Do people become scientists just because they are unable to adjust to the real world ?

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Cosmin Visan

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May 1, 2025, 2:22:17 PM5/1/25
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Do people become scientists just because they are unable to adjust to the real world ?

spudb...@aol.com

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May 1, 2025, 4:18:02 PM5/1/25
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They achieve STEM because they innately possess excellent math & learning ability. 
There's a mega ton of people without great math skills who cannot adjust to the real world. In the West they head for alcohol and drugs. 

Meanwhile there's this for you to consider: 

AI models routinely lie when honesty conflicts with their goals


Sounds human to me! 




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Cosmin Visan

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May 1, 2025, 4:45:28 PM5/1/25
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So you are saying that they are good Starcraft players. Science should be about understanding reality, not about playing Starcraft.

spudb...@aol.com

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May 2, 2025, 12:09:23 PM5/2/25
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You sir, and now doing philosophy of science. Like let us say, John Leslie in Canada, or some happy guys on Philpapers. The harder part is testing, measuring, observing and the publishng conclusions for others. Philosophers are great, but they ain't doing neuro-science. Reading neuroscientists, yes, but not doing the sweat work.

Cosmin Visan

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May 2, 2025, 4:05:04 PM5/2/25
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Nobody is doing neuroscience, given that they have the religion of "brain producing consciousness". If the initial philosophy is wrong, all the subsequent work is pure garbage.

spudb...@aol.com

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May 3, 2025, 8:53:54 AM5/3/25
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Another hypothesis is the brain is a receiver of consciousness. This is not the hill I wish to die upon, but yes, its worth considering. There seems to be cause and effect involved, otherwise anethesia would never work.

Alan Grayson

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May 3, 2025, 1:30:48 PM5/3/25
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On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 2:05:04 PM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
Nobody is doing neuroscience, given that they have the religion of "brain producing consciousness". If the initial philosophy is wrong, all the subsequent work is pure garbage.

So, with an alleged false philosophy, how did science develop anesthetics, anti-biotics, and vaccines? Are these results garbage? Is the James Webb Space Telescope also garbage? AG 

Cosmin Visan

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May 3, 2025, 4:16:17 PM5/3/25
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Of course is garbage. What are those "galaxies", "nebula", "stars" if not hallucinations in sick minds ?

Alan Grayson

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May 3, 2025, 6:32:08 PM5/3/25
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On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 2:16:17 PM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
Of course is garbage. What are those "galaxies", "nebula", "stars" if not hallucinations in sick minds ?

The only sick mind here is YOU, with your untestable proclamations, and claims of superiority. You're a flaming example of ASSHOLE consciousness, nothing more. AG 

Cosmin Visan

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May 4, 2025, 2:52:41 AM5/4/25
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I gave you a testable prediction: there is life after death.
Why do you feel inferior to me ? 

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