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Dhara Lyford

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Seemsthat the application is not designed for RAW images as sold. I have seen so many youtube videos where the reviewers purported to be editing RAW images. However, it seems they have all skipped that they needed to export a jpeg of tiff for Topaz to have full funtionality

If you need the link, I can provide it. Topaz announced its availability, specifically stating it can work on RAW images. I never said anything about changing RAW images. Not sure how you think adjusting lighting is any different than sharpening, removing noise from a RAW image.


I wanted to give this software a challenge so I started with image you see above. I made sure I used an image that is properly focused and sharp but the lighting is, well, awful. I was shooting straight into the sun with no exposure compensation so my main subject is in deep shadow with the white upholstery a deep gray. After creating the RAW/DNG from the JPEG I gave both versions an equivalent exposure adjustment so that measured skin tone values on her face match between the JPEG and RAW images. I made no other adjustment besides lightening exposure.


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To the subject at hand, I am confused as to why I need to add JPEG to Raw AI in addition to Sharpen AI and AI Gigapixel, which also improve lower res JPEG files. All three seem to improve the quality of the original image. Is their redundancy?


Scenario 2. You have a small and low quality jpeg with which you want to create a large print or enlarge greatly for some purpose. A.I. Gigapixel does a great job of big enlargement from small files. This could also be a small portion of a larger file, even a raw one.


Scenario 3. You have a high quality raw file and need to make a really big print. Again, A.I. Gigapixel for this can work well. I have used it this way, even when starting with a 42MP raw file when I need to have enough resolution for, say, a six foot (2 meter) print.


Is it really that bad? I just purchased this software recently so I have no idea how it works on older versions, but I can say for sure that this software is worth every penny, especially considering I always shot in jpeg until this year. Not sure what you are experiencing.


First of all, I'm thrilled to find this group. I'm new to Topaz software, and I'm loving the trials. I'm thinking that the first program I'll buy will be Adjust.



My question is: when you edit your photos using Topaz software, do you work on a TIFF (and if you do, 8-bit or 16-bit?) or is working on a jpeg fine? I have been working from 16 bit TIFFs, which is time consuming due to load times/processing times. So, I want to know if using Topaz on TIFFs produces better results than working with jpegs.



What do you guys think?



Thanks. :)



EDIT: I am mainly referring to Adjust, because that is the program I plan to purchase. Also, some number of my photos wind up going up for sale on a iStockPhoto.com. So, I would only prefer to work with JPEGS if there truly is no difference with the end result compared to a TIFF.

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I can't get it to work on 16 bit images. I always have to convert to 8 bits before it will work. That may be a limitation imposed by PaintShop Pro, not Topaz. I do have Photoshop Elements installed, so a test is in order here. I'll get back to you on the result,

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I always process and keep anything as PSD as a master file (even when this format isn't documented well and Adobe might change specs at any time) and convert to JPG if needed.

Starting with JPG might be fine as well, but be reminded, that every time you open and save a JPG again, you lose information.

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TIFF compression is lossless which means that it retains original data unlike JPEGS that lose image quality each time it is edited. You are always better off to use TIFF if final image quality is important and then convert to JPEG.

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Work on raw (cr2) file in Lightroom, open raw (cr2) file in Photoshop from Lightroom option, work on 16 bit file from Photoshop to Adjust via filters menu and plugin... save as .psd for any future changes and also "save for web and devices" for the smaller jpeg files for web/print use.



TIFF... what's that for again? Ha... seriously... don't think I've ever used, saved, created a TIFF file yet that I know of (sad eh)..

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big argument in the hdr community too because the raw converter in cs4 etc is better than the one in the hdr software(even photomatix/hdrsoft admit that.)

doing an hdr in tiffs(3for instance) seems to come out better than one done in 3 raws.

I guess the only fair way to make a realistic comparison is to play with the same file after using topaz on the same settings- jpeg/psd/raw/tiff. and to compare them on YOUR monitor.

I guess another point is the software and what may be compatible.DNG anyone?







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I totally start with a RAW file and try to do as much as I can In ACR, then when transfer to photoshop, I do it in 16 bit.

The only way to apply any Topaz filter to the RAW is opening the RAW as a Smart Object and applying Topaz as a Smart Filter.

So, when you open in photoshop (or your host application) doing it in 16 bit will kep much more information, even if you don't notice it, the info is there and when applying any filter you will have more information to play with, which will help you in banding and posterization issues.



You can apply any Topaz filter in 8 or 16 bits JPG, TIFF, PSD (no LAB) but just keep in mind that more information you have, the better your process will render and mostly is you aply strong settings.

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Photoshop CS4 converts a Raw to a TIFF and then to a PSD when it is edited. Am I missing something? Not sure if I understand you right - is this what you believe happens all the time when you open a RAW in ACR and send it to PS?

There is no file format so far, just by ACR processed "0"s and "1"s which were read form the structure of a RAW.

File formats are storing formats, not editing formats... When the information of a file was loaded to the memory, there is no "structure" like a file format structure of a "TIF" or "PSD" you might think of.

A file type / format tells the app how to en-/decode the data when its read from or written to a storage medium and in cases of RAW, where (on which offsets) the software finds certain information, like f.e. the RAW image data, the data of the embedded JPGs and the metadata. For further processing we don't need a file format structure; we don't need to know anymore where the data is located in a file) - we just need to read those values ones from their proper places (offsets) and store them for further use in memory or in a scratch file, on which its treated as memory.



The structure (format) is generated when all the data (imagedata, metadata and a fresh generated JPG = embedded thumbnail for previewing - just to name some) are fetched from memory and / or scratch, reassembled and placed at the right location in a structure.

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Click the image above and it will open in a new window. We are looking at 200% magnification of an are of the original raw file (right), a full resolution jpeg created from that raw file (middle), and a shitty DNG created by this abomination from Topaz on the left.


I have been using lightroom classic 12.1 with Topaz Photo AI for the past few months without a hitch. I updated Topaz today to 1.1.7 and it no longer works. I followed the instructions in the preferences in lightroom to add the external editior. I browsed to Topaz in the applications folder. I have a mac studio. When I clicked on plug in extras and clicked on process with Topaz Photo AI, from lightroom's menu, it appears to open Topaz as it did in the past but then I get a message of "Failed to process the photo. Topaz Photo AI either failed to start or did not finish successfully."


I can however, open Topaz Photo AI up as a stand alone, and open jpgs on my desktop, but I cannot open files on my disk that are in lightroom catalog using Topaz as a stand alone or through the lighroom plug in. So strange.


All of my photos are in the catalog. I can go to any of the photos in Lightroom and call them up for development or to look at them when I try to use the plug-in for topaz AI for any of the photos including ones that I took today and uploaded as well as any I took over the last half year I get that same message that Topaz failed to start or did not complete successfully. This seems to be a issue with Lightroom classic since I am able to open Topaz directly and drop any JPEG into it and use its functions. As I have mentioned, I re-pointed Lightroom classic to topaz for the external editor and I can't see what else needs to be done . Thank you for the suggestion. The catalog is up-to-date and everything is easily found.

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