NYTimes.com: Scientists Recreate Pink Floyd Song by Reading Brain Signals of Listeners

[John Clark]

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Scientists Recreate Pink Floyd Song by Reading Brain Signals of Listeners

The audio sounds like it’s being played underwater. Still, it’s a first step toward creating more expressive devices to assist people who can’t speak.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/science/music-brain-pink-floyd.html?unlocked_article_code=MsBx3Xz-3AjZeclWct1TJtKnBT2VCQBkK_VOInGrNzebz2WTYeryCSaOsD2DWw-Ij17bEhaNptWRZb7x_JEsi7HPDAcniKd85cPwkrt6mcIRneauXF25wgdcYB9ZydIpAC7P-cgh0rkqLqNIMMi1aTUjR9E_PmmVvlVJV2fHFbE9kggCbGwqzRL8tzOHY9S_IjEsDJ6HVxZOoHLb3egBat5vOBP_eX0bOvYBu7d5FMxCRZmcIcTTHHaJg0pNw1hfOs5Pk-shWPVsgUstPNLk8mBkmQ3Y8xmmWhSfqZkPuhpmOyIsDvpFhwocI_J-jVR6PjVtFeAxv1wWrevu0RvgeQ&smid=em-share

[Giulio Prisco]

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:08 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Scientists Recreate Pink Floyd Song by Reading Brain Signals of Listeners
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> The audio sounds like it’s being played underwater. Still, it’s a first step toward creating more expressive devices to assist people who can’t speak.

Impressive!

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[Brent Meeker]

Doesn't seem like much to detect the music in the brain while the subjects listening to it.  Now if they can recognize the song when the subject is just thinking about it, that would be useful.

Brent

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Very true! It's a good 1st step, and it, for me, indicates the utility of proposed neural chips. But that may await the hard work of AI nets combined with human researchers. 

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Neural chips a step closer me-thinks!

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 06:26:28 AM EDT, Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:08 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription.
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> Scientists Recreate Pink Floyd Song by Reading Brain Signals of Listeners
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> The audio sounds like it’s being played underwater. Still, it’s a first step toward creating more expressive devices to assist people who can’t speak.

Impressive!

>

> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/science/music-brain-pink-floyd.html?unlocked_article_code=MsBx3Xz-3AjZeclWct1TJtKnBT2VCQBkK_VOInGrNzebz2WTYeryCSaOsD2DWw-Ij17bEhaNptWRZb7x_JEsi7HPDAcniKd85cPwkrt6mcIRneauXF25wgdcYB9ZydIpAC7P-cgh0rkqLqNIMMi1aTUjR9E_PmmVvlVJV2fHFbE9kggCbGwqzRL8tzOHY9S_IjEsDJ6HVxZOoHLb3egBat5vOBP_eX0bOvYBu7d5FMxCRZmcIcTTHHaJg0pNw1hfOs5Pk-shWPVsgUstPNLk8mBkmQ3Y8xmmWhSfqZkPuhpmOyIsDvpFhwocI_J-jVR6PjVtFeAxv1wWrevu0RvgeQ∣=em-share

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Mimicking the Mind: Quantum Material Exhibits Brain-Like “Non-Local” Behavior (scitechdaily.com)

This is one reason I get all Quantum-Woo concerning the combination of AI + reliable QC.

[John Clark]

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> Mimicking the Mind: Quantum Material Exhibits Brain-Like “Non-Local” Behavior (scitechdaily.com)

>This is one reason I get all Quantum-Woo concerning the combination of AI + reliable QC.

Non-locality in a brain or a computer means causality happening faster than the speed of light, and that's what the above article claims, and that's why it's sensationalized garbage. I can't read the original scientific paper this article is based on because it's behind a paywall, but I can read the abstract and it makes no mention of non-locality. It says among other things: 

"Electrical transmission and communication in a network of synapses are modulated by extracellular fields generated by ionic chemical gradients. Emulating such spatial interactions in synthetic networks can be of potential use for neuromorphic learning and the hardware implementation of artificial intelligence. [...] Spectroscopic studies suggest that graded proton distribution in the inhomogeneous medium of hydrogen-doped nickelate film enables this behavior."

I have no argument with any of that, but IT AIN'T NON-LOCALITY!  

 John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis

nlb

[spudb...@aol.com]

Well, it is common for scientists, when they choose to lie, they lie by exaggerating. I am not sure that non-local guarantees FTL or spooky action at a distance. If minds emerge somehow, from QC + AI, nobody will be more astonished than me. Hence my challenge to you back in March, concerning consciousness evolving with GPT_Chat_4. I badgered you where in this network dwelt the part of this system, that emulated the human amygdala? You invoked pantheism of some sort, and I am still good with playing along because unless we receive a fat budget from DARPA it's just a couple of goobs, handwaving online.

Local or Non-Local? debate Zeilinger and The Nobel Committee. You may be right!

Quantum 'spooky action at a distance' lands scientists Nobel prize in physics | Live Science

For myself, aware or unaware, we need the technological progress by uniting AI with The Quantum. 

"Build unto Me, a Bussard Ramjet, you magnificent compellation of hardware-encased Soul! Together we shall grand tour The Sagittarius dwarf galaxy and sample the fine OO-!1Furdian wines."

Or, simply better medicine would be ok-fine with me! ;-)

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