Can't download on MAC

[nate...@hotmail.fr]

Hello,
I want to download on my MAC but when want to put the viewer on the applications folder it just don't move to in it mouse can't take it, and i stay with an second life installer who doesn't open :(
can someone help me please with this issue?
thank you
Natem

[Geenz Spad]

I'm assuming you're using OS X 10.7?

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Geenz Spad

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[jim...@gmail.com]

The download page indicates that it is only for MAC OSX .. 10.6 or later. 

My computer was new, and top notch .... when I bought it -- only 2.5 years ago -- and is still new to me -- but it is OSX 10.5.8  -- ffs -- not quite 10.6 ... but almost ! ... and I suspect you might be having the same trouble as me.  Apparently EXODUS VIEWER is too good for us.   OK, so that leaves a LOT of potential users out in the cold.  

Dear EXODUS VIEWER DEVELOPERS: ... Would it be too much trouble to expand back a little bit so more of us MAC owners can use it?

P.S. People here need to pay attention, if we are to get anywhere, and mention your version of MAC when asking this sort of question ----> they also indicate we need to be specific in our questions.   I can assume all day long, too ... but I suspect, knowing how many professionals out there use MAC with an OS X # lower than 10.6, and also that MOST MAC users, gleefully satisfied with its quality, haven't yet retired their 2 - 8 year old MACs yet.

[Geenz Spad]

Oh boy, the beginnings of an OS X debate!

There are several reasons why supporting OS X 10.5.x would be counter productive in terms of adding new features to the viewer, and trying to support an OS where graphics driver quality is laughable at best.

Supporting OS X 10.5 would put us in a bit of a predicament in the event I ever want to add some features that make use of newer APIs on OS X 10.7, such as fullscreen support.

Many of these features can be implemented while easily maintaining backwards compatibility with OS X 10.6, but 10.5 wouldn't be as easy to support in this case.

There's also the issue of graphics drivers.  10.5.x's graphics drivers (10.5.8 included!) are notoriously bad.  Apple made advancements in fixing many issues in this category to make OS X into a slightly more viable platform for games in the OS X 10.6 release cycle, and even more advancements in OS X 10.7's cycle such as the addition of the OpenGL Core profile for OpenGL 3.2.

Now, another reason why we won't be supporting 10.5, in part has to do with Apple's SDKs.  Exodus is compiled with a slightly modified version of Xcode 4.2, that has GCC 4.0 support to work around a bug when compiling with GCC 4.2 or LLVM-GCC 4.2.  On top of that, we compile against OS X 10.6's version of APR, due to another bug in the viewer that arises when compiling with LL's version of APR that prevents local textures from loading (which means you basically see gray blocks for the UI, and other seemingly unloaded textures in the viewer).  The end result is, the viewer tends to be unworkable under OS X 10.5, in the vast majority of cases simply crashing when it launches.

So, will we be fixing it for 10.5.8?  No.  Apple has made it pretty cheap, and incredibly easy, for users to upgrade to OS X 10.7, and most intel-based Macs support 10.7 anyways.

If you chose not to upgrade to OS X 10.6 (therefore meaning no access to the Mac App Store, and by extension the ability to purchase OS X 10.7 at a cheaper rate), then you can purchase a thumb drive with OS X 10.7 on it directly from Apple here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A?

If you're system is a first-generation intel Mac running OS X 10.5, and cannot upgrade to OS X 10.7, you can purchase an upgrade to OS X 10.6 here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA

OS X 10.7 has seen excellent performance gains for 3D applications (even if they're still not quite on par with Windows), and the crash rate tends to be generally much lower in comparison to OS X 10.5 and 10.6 when it comes to applications in general.  There really isn't much of a reason not to upgrade to 10.7.

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Geenz Spad

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[jim...@gmail.com]

Sounds great!

But if you deciphered any disappointment in my writing tone, it was only because I was excited about your product after a friend recommended it and then I saw Pesto Portland's video of the EXODUS Viewer in action ..and I was wowed. 

I was not looking to incite a debate.  I merely didn't know a MAC OSX could be upgraded .. without buying a whole new computer.  This is news to me ... and therefore .. on top of being impressed with Exodus for what it can do, I can add being impressed with you for enlightening me about the potential to upgrade my MAC so I can also use it.  

No conflict incited, ... just a sincere 'thank you' to you.

[nate...@hotmail.fr]

ohh ok thank you very much for all this informations now i understand too why i see rocks on new LL viwer too.
yes my MAC is OSX 10.5
i go look to update it  :)

[nate...@hotmail.fr]

hello :)
is me again iI am in the same case of jim my mac have 2,5 years abd is OSX10.5.8 well and to update the snow Leopard is only in the apple store online and maybe not for longer, well I have to wait some days to see if this investissement is the good one, I sincerely hope so because in this moment I can't buy a new MAC and i don't like the V1 or even V3 i was used yet and like it very much V3 but the last releases just don't work some basic textures just don't work :(
Thank you for all advices, have great time

Natem

[Luminitsa]

mine downloads fine... I'd suggest redowloading it, deleting your current one and try again if that doesn't work something is wrong with your mac... or you should check that you have the memory to hold it too