Road Rash Could Not Find Any Cd-rom Drive
Thora Buckner
Reviving this as I was able to get an FZ-1 on Friday with Road Rash for 115. Hoping that was a good price. My thing is I have imgburn, I downloaded an image and burned it at 16X, slowest speed my drive will burn at, using memorex cd's and I put it in the 3do and it tries to load it and spits it right out at me. I tried it on my computer using 4do and it works. Anyone know what the problem could be? Take it apart and clean the laser, or are there FZ1's that won't read burned CD's, if so this is news to me.
Your FZ-1 plays an original game fine right? You loaded Road Rash ok? Just to be clear you are using a CD-r format disc right? Not CD+RW or something? If so it should work, only other thing I can suggest is trying a brand like Ritek instead, the old console drives can be picky, the PC drive you use for the emulator tend to be less finicky.
As far as I know it plays it fine, I've never owned a 3do. It loads the game and I can play it. Load times are long, but that's probably the drive itself, single speed I think. Yes, using CD-R Memorex. I am using imgburn with the default settings,only thing I have done is make it so i can burn dreamcast games so it will overburn if necessary, don't think that should make a difference with this though.
All 3DO play burned backups. The copyright protection was never added in the design, same as Sega CD, probably because nobody owned personal CD burners in 1993. The problem is probably the memorex cd-r. 3DO were always picky about the mods they read. U need to get some Taiyo yuden or equivalent quality cd-r. Also the laser could be getting weaker. And yes, slow load times were due to the 1x cd-rom.
I have a FZ-1 that will no longer read CDr discs. However, that was after I replaced the drive with a compatible PC CD-ROM drive (the original drive was failing). On my Goldstar that I also own, I have found that it did not like certain CDr brands at all. Some brands work, some don't. It's picky.
Imgburn is where it's at for me. Its super easy with that. Now if I could get all my Saturn games to burn that easily! It's the damn mds and mdf files or whatever they are that imgburn won't recognize. But I haven't had a game for 3DO that Imgburn won't burn for me.
By the way, if you try to open the cue file with your CD burning software and it can't find the ISO, you may have to open the cue file in a word processor to see what the filename is that it's looking for, and either change that to match the filename of the ISO or change your ISO's filename to match the cue file.
I'm wondering if anyone else has seen the same issue that I have ... My 3do will have a progressively harder time seeking and reading the data from my burned discs the longer it's on. After about an hour it will crash every time.
If I give it a "rest" and turn it off every 1/2 hour or so it will plug along just fine. I'm trying to figure out if it's my drive ir the CDs I'm using, and what I should do about it. Anyone else had a similar issue?
I'm finding stutter issues with FMV but the games play ok. I have heard MANY techniques for burning games.. many say to burn a disc as slow as possible, yet on Playstation 1 (PSX) Some say (and I can confirm) that faster speed burns on specific media have yielded better results.
This is one of those things that doesn't make sense to me, but the burner I use makes a big difference. You would think they are digital and just all do the same things, but it seems that's not the case. I have an old IDE LG burner and the discs I burn with that usually work, but my newer machine with a SATA DVD burner makes non-booting disks. PC's can read them, but very little luck with Playstation, 3DO, and especially Gamecube (that thing is a pain).
I know the 3DO doesn't have any kind of copy protection so it should be able to read CD-Rs. Is there a certain kind of CD-Rs you would recommend? My machine (FZ-1) will read commercial games fairly well. When I burn a game, it might read it the first time but not other times. It might have problems with cut scene playbacks. Sometimes it won't read the disc at all. Could it be the laser just needs cleaning?
I no longer have a 3DO, but when I did I found the solution was the same as other old disc-based systems: use a brand of CD-R with high reliability (like Sony) and burn slow. I had the same experience with Sega CD, PlayStation, Saturn, and Dreamcast.
I've found FZ-1 units to be unreliable with recordable media. I don't know if it's just an issue with laser alignment/power (like the GameCube) or something else. I haven't had the same issue with the FZ-10.
Burned games worked fine on my FZ-10, however, I would have to burn the games at the slowest speed possible (4x on my burner), otherwise the discs were unreliable, particularly on games that have a lot of FMV.
I have CD burned at 10X (can't do better... as in slower) and they work fine on my FZ-1. There is some time where games stop to load, but it might just act the same in the original game. I can't tell as I only have one original game for it.
This combination has worked for me every time. I've had two FZ-1s and a Goldstar pass through my hands, and all of them had different tolerances; my first FZ-1 was extremely picky and couldn't handle cheap media, whereas my current FZ-1 and (surprisingly) the Goldstar seem to have no trouble.
But the Taiyo Yudens have worked perfectly with all three. On my first FZ-1, I sometimes needed to let it warm up for 10-15 minutes first, and then it would read the Taiyo Yudens as well as an original disc. On the other machines, they have no trouble booting Taiyo Yudens from a cold start.
I used Imgburn to burn Gex to a Phillips CDR. I told it the minimum speed (1x) but it said the minimum for my drive was 8x. Gex worked. I tried burning Road Rash and it wouldn't play probably because of the write speed. it's almost not worth burning games to play on the real hardware when 4DO plays the game just was well. Collecting the games would be fun though.
It's not about how slowly you burn the disc, it's about what the optimal speed for your drive & media is. 8x might be the speed you want. Just don't use crap memorex discs in a crap iomega burner and you should have good results.
I have a laptop whose burner produces discs that are totally unreadable in anything other than a PC. Piece of junk. But I know not to blame the dreamcast when it doesn't read the discs that come from this laptop.
I haven't modded it myself. the.golden.ax has. The USB version requires the same modding as the hard drive version did. I think the hard part is that there is a chip that needs to be de-soldered that has 80-pins or something like that. For modders with experience modding system usually takes about 2 hours their first time from what I have seen.
I would assume the same thing, albeit with less storage space to hold your disc images. And possibly an easier way of disconnecting and transferring data back to it when in need. And this may be a stretch here.. but I wonder if you will still have to gut the CD drive of the FZ-10? I'm sure SAG can clarify.
Actually USB version adds more space. It can handle up to 2TB, whereas HD version only handled up to 120GB. It still replaces CD-ROM drive. Which honestly is not a big deal. As far as I know its 100% compatible with all games. Once you have it you will never want to use the CD-ROM drive anyways. Currently there is USB FZ-10 verison and a USB Goldstar version. The developer is also working on FZ-1 version of of the USB version as well.
Another thing to consider is that if you store your ISO's on external hard drives, sometimes not all the data will burn to the disc if your computer slows down during the recording process. I've had audio CD-R's that would burn from .wav format just fine from the local hard drive but when burned from my friend's external hard drive there would sometimes be a couple seconds of blank space in the middle of a song. I haven't experienced the same thing on any of my own external hard drives though so it might have just been a problem with his hard drive's USB connection speed.
I have a US FZ-1 from 1994 and I just bought a mint condition Japanese FZ-10 (date unknown as it is in transit) and a few games (so far) and as a test I ripped a couple of my retail discs to ISOs and burned them with my fairly new-ish Lite-On DVDRW drive (circa 2010?) at the slowest speed using cheap Memorex discs. All but 1 disc worked on my US FZ-1 but I mainly did that as a test to verify functionality of the 3DO reading CD-Rs because I'd use higher quality discs next time.
Now that the background is set let me explain what I want to do specifically so I can get some advice/information. I'm a ROM hacker by trade (mostly SNES RPGs) and I like poking around with games to do various things the main thing being hard or easy versions of games by request to name a couple. In 2014 I made a Supreme Warrior Easy mod by both request from someone and for my personal use. So I'd like to burn my mod of Supreme Warrior and other mods I'm working on to disc so I can both test them to and play them once finished. I am working on doing easy or hard mods for Star Control II, Lucienne's Quest, and Guardian War. Right now I'm data mining but I'd love to know if I'll have to use 4DO to test or if I can test them on real hardware.
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