
> > > >>
> > > >> Joe A
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 14 Aug 2015 at 21:07, John Rodkey wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >> Jeanne and I will be driving from Santa Barbara to Phoenix
> > > >> tomorrow starting early in the morning,
> > > >>> and driving back to Santa Barbara with an
> > > >> empty U-Haul van on Sun day. Anyone want to meet
> > > >>> up while we are in Phoenix, or send
> > > >> something back to the LA or Santa Barbara area in this
> > > >> van?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> John (poobah) Rodkey - N9361E 11AC at
> > > >> Goleta
> >
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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Thanks, I probably should have added that this is an O-200 and has been
converted to a -CCM, though it seems you answered my question anyway.
Thanks!
On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 9:01:29 PM UTC-4, Ian Harvie wrote:
>
> No should be metal and strengthened. Get one from Ray Johnson
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> Ian
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:15:56 -0400
From: dmcarr <dmc...@theinter.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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Is the backplate fiberglass or carbon fiber? ?I know that there is a carbon fiber spinner and backplate available for the Cherokee as an STC and it torque just fine. ?We have 2 of them on trainers where I work.Dion CarrChamp N84746Geneseo, IL
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
Date: 08/16/2015 1:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass.? What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is??? Thoughts?
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:35:55 -0500
From: Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235
what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:39:22 -0400
From: Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I'm a fan pf single weight and from March to November keep 100 in the
kidney. Have a case of 65 for the Winter months.
An oil cooler makes a world of difference.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
> the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:48:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:51:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
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From: "Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:05:50 -0700
From: Richard Holcombe <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure
synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','11...@comcast.net');>>
> *To: *"Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aer...@westmont.edu');>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
>
> I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it.
> That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to
> Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at
> all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60
> wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think
> multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wjlan...@gmail.com');>>
> *To: *aer...@westmont.edu
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aer...@westmont.edu');>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
> *Subject: *[f-AA] Warm weather oil
>
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
> the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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Phillips agrees with you. (See below) I've always read that automotive oil begins to deteriorate at temps around 240. For that reason, with my motorcycles I've used synthetic oil, which doesn't begin to cook until much, much higher temps. Does aviation oil have qualities that lets it function at higher temps than automotive oil? roger
* I use synthetic engine oil in my car, is there any advantage to using synthetic engine oil in my aviation piston engine?
Full synthetics and synthetic blend motor oils are marketed heavily for use in automotive applications because of their ability to provide better performance at very low temperatures (often with 0W- or 5W- viscosities) and better oxidation stability at prolonged high temperatures in support of longer drain intervals promoted by automotive OEM's. It is our opinion that the advantages which make synthetic and synthetic blend engine oils so attractive in automotive and trucking applications, rarely apply to the needs of aviation piston engines using leaded fuel or specifying a SAE J1899 engine oil.
Mineral-based multiviscosity oils provide excellent cold-cranking and cold flow characteristics in line with what one might expect from a synthetic. On the other end of the temperature spectrum, most aviation piston engines operate in the 190 ? 210?F range, well below the capability of the oil. An additional important distinction to make between automotive and aviation applications is that aviation piston engines are serviced, rightfully so, at very short intervals which eliminates the need for extended drains sometimes associated with synthetic oils.
Synthetic oil is incapable of solubilizing engine contamination and combustion by-products (synthetic blends provide better solubility than full synthetics because they are mixed with mineral base oils) in aviation engines that run on 100LL fuel. Mineral-based formulations provide the best natural solubility characteristics which is why they tend to run cleaner than their synthetic blend counterparts.
For many pilots, it boils down to a simple economic evaluation that mineral formulations provide everything their engine requires without the unnecessary added cost and unrealized benefits of a synthetic or synthetic blend.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holcombe" <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson < 11...@comcast.net > wrote:
On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
From: "Roger Anderson" < 11...@comcast.net >
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" < aer...@westmont.edu >
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" < wjlan...@gmail.com >
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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From: danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com>
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I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000' at sea-level.
This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here also.
My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
Dan v
> On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:10:43 -0700
From: Mark Peterson <mrpet...@msn.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I use 80W all year around. Tried the multi and it was fine, but in Seattle, it's pretty mild.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=76408
^ ^ ^ Has a summary of Mike Busch's webinar on oil. The additives added to multiweights are because
they drip off surfaces quicker than single weight oil. So they need the proofing to avoid issues.
Single weight seems to be better.
"Cherish the Minnesota
State Fair. Wherever you find beauty and simplicity and truth, know that
there is a committee somewhere planning to improve it ? don't let them
do it."
? Garrison Keillor
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:14:46 +0000
From: 11...@comcast.net
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
Phillips agrees with you. (See below) I've always read that automotive oil begins to deteriorate at temps around 240. For that reason, with my motorcycles I've used synthetic oil, which doesn't begin to cook until much, much higher temps. Does aviation oil have qualities that lets it function at higher temps than automotive oil? roger
I use synthetic engine oil in my car, is there any advantage to using synthetic engine oil in my aviation piston engine?Full synthetics and synthetic blend motor oils are marketed heavily for use in automotive applications because of their ability to provide better performance at very low temperatures (often with 0W- or 5W- viscosities) and better oxidation stability at prolonged high temperatures in support of longer drain intervals promoted by automotive OEM's. It is our opinion that the advantages which make synthetic and synthetic blend engine oils so attractive in automotive and trucking applications, rarely apply to the needs of aviation piston engines using leaded fuel or specifying a SAE J1899 engine oil.Mineral-based multiviscosity oils provide excellent cold-cranking and cold flow characteristics in line with what one might expect from a synthetic. On the other end of the temperature spectrum, most aviation piston engines operate in the 190 ? 210?F range, well belo
w the ca
pability of the oil. An additional important distinction to make between automotive and aviation applications is that aviation piston engines are serviced, rightfully so, at very short intervals which eliminates the need for extended drains sometimes associated with synthetic oils.Synthetic oil is incapable of solubilizing engine contamination and combustion by-products (synthetic blends provide better solubility than full synthetics because they are mixed with mineral base oils) in aviation engines that run on 100LL fuel. Mineral-based formulations provide the best natural solubility characteristics which is why they tend to run cleaner than their synthetic blend counterparts.For many pilots, it boils down to a simple economic evaluation that mineral formulations provide everything their engine requires without the unnecessary added cost and unrealized benefits of a synthetic or synthetic blend.
From: "Richard Holcombe" <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net> wrote:
On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
From: "Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil? I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:14:41 -0500
From: Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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It was working hard as I had a stiff head wind and had to run at 2500 rpm
to maintain 70 mph..... any less and I think I would have been going
backward. we did have a density alt of 4200 as well. Just makes me nervous
when it runs that warm.
Thanks for the input. I may go back to using straight 100 and see what
happens
On another note , this was the first time up with the new prop at 40" (book
says a could go to 38 but i went to 40 , from 44) I now reach 2600 rpm if I
want at straight and level flight.
Was hard to tell but it seemed to help as well on take off but it was
really hot too
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:22 AM, danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps
> at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the
> hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the
> ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer
> temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000'
> at sea-level.
> This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in
> the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been
> using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and
> sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here
> also.
> My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
> Dan v
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
> wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> > I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60
> and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
> >
> > Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
> >
> > Willie
> > _______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:25:19 -0400
From: Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it
gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
Lucy
N4009B
"Rudolph"
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was working hard as I had a stiff head wind and had to run at 2500 rpm
> to maintain 70 mph..... any less and I think I would have been going
> backward. we did have a density alt of 4200 as well. Just makes me nervous
> when it runs that warm.
>
> Thanks for the input. I may go back to using straight 100 and see what
> happens
>
> On another note , this was the first time up with the new prop at 40"
> (book says a could go to 38 but i went to 40 , from 44) I now reach 2600
> rpm if I want at straight and level flight.
> Was hard to tell but it seemed to help as well on take off but it was
> really hot too
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:22 AM, danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps
>> at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the
>> hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the
>> ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer
>> temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000'
>> at sea-level.
>> This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in
>> the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been
>> using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and
>> sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here
>> also.
>> My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
>> Dan v
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
>> wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
>> o-235 what are you using for oil?
>> > I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60
>> and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>> >
>> > Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>> >
>> > Willie
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Aeronca mailing list
>> > Aer...@westmont.edu
>> > http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:18:45 -0700
From: "Paul M. Anton" <pma...@tds.net>
To: "Aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Western wild fires
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We just returned to AZ from nearly a month in Tacoma, WA. Our route took us
I-90 to Yakima to I-84 Boise ID then eastern NV south. As soon as we hit
I-84 we encountered smoke which at times was thick enough to make for IFR
conditions.
We drive by miles and miles of burned and smoking land. The smoke was with
us until we were close to Las Vegas. It seems like the entire West is
burning. L
It's good to be back to warm and sunny AZ.
Paul
Salome, AZ
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:42:09 -0700
From: ginny wilken <gwi...@fastmail.fm>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I?m flying the Champ very little - like not at all, these days - but I run straight 80 with Camguard in it. It?s hangared, attached to a house, so stays warm. In my big engine I run Shell 100+ AND Camguard.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
> On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
>
> Lucy
> N4009B
> "Rudolph"
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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and no MMO???????
From: ginny wilken <gwi...@fastmail.fm>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I?m flying the Champ very little - like not at all, these days - but I run straight 80 with Camguard in it. It?s hangared, attached to a house, so stays warm. In my big engine I run Shell 100+ AND Camguard.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
LucyN4009B"Rudolph"
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4. Re: L-2 B Struts (Rainbow Flying Service)
5. Re: 7fc back plate (Ian Harvie)
6. Re: John coming to Phoenix (John Rodkey)
7. Re: 7fc back plate (Jonathon Woodhams)
8. Re: 7fc back plate (dmcarr)
9. Warm weather oil (Willie and Mary Jo Langholz)
10. Re: Warm weather oil (Richard Murray)
11. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
12. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
13. Re: Warm weather oil (Richard Holcombe)
14. Re: Warm weather oil (Roger Anderson)
15. Re: Warm weather oil (danvdmeer)
16. Re: Warm weather oil (Mark Peterson)
17. Re: Warm weather oil (Willie and Mary Jo Langholz)
18. Re: Warm weather oil (Lucy Ooi)
19. Western wild fires (Paul M. Anton)
20. Re: Warm weather oil (ginny wilken)
21. Re: Warm weather oil (Rafael)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
Message-ID: <c7c6a5db-e8e3-470d...@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass. What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is? Thoughts?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:04:10 +1000
From: Don Harvie <donh...@yahoo.com.au>
To: f-AA List aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler?
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All,
A friend sent me this. I presume its the same event that Rafael posted pictures of.
Don H
Sent from my 'phone
<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Matthew Gray <matthe...@cdcbus.com.au> </div><div>Date:17/08/2015 5:25 PM (GMT+10:00) </div><div>To: Bret Cavanagh <br...@cavanagh.id.au>,David Rittie <david....@optusnet.com.au>,'Richard' <Ric...@Flycorp.com.au>,donh...@yahoo.com.au </div><div>Subject: Video of a microburst </div><div>
</div>Really interesting video if you've no seen it before
https://vimeo.com/135811823
Tucson Wet Microburst | August 8th, 2015
A time lapse of a strong thunderstorm that dropped a couple of wet microburst. One in particular was captured really well in the time lapse thanks to the sun peaking?
Watch now...
Kind regards,
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:24:10 -0700
From: Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fwd: Video of a microburst Chandler?
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Breath taking
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Don Harvie <donh...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> A friend sent me this. I presume its the same event that Rafael posted pictures of.
>
> Don H
>
>
> Sent from my 'phone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matthew Gray
> Date:17/08/2015 5:25 PM (GMT+10:00)
> To: Bret Cavanagh ,David Rittie ,'Richard' ,donh...@yahoo.com.au
> Subject: Video of a microburst
>
> Really interesting video if you've no seen it before
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/135811823
>
>
> Tucson Wet Microburst | August 8th, 2015
> A time lapse of a strong thunderstorm that dropped a couple of wet microburst. One in particular was captured really well in the time lapse thanks to the sun peaking?
> Watch now...
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Matthew Gray
>
> Service Delivery Manager
>
> Foundry Road Depot
>
>
> Phone (02) 8603 3010
>
> Fax (02) 8889 7009
>
> Mobile 0411 505 521
>
> Address 29 Foundry Road, Seven Hills 2147
>
> Online www.cdcbus.com.au
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:09:34 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "Rainbow Flying Service" <ro...@qosi.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu (aer...@westmont.edu)"
<aer...@westmont.edu>, <bot...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] L-2 B Struts
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I have a brand new set of L-2 lift struts that I purchased from Wag Aero.
They were built by Safe Air repair before Wag Aero bought them. So I
presume that Wag Aero has drawings and fixtures to make them. My first
airplane was an L-2B which I wrecked. I am rebuilding it. I have all the
ribs built and new spars made. I also built tooling to make new spars. Are
they going to use wood leading edges? I have new 45degree birch plywood
skins.
-------Original Message-------
From: Rafael
Date: 8/17/2015 6:50:56 AM
To: Aeronca Aviators
Subject: [f-AA] L-2 B Struts
Local folks (KCNO) are restoring an L-2B and they need front struts. Anyone
knows where they can get or repair them?. Does Pete Plumb do those also?
Tks
Rafael
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:00:53 +1000
From: Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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No should be metal and strengthened. Get one from Ray Johnson
Ian
On 17/08/2015 4:35 AM, Jonathon Woodhams wrote:
> Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass. What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is? Thoughts?
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:01:16 -0700
From: John Rodkey <pooba...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] John coming to Phoenix
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I don't recognize Margarita as an Aeronca model, Joe.
On Sunday, August 16, 2015, <j...@joea.com> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> That's easy! My therapy is much easier and better than the real Doctors...
> I perscribe
> margarita's and everyone leaves happy! :)
>
> Joe A
>
>
> On 16 Aug 2015 at 11:51, Ben Higginbotham wrote:
>
> >
> > That's really cool Joe, but I have to ask did you get Dr. Phil to
> autograph that picture for you??
> > Ben
> > On Aug 16, 2015 11:32 AM, <j...@joea.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > We had a small meeting of Aeronca lovers last night!
> >
> > John Rodkey and Jeannie his wife were passing through Phoenix and I
> enticed them into a
> > bit if ice cream on their way back to California!! We even "talked
> Chief" for a bit! :)
> >
> > Great to see them and hope they had a great drive back home!
> >
> > Photo attached!!
> >
> > Joe A
> >
> >
> > On 15 Aug 2015 at 17:29, Rafael wrote:
> >
> > > I got to see them long enough to load the truck and off they went
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, j...@joea.com <javascript:;> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just missed them by a couple of hours. Todd did not tell me he
> was in town until late
> > that
> > > > afternoon and we were flying until 18:00.
> > > >
> > > > Joe A
> > > >
> > > >> On 15 Aug 2015 at 11:36, Rafael wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Todd and Patrick came from there yesterday same weather
> stories. THey stopped here
> > to get all the B25 parts I was storing for them and North they went
> > > >> --------------------------------------------
> > > >> On Sat, 8/15/15, j...@joea.com <javascript:;> <j...@joea.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [f-AA] Quick trip to Phoenix
> > > >> To: aer...@westmont.edu <javascript:;>, pooba...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > > >> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015, 10:49 AM
> > > >>
> > > >> Well John,
> > > >>
> > > >> Since you are coming already
> > > >> guess I should tell you about the 117 degree heat that we
> > > >> had
> > > >> yesterday. Today its going to be a cold
> > > >> front passing through and forcast is for only 115 so
> > > >> you should be fine! :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Is someone going to school over here? All of
> > > >> the universities are having "move in weekend"
> > > >> right now...
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me know what you guys are up to and hope we
> > > >> can get together!
> > > >>
> > > >> Joe A
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 14 Aug 2015 at 21:07, John Rodkey wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >> Jeanne and I will be driving from Santa Barbara to Phoenix
> > > >> tomorrow starting early in the morning,
> > > >>> and driving back to Santa Barbara with an
> > > >> empty U-Haul van on Sun day. Anyone want to meet
> > > >>> up while we are in Phoenix, or send
> > > >> something back to the LA or Santa Barbara area in this
> > > >> van?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> John (poobah) Rodkey - N9361E 11AC at
> > > >> Goleta
> >
> > The following section of this message contains a file attachment
> > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format.
> > If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system,
> > you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer.
> > If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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Thanks, I probably should have added that this is an O-200 and has been
converted to a -CCM, though it seems you answered my question anyway.
Thanks!
On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 9:01:29 PM UTC-4, Ian Harvie wrote:
>
> No should be metal and strengthened. Get one from Ray Johnson
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> Ian
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:15:56 -0400
From: dmcarr <dmc...@theinter.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
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Is the backplate fiberglass or carbon fiber? ?I know that there is a carbon fiber spinner and backplate available for the Cherokee as an STC and it torque just fine. ?We have 2 of them on trainers where I work.Dion CarrChamp N84746Geneseo, IL
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-------- Original message --------
From: Jonathon Woodhams <aero...@gmail.com>
Date: 08/16/2015 1:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [f-AA] 7fc back plate
Looking at a 7fc with a metal prop and the spinner back plate is fiber glass.? What should be on it as it doesn't seem like it would be possible to torque it accurately with fiberglass in the middle. Or is this just the way it is??? Thoughts?
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:35:55 -0500
From: Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235
what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:39:22 -0400
From: Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I'm a fan pf single weight and from March to November keep 100 in the
kidney. Have a case of 65 for the Winter months.
An oil cooler makes a world of difference.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
> the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:48:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:51:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:05:50 -0700
From: Richard Holcombe <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure
synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','11...@comcast.net');>>
> *To: *"Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aer...@westmont.edu');>>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
>
> I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it.
> That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to
> Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at
> all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60
> wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think
> multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wjlan...@gmail.com');>>
> *To: *aer...@westmont.edu
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aer...@westmont.edu');>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
> *Subject: *[f-AA] Warm weather oil
>
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and
> the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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Phillips agrees with you. (See below) I've always read that automotive oil begins to deteriorate at temps around 240. For that reason, with my motorcycles I've used synthetic oil, which doesn't begin to cook until much, much higher temps. Does aviation oil have qualities that lets it function at higher temps than automotive oil? roger
* I use synthetic engine oil in my car, is there any advantage to using synthetic engine oil in my aviation piston engine?
Full synthetics and synthetic blend motor oils are marketed heavily for use in automotive applications because of their ability to provide better performance at very low temperatures (often with 0W- or 5W- viscosities) and better oxidation stability at prolonged high temperatures in support of longer drain intervals promoted by automotive OEM's. It is our opinion that the advantages which make synthetic and synthetic blend engine oils so attractive in automotive and trucking applications, rarely apply to the needs of aviation piston engines using leaded fuel or specifying a SAE J1899 engine oil.
Mineral-based multiviscosity oils provide excellent cold-cranking and cold flow characteristics in line with what one might expect from a synthetic. On the other end of the temperature spectrum, most aviation piston engines operate in the 190 ? 210?F range, well below the capability of the oil. An additional important distinction to make between automotive and aviation applications is that aviation piston engines are serviced, rightfully so, at very short intervals which eliminates the need for extended drains sometimes associated with synthetic oils.
Synthetic oil is incapable of solubilizing engine contamination and combustion by-products (synthetic blends provide better solubility than full synthetics because they are mixed with mineral base oils) in aviation engines that run on 100LL fuel. Mineral-based formulations provide the best natural solubility characteristics which is why they tend to run cleaner than their synthetic blend counterparts.
For many pilots, it boils down to a simple economic evaluation that mineral formulations provide everything their engine requires without the unnecessary added cost and unrealized benefits of a synthetic or synthetic blend.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holcombe" <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson < 11...@comcast.net > wrote:
On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
From: "Roger Anderson" < 11...@comcast.net >
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" < aer...@westmont.edu >
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" < wjlan...@gmail.com >
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:22:56 -0400
From: danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000' at sea-level.
This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here also.
My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
Dan v
> On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil?
> I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>
> Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>
> Willie
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:10:43 -0700
From: Mark Peterson <mrpet...@msn.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
Message-ID: <BLU173-W358D82152...@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
I use 80W all year around. Tried the multi and it was fine, but in Seattle, it's pretty mild.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=76408
^ ^ ^ Has a summary of Mike Busch's webinar on oil. The additives added to multiweights are because
they drip off surfaces quicker than single weight oil. So they need the proofing to avoid issues.
Single weight seems to be better.
"Cherish the Minnesota
State Fair. Wherever you find beauty and simplicity and truth, know that
there is a committee somewhere planning to improve it ? don't let them
do it."
? Garrison Keillor
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:14:46 +0000
From: 11...@comcast.net
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
Phillips agrees with you. (See below) I've always read that automotive oil begins to deteriorate at temps around 240. For that reason, with my motorcycles I've used synthetic oil, which doesn't begin to cook until much, much higher temps. Does aviation oil have qualities that lets it function at higher temps than automotive oil? roger
I use synthetic engine oil in my car, is there any advantage to using synthetic engine oil in my aviation piston engine?Full synthetics and synthetic blend motor oils are marketed heavily for use in automotive applications because of their ability to provide better performance at very low temperatures (often with 0W- or 5W- viscosities) and better oxidation stability at prolonged high temperatures in support of longer drain intervals promoted by automotive OEM's. It is our opinion that the advantages which make synthetic and synthetic blend engine oils so attractive in automotive and trucking applications, rarely apply to the needs of aviation piston engines using leaded fuel or specifying a SAE J1899 engine oil.Mineral-based multiviscosity oils provide excellent cold-cranking and cold flow characteristics in line with what one might expect from a synthetic. On the other end of the temperature spectrum, most aviation piston engines operate in the 190 ? 210?F range, well belo
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pability of the oil. An additional important distinction to make between automotive and aviation applications is that aviation piston engines are serviced, rightfully so, at very short intervals which eliminates the need for extended drains sometimes associated with synthetic oils.Synthetic oil is incapable of solubilizing engine contamination and combustion by-products (synthetic blends provide better solubility than full synthetics because they are mixed with mineral base oils) in aviation engines that run on 100LL fuel. Mineral-based formulations provide the best natural solubility characteristics which is why they tend to run cleaner than their synthetic blend counterparts.For many pilots, it boils down to a simple economic evaluation that mineral formulations provide everything their engine requires without the unnecessary added cost and unrealized benefits of a synthetic or synthetic blend.
From: "Richard Holcombe" <rhawley...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've read semi-synthetics have better anti corrosion abilities than pure synthetics.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Roger Anderson <11...@comcast.net> wrote:
On the oil topic, are there any synthetics approved for our use? roger
From: "Roger Anderson" <11...@comcast.net>
To: "Aeronca List, aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48:46 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I've always used XC 20W50 in my A65. It was being used when I got it. That was 1000 hours ago. One summer a few years ago, I did switch to Aeroshell 100 (50 wt) just to see. I did not notice any difference at all. I went back to the 20W50 and stayed there. You should be getting 60 wt protection with your oil at the high temp end of of it. I don't think multi or not will affect oil temp really. My opinion. roger
From: "Willie and Mary Jo Langholz" <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:55 AM
Subject: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or o-235 what are you using for oil? I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60 and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:14:41 -0500
From: Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <wjlan...@gmail.com>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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It was working hard as I had a stiff head wind and had to run at 2500 rpm
to maintain 70 mph..... any less and I think I would have been going
backward. we did have a density alt of 4200 as well. Just makes me nervous
when it runs that warm.
Thanks for the input. I may go back to using straight 100 and see what
happens
On another note , this was the first time up with the new prop at 40" (book
says a could go to 38 but i went to 40 , from 44) I now reach 2600 rpm if I
want at straight and level flight.
Was hard to tell but it seemed to help as well on take off but it was
really hot too
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:22 AM, danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps
> at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the
> hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the
> ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer
> temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000'
> at sea-level.
> This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in
> the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been
> using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and
> sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here
> also.
> My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
> Dan v
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
> wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
> o-235 what are you using for oil?
> > I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60
> and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
> >
> > Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
> >
> > Willie
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:25:19 -0400
From: Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it
gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
Lucy
N4009B
"Rudolph"
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was working hard as I had a stiff head wind and had to run at 2500 rpm
> to maintain 70 mph..... any less and I think I would have been going
> backward. we did have a density alt of 4200 as well. Just makes me nervous
> when it runs that warm.
>
> Thanks for the input. I may go back to using straight 100 and see what
> happens
>
> On another note , this was the first time up with the new prop at 40"
> (book says a could go to 38 but i went to 40 , from 44) I now reach 2600
> rpm if I want at straight and level flight.
> Was hard to tell but it seemed to help as well on take off but it was
> really hot too
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:22 AM, danvdmeer <danv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I use AeroShell 100 Plus here in St Petersburg FL. I'm told by Shell reps
>> at SnF that it is more protective against internal engine corrosion in the
>> hot humid salty air on the Gulf Coast. The oil temp stays at about the
>> ambient temperature plus 100 degrees throughout the year. Average summer
>> temps are in the high 80s and low 90s. And density altitudes are near 2000'
>> at sea-level.
>> This summer I've been in central North Carolina where the temps have in
>> the mid to upper 90s and frequently over 100 on the airport. I've been
>> using Phillips 20-50W here because I have a source that buys it in bulk and
>> sells me a quart an his cost. Oil temps have been ambient plus 100 here
>> also.
>> My engine is an O-200 with about 100 hours since major overhaul.
>> Dan v
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 09:35, Willie and Mary Jo Langholz <
>> wjlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > For those that fly the Aeronca in the southern states with a o-200 or
>> o-235 what are you using for oil?
>> > I was up yesterday afternoon 98 degrees on the ground with X/C 25-60
>> and the temp went right up to the 230 mark.
>> >
>> > Should I switch back to a single heavy weight oil down here in Texas?
>> >
>> > Willie
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Aeronca mailing list
>> > Aer...@westmont.edu
>> > http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
>> _______________________________________________
>> Aeronca mailing list
>> Aer...@westmont.edu
>> http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:18:45 -0700
From: "Paul M. Anton" <pma...@tds.net>
To: "Aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Western wild fires
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We just returned to AZ from nearly a month in Tacoma, WA. Our route took us
I-90 to Yakima to I-84 Boise ID then eastern NV south. As soon as we hit
I-84 we encountered smoke which at times was thick enough to make for IFR
conditions.
We drive by miles and miles of burned and smoking land. The smoke was with
us until we were close to Las Vegas. It seems like the entire West is
burning. L
It's good to be back to warm and sunny AZ.
Paul
Salome, AZ
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:42:09 -0700
From: ginny wilken <gwi...@fastmail.fm>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
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I?m flying the Champ very little - like not at all, these days - but I run straight 80 with Camguard in it. It?s hangared, attached to a house, so stays warm. In my big engine I run Shell 100+ AND Camguard.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
> On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
>
> Lucy
> N4009B
> "Rudolph"
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
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and no MMO???????
From: ginny wilken <gwi...@fastmail.fm>
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Warm weather oil
I?m flying the Champ very little - like not at all, these days - but I run straight 80 with Camguard in it. It?s hangared, attached to a house, so stays warm. In my big engine I run Shell 100+ AND Camguard.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Lucy Ooi <ooi....@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Aeroshell 100plus in my 235 in VA, and switch to a lighter oil if it gets cold in the winter. Seems to be working pretty well.
LucyN4009B"Rudolph"
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Colle Wagner has the Buz Wagner STC available to do the O-200 installation in the 7AC
SEE: f-AA topic
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Take a peek at this:
http://johnpropst.yolasite.com/resources/Aeronca%20Aircraft%20Conversions%20rev%208.pdf
John Propst has written a series of outstanding documents regarding Aeroncas and put them on his website. They are all gems. I'm sure he would answer your specific questions. You can reach him through his site.
Good luck, Dan v
http://johnpropst.yolasite.com/resources/Aeronca%20Aircraft%20Conversions%20rev%208.pdf
John Propst has written a series of outstanding documents regarding Aeroncas and put them on his website. They are all gems. I'm sure he would answer your specific questions. You can reach him through his site.
Good luck, Dan v
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