Textdrive to shut down - 14 March

[Ian Reilly]

http://discuss.textdrive.com/
Should probably start spreading the word.

Maintenance

As anyone looking for decent support or useful information the past few months can attest, the revival of TextDrive has not been a success. What began in mid-2012 as an exciting challenge fuelled by good intentions and lean resources quickly turned into a cleanup project with almost no resources. It is disappointing to report that after a year and a half of uphill battles and unimagined setbacks, after several costly efforts to regroup and find another way, options to keep TextDrive growing have run out, and we will cease operations on the 14th of March, 2014. For those who wish to know, details of what went wrong will be made available once shutdown operations have completed. Sorry to have let you down. Dean

[Niloc]

I just saw that this morning as well.

At least Dean finally spoke right?

[walter piovesan]

No. But I wouldn't waste any time in getting your data off of textdrive. 

The Ides of March fast approaches 

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On 2014-03-03, at 6:13 AM, Niloc <cwhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just saw that this morning as well.

Does anyone know any more information on a timeframe?  Are the servers going to be shut down in 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, etc?

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[Joel Dueck]

Kind of a bummer that they took away the forums at the exact moment of making this announcement. Will make it hard to coordinate help for those who need it.

[Hannah Mae]

This implies there's some part of Textdrive that hasn't shut down already.  Is there?  My tiny corner of it (residing on jervis) seems to remain as gone as it was three weeks ago.

Hannah

[Walter Piovesan]

I have two sites still being served from TxD. And I just logged on to Beatrice https://virtualmin-jfk.textdrive.us/beatrice/

so i assume what is up is up until it fails or it shuts down on March 14th. 

I have had everything migrated for weeks now. All I need to do is switch DNS settings.

[larry.f...@gmail.com]

On Monday, March 3, 2014 10:33:13 AM UTC-8, Walter Piovesan wrote:

> so i assume what is up is up until it fails or it shuts down on March 14th. 
>
>
> I have had everything migrated for weeks now. All I need to do is switch DNS settings.

Likewise, I've had plan B ready to go for a couple of weeks, hoping that this wouldn't happen while knowing it was probably imminent. I just have to tell people to ensure that they have local copies of any e-mail they need before I switch over DNS.

I would be surprised if anything was shut down before the 14th, but I'm not going to wait until the last minute, either.

[Jacques Marneweck]

Hi Guys,

Two forums exist on the Kaizen Garden forums to help co-ordinate things here.  http://discuss.kaizengarden.co/

Plugging the Shared Hosting service that I have built and continue to improve upon http://kaizengarden.co/lp/textugees

Regards
--jm

[Bill Turner]

Thanks for setting that up and getting it running, Jacques! I've since moved all my stuff to a digital ocean VPS, so I'm not going to need your setup. But I'm so glad to know it's out there for those that do!

Thanks for all you did for us over at TxD!

Bill

[Niloc]

Does anyone think an email will be sent out to all TxD 2.0 people?  Or will everyone that's not paying attention right now to the forums just crash and burn?

I'm leaning towards Dean letting everyone crash and burn myself.

[Walter Piovesan]

The latter is the most likely scenario  ... otherwise we all would have received the email by now. 

[Eli]

Making the announcement in a way that manages to cut off discussion among TxD's more engaged users while also leaving many (most?) people in the dark about the shutdown is a nice coup de grace.

[Jan Isley]

This makes my textdrive.me domain worth millions now, right?

[walter piovesan]

Not sure about millions. but it should be worth a lifetime account or tow  on TxD3.0 

[Jan Isley]

3.0? Yea, it could happen.

In the meantime, I will entertain offers on textdrive.me

[David Foltz]

How long is it good for?
As long as we exist. 

 

[So Awesome Man]

Maybe TextDrive does still exist, and this is all just a big test...

[David Foltz]

Please note on the screenshot, in the footer, it clearly states TextDrive is a trademark of Joyent. Joyent still exists.

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[walter piovesan]

i think Joyent broke the covenant. Asshats.

[walter piovesan]

yep:

Joyent was founded in 2004 under the name TextDrive 

In November 2005, TextDrive merged with Joyent

[lgpiper]

I was still rather a Joyent fanboi, even after they killed the Connector (whose loss I still lament to this day), even after they fobbed us off and Dean took us up. But after they turned off the lights on the not-yet-migrated servers, I lost all respect for them. Joyent is the last company I'd recommend for cloud services. They can't be trusted.

[walter piovesan]

I grew to love Connector (esp after @lgpiper's great docs) 

It was a sad day when we lost that app. i had gotten to depend on it. 

I have no idea what/who Joyent is today.... but, yes, no respect for  them ... losers in my eyes.

[Jacques Marneweck]

I still miss connector.  I want to look at building a new connector at some point.

Regards

--jm

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[So Awesome Man]

I miss it too, so I forked it: https://github.com/awesome/joyent-connector Maybe I could help resurrect it someday. I started programming Ruby with thurlow.texdrive.com back in the days…

[Ian Reilly]

Good old thurlow. That is where I first started with the mixed grill!

[Jacques Marneweck]

I would be more curious in having a StrongSpace clone before that goes away for lifetimers.

Regards
--jm

[Scott Murray]

Not to change the topic of this thread, but has anyone heard anything about Strongspace?  I have not heard any updates in a long time, and just assumed we could continue to use that service, independent of TxD.

Scott

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[walter piovesan]

Scott - as far as I know Strongspace is independent from TxD. It was spun out a few years ago and it stated that the Lifetime accounts were being honoured. 

I have not heard anything contrary to this:

On 2009-11-17, at 3:19 PM, Jeff Mancuso wrote:

Hey all -
   Thanks for your patience - ExpanDrive is now ready to migrate over your lifetime account into Strongspace 2.0.

And it has been all good ever since. 

walter

[J]

Maybe those of us that paid for "lifetime" hosting can now get a refund? That would be the day...

[J]

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:51:25 PM UTC-7, J wrote:

Maybe those of us that paid for "lifetime" hosting can now get a refund? That would be the day...

Nope. Response from Joyent:

Thanks for your message. Refunds, special offers or coupons -- specific to either Joyent's or TextDrive's former shared hosting customers -- are not available.

 

We understand that TextDrive announced they would be ceasing operations as of March 14, 2014, as shown on: http://discuss.textdrive.com. Relevant information follows:
> We have no current information on any methods for contacting TextDrive.
> Joyent has no access to TextDrive's environments, servers or data. Control of all environments, servers and data (for our former shared hosting accounts) was transferred to TextDrive when it became a separate company in 2013.

 

Joyent no longer offers the types of shared hosting services that were transferred to TextDrive, but you are always welcome to open a new account at http://www.joyent.com.

 

I am closing this ticket, as we normally do when we have no further on-topic information to share. We wish you the very best.

 

Regards,
Sean G.
Joyent, Inc.

 

[Jacques Marneweck]

And TextDrive has been deadpooled.  Servers are all off.

[Eric Wagoner]

/me pours a 40 on the curb

[kmsd]

It really seems like Joyent spun off TextDrive and gave it no resources to survive. I felt this was coming shortly after the spin off and support was harder and harder to get a hold off... we have been duped. Plain and simple. Joyent is run by dishonorable people lacking integrity. It anyone knows an attorney who would take up such a matter maybe we can pool some money together to have a firm at least hear what happened and see if there is anything that can be done about it. You can't just spin off your contracts to a new company and then let it sink. The agreement was "as long as we exist". They still exist. I don't care if they did some accounting moves to transfer assets to an empty, unfunded, unstaffed company.

[walter piovesan]

 Joyent may have indeed set us up. but it's water under the bridge now. 

 

... best to move on 

 

[wassimks]

That water is actually not water but my money and it's not my money under a bridge it's in the pockets of Jason Hoffman. I haven't even hit $17 a month for service. DreamHost offers high quality hosting for less than half that. 

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[walter piovesan]

I don't mean to minimize anyone's loss. 

Nor to dissuade others from pursuing any means they wish to try and recover their money.

All the best,

[Don Whiteside]

You'd be better off filing an individual small claims action. Which I ponder doing now and again. The issue I'd have would be venue; they might prevail in claiming that VA courts don't have jurisdiction over them.

[Benjamin Brundell]

So, I mailed Joyent on the back of an old support ticket.    They replied:

Thanks for your message. Refunds, special offers or coupons -- specific to Joyent's or TextDrive's former shared hosting customers -- are not available.

I'm pretty cross at this.  I didn't just invest $200, I invested $1000 at a time when I couldn't really afford it but wanted the security of never paying for hosting again.  Hosting for me ended at Christmas 2012 when the Joyent machine failed, and I was never migrated to Textdrive.  I had to find old backups, buy services from WordPress and new hosting.  It means I had hosting between 2006 and 2012...six years or $166 per year.  I know in the UK I get great support from Vidahost for about $47 a year.

What to do?  I haven't the funds to launch legal action in the US when I live in the UK.  I can only mail and appeal to Jason and Dean to ask about the fairness of this.  If someone in the US starts a small claim I'd be happy to join and part fund it.

Ben