[f-AA] Fiberglass repair

[Rafael]

Well 89 F here is So Cal, so much for rain and so much for winter ugh!!. So out of frustration I decided to removed the brushed dripping coat of pain in my fiberglass wheel pants (and 4 more bellow that one). Now there are some holes for the home made brackets that someone did put on it. Of course the hole do not match the original Aeronca brackets (that I have to make) so I want to cover the holes and make them go away. Really no experience with fiberglass(yet), what s the best way to cover them and make it pretty?
Tks
Rafael
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[kboat...@comcast.net]

Here's a good *general* thread on VAF:

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=dan+fiberglass

In your case you should probably scarf in new layers of cloth, sand to final
shape, and redrill your attachment holes. Then fill, finish, and paint.

If you've ever finished sheetrock, it'll come in as a handy skill.
Ultimately fiberglass and sheetrock are the same. You're never finished, you
just reach a point where you quit.

[Rafael]

Thanks!!
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On Sat, 2/14/15, kboat...@comcast.net <kboat...@comcast.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2015, 7:49 PM

[Ian Harvie]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is sheetrock?

Ian

On 15/02/2015 2:49 PM, kboat...@comcast.net wrote:
> Here's a good *general* thread on VAF:
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=dan+fiberglass
>
>
> In your case you should probably scarf in new layers of cloth, sand to
> final shape, and redrill your attachment holes. Then fill, finish,
> and paint.
>
> If you've ever finished sheetrock, it'll come in as a handy skill.
> Ultimately fiberglass and sheetrock are the same. You're never
> finished, you just reach a point where you quit.
>

[Richard Murray]

Plasterboard some refer to it as. Drywall is another popular name.

mobile from the Galaxy S4

[Ian Harvie]

OK Gyprock, hard to liken it to fiberglass work though. (Doesn't help
having my spell check on English (US)though)
Ian

On 15/02/2015 9:55 PM, Richard Murray wrote:
>
> Plasterboard some refer to it as. Drywall is another popular name.
>
> mobile from the Galaxy S4
>
> On Feb 15, 2015 5:48 AM, "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net

> <mailto:ianh...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but what is sheetrock?
>
> Ian
>
> On 15/02/2015 2:49 PM, kboat...@comcast.net

> <mailto:kboat...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Here's a good *general* thread on VAF:
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=dan+fiberglass
>
>
> In your case you should probably scarf in new layers of cloth,
> sand to final shape, and redrill your attachment holes. Then
> fill, finish, and paint.
>
> If you've ever finished sheetrock, it'll come in as a handy
> skill. Ultimately fiberglass and sheetrock are the same.
> You're never finished, you just reach a point where you quit.
>
>
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[Richard Murray]

I thought the analogy of trying to finish fiberglass or sheetrock-drywall-gyprock-plasterboard-gypsum board was on the money. You just finally get tired and quit. Having worked with both products I related to what Kyle said.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net> wrote:

OK Gyprock, hard to liken it to fiberglass work though. (Doesn't help having my spell check on English (US)though)
Ian
On 15/02/2015 9:55 PM, Richard Murray wrote:

Plasterboard some refer to it as. Drywall is another popular name.

mobile from the Galaxy S4

On Feb 15, 2015 5:48 AM, "Ian Harvie" <ianh...@internode.on.net <mailto:ianharvie@internode.on.net>> wrote:

    Excuse my ignorance, but what is sheetrock?

    Ian

    On 15/02/2015 2:49 PM, kboat...@comcast.net

    <mailto:kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:

        Here's a good *general* thread on VAF:

        http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=dan+fiberglass


        In your case you should probably scarf in new layers of cloth,
        sand to final shape, and redrill your attachment holes.  Then
        fill, finish, and paint.

        If you've ever finished sheetrock, it'll come in as a handy
        skill. Ultimately fiberglass and sheetrock are the same.
        You're never finished, you just reach a point where you quit.


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    Aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:Aer...@westmont.edu>
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[Ian Harvie]

My wheel pants are fiber glass, and I've had to do a few repairs,
Actually my top and bottom engine cowls are fiber glass as well, so if a
mug like me can fix them I reckon Rafael will have no problems.

Ian

On 15/02/2015 10:17 PM, Richard Murray wrote:
> I thought the analogy of trying to finish fiberglass or
> sheetrock-drywall-gyprock-plasterboard-gypsum board was on the money.
> You just finally get tired and quit. Having worked with both products
> I related to what Kyle said.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Ian Harvie
> <ianh...@internode.on.net <mailto:ianh...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>
> OK Gyprock, hard to liken it to fiberglass work though. (Doesn't
> help having my spell check on English (US)though)
> Ian
> On 15/02/2015 9:55 PM, Richard Murray wrote:
>
>
> Plasterboard some refer to it as. Drywall is another popular name.
>
> mobile from the Galaxy S4
>
> On Feb 15, 2015 5:48 AM, "Ian Harvie"
> <ianh...@internode.on.net

> <mailto:ianh...@internode.on.net>
> <mailto:ianh...@internode.on.net

> <mailto:ianh...@internode.on.net>>> wrote:
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but what is sheetrock?
>
> Ian
>
> On 15/02/2015 2:49 PM, kboat...@comcast.net

> <mailto:kboat...@comcast.net>
> <mailto:kboat...@comcast.net

> <mailto:kboat...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Here's a good *general* thread on VAF:
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=dan+fiberglass
>
>
> In your case you should probably scarf in new layers
> of cloth,
> sand to final shape, and redrill your attachment
> holes. Then
> fill, finish, and paint.
>
> If you've ever finished sheetrock, it'll come in as a
> handy
> skill. Ultimately fiberglass and sheetrock are the same.
> You're never finished, you just reach a point where
> you quit.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Aeronca mailing list
> Aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:Aer...@westmont.edu>

> <mailto:Aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:Aer...@westmont.edu>>

> http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
>
>
>
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> Aer...@westmont.edu <mailto:Aer...@westmont.edu>

[harveybrock]

Rafael,

    I have a remarkable talent when it comes to fiberglass work. I can confine myself to a 3 by 3 foot space when I apply resin and somehow everything in the entire shop gets sticky.

   I'm going to Fresno tomorrow. While I'm in California, do you want me to come down and make your entire garage sticky?

Harvey, who has wheel pants, fiberglass and a sticky shop.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®4

-------- Original message --------
From: Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
Date:02/14/2015 9:34 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Aeronca <aer...@westmont.edu>
Subject: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

Well 89 F here is So Cal, so much for rain and so much for winter ugh!!.  So out of frustration I decided to removed the brushed dripping coat of pain in my fiberglass wheel pants (and 4 more bellow that one).  Now there are some holes for the home made brackets that someone did put on it.  Of course the hole do not match the original Aeronca brackets (that I have to make) so I want to cover the holes and make them go away.  Really no experience with fiberglass(yet), what s the best way to cover them and make it pretty?
Tks
Rafael

[Richard Warner]

Use epoxy resin. Put a layer or two of cloth on the inside. Get some
dacron cloth and lay over it and once it cures, you may not even have to
sand it. Do the same on the outside. Wet the dacron with resin too on both
sides. Remove the dacron after it cures. The resin won't stick to it and
it leaves a nice smooth junction where the new fiberglass meets the old.
Its called Peel Ply in A/C Spruce, but any of the dacrons will
work.......i.e. Ceconite, Poly-Fiber, rtc. Good luck. I hope you can do it
with almost no sanding.

You can either grow up or become a pilot. You can't do both.

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From: Rafael [mailto:bot...@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:34 PM
To: Aeronca
Subject: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

[Rich Dugger]

A white chalky substance which I think is gypsum between two layers of
strong paper., usually in 4' x 8' sheets. Very heavy and fireproof.
A substitute for lathe boards and plaster.

Rich Dugger



"I don't know what use any one could find for a machine that would make
copies of documents. It certainly couldn't be a feasible business by
itself."

(The head of IBM, refusing to back the idea, forcing the inventor to found
Xerox)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Harvie
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:46 AM
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

[Rafael]

OH Ian, you need to watch the DIY Network tv channel, thy have a website too. How do you think that I keep up with these guys> :)
Rafael
Who is still lost in the English language and cant understand the reason of no using the metric system
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On Sun, 2/15/15, Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

To: aer...@westmont.edu
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 2:46 AM

[Rafael]

Look at the web for the DIY Channel and when you are t it look fir "rehab addict" (My future wife but she doesnt know it yet) Thanks for vote of confidence, and now I know that if I cant make it work with the fiberglass I can substitute with sheet rock !!!! :)

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On Sun, 2/15/15, Ian Harvie <ianh...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair
To: aer...@westmont.edu

Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 3:38 AM

[Rafael]

See you would have that problem if you used sheetrock instead. Best solution to removing epoxy from your boy id poly fiber reducer
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On Sun, 2/15/15, harveybrock <harve...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 5:43 AM

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[Rafael]

Great idea thanks
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On Sun, 2/15/15, Richard Warner <sky...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair
To: aer...@westmont.edu

Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 6:23 AM

[Richard Murray]

Did you mean 'boy' as in Gabriel, which conjures up a really funny mental picture, or your body, which is not as funny...))

[Cy Galley]

Washing with vinegar is supposed to remove uncured resin.

[Richard Holcombe]

Poly Fiber reducer is MEK.

You do not want it on your skin for any purpose. It will carry anything it dissolves into your body to reside in your liver. 

Great paint and glue system, but toxic to your body if you do not protect yourself from contact and organic vapors. ie. use a charcoal air filter mask.

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[Cy Galley]

Doing the joints with many layers of joint compound to try and make the
joint disappear is the reference.

Cy

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From: aeronca...@westmont.edu [mailto:aeronca...@westmont.edu] On
Behalf Of Ian Harvie
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:12 AM
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

[Rafael]

Yeah my cat trying to get attention pushing my hands around the key board. But it will work in your body and in your boy too :) Hey it did work in the cat "Aeronca" when in sat on top of the paper towel with epoxy on it :)
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On Sun, 2/15/15, Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 7:54 AM

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[Richard Murray]

That's funnier that Gabriel with epoxy all over. I have a mental picture of a cat trying to get away from a paper towel attached to its touche.

[Rafael]

Tip of tale which was more entertaining as we saw a black fussy thing breaking the speed of sound all over the place chased by a paper towel in close pursuit :)

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On Sun, 2/15/15, Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair
To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>

Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 9:02 AM

[Rafael]

Yeah well no mater how many gloves you gear of how cover you are there is always a way to get the glue in your skin. There used to be a painter at KLGB which we named MEK. No mask no nothing when he painted, you could tell by the look of his eyes he was painting and the color of the paint by the color of his nose. Great paint jobs and he got free "hights"
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On Sun, 2/15/15, Richard Holcombe <rhawley...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

To: "Aeronca" <aer...@westmont.edu>
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 8:00 AM

Poly Fiber reducer is
MEK.You do not want it on your skin for

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[harveybrock]

I'll have to try that next time. I've used vinegar to remove grout from floor tiles when it begins to set before I'm finished cleaning up a new floor.

 

Harvey, who has added Dacron and  vinegar to my shopping list

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®4

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From: Cy Galley <cga...@mchsi.com>
Date:02/15/2015 9:58 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

Washing with vinegar is supposed to remove uncured resin.

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From: aeronca...@westmont.edu [mailto:aeronca...@westmont.edu] On

Behalf Of Rafael
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:34 AM
To: aer...@westmont.edu

Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

See you would have that problem if you used sheetrock instead. Best solution
to removing epoxy from your boy id poly fiber reducer
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On Sun, 2/15/15, harveybrock <harve...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

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[harveybrock]

Yep, I had to laugh out loud at the thought of the cat trying to get away from the papertowel. Once, I saw a cat that stepped onto some tape. It seemed as if all other thoughts left and shaking a paw enough then running on 3 was all it could think to do.

Harvey

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-------- Original message --------
From: Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com>
Date:02/15/2015 11:03 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair

That's funnier that Gabriel with epoxy all over. I have a mental picture of a cat trying to get away from a paper towel attached to its touche.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Rafael <bot...@verizon.net> wrote:

Yeah my cat trying to get attention pushing my hands around the key board.  But it will work in your body and in your boy too :) Hey it did work in the cat "Aeronca" when in sat on top of the paper towel with epoxy  on it :)

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On Sun, 2/15/15, Richard Murray <murra...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [f-AA] Fiberglass repair
 To: "aer...@westmont.edu" <aer...@westmont.edu>

 Date: Sunday, February 15, 2015, 7:54 AM

 Did you
 mean 'boy' as in Gabriel, which conjures up a really
 funny mental picture, or your body, which is not as
 funny...))
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at
 10:33 AM, Rafael <bot...@verizon.net>
 wrote:

 See you
 would have that problem if you used sheetrock instead. Best
 solution to removing epoxy from your boy id poly fiber
 reducer

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[Ian Harvie]

Rafael, I couldn't agree more re the metric system. When I was working
in South Africa they went metric and the sale of rules and measures was
banned if they were made in both.
In Australia though they still sell measures with both.

Ian

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[Richard Murray]

Metric system would be much easier to work with and we nearly switched in 70s

mobile from the Galaxy S4

[Ginny Wilken]

I, too, find it apt. The difference between a tyro like myself and an expert in either is the time saved by knowing when to give up poking it:)

 

ginny

 

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Ginny Wilken

gwi...@fastmail.fm

 

[John Rodkey]

Wish I'd known this trick when repairing the fiberglas wingtips for the 206 at Kako a couple years ago.

--

John (poobah) Rodkey - N9361E 11AC at Goleta

[Ben Higginbotham]

Dacron/peal-ply is basically the same as any fine weave 100% polyester fabric that can be bought at fabric supply places for around $1 a yard. I have used this stuff on several projects and it works great.

Ben