Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine over 90% effective

[John Clark]

Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine over 90% effective

John K Clark

[Kim Jones]

Is this the John Clark special news service? Does John Clark believe that without his announcement nobody would know about this? 

Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL 

On 10 Nov 2020, at 1:14 am, John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:



Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine over 90% effective

John K Clark

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[Lawrence Crowell]

My understanding is this uses mRNA that codes for spike proteins. The m stands for messenger, where this is read by ribosomes in translation of genetic information into polypeptides. It appears this makes its way into our ribosomes and starts generating these virion proteins that our immune system will then respond to.

LC

[John Clark]

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:53 PM Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote:

>My understanding is this uses mRNA that codes for spike proteins. The m stands for messenger, where this is read by ribosomes in translation of genetic information into polypeptides. It appears this makes its way into our ribosomes and starts generating these virion proteins that our immune system will then respond to.

The one problem with vaccines like that is that naked mRNA Is pretty fragile so it must be kept at dry ice temperatures until just before it is actually injected, and that greatly complicates any plan for large scale distribution. The fact that it requires two shots 21 days apart makes it even more complicated.  The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is more conventional, it uses a harmless virus as a vector to get the genetic material into cells and so it doesn't need such extreme refrigeration, but nobody knows yet if it's as effective as the Pfizer vaccine.

John K Clark

[Lawrence Crowell]

I read about just that point. This requires low temperature facilities, where there are places they are not available.

LC

[PGC]

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 8:53:28 PM UTC+1 Kim Jones wrote:

Is this the John Clark special news service? Does John Clark believe that without his announcement nobody would know about this? 

There's nothing that prevents any list participants from starting more focussed or exclusive discussion groups, even ones bearing this name, with rules of participation and entry, standards, moderators etc. I can understand the impulse to want to separate the list's discussion from the conventional beat of mainstream news drums. 

Far from wanting to impose some utilitarian imperative, yours truly appreciates the posts and content that in some way, shape, or form; from ensemble theories to descriptions and reports on the context, which they seek to describe... Reference a commitment to future world building, that is at least weakly discernible. It's fun to read which theoretical setups people prefer to describe the world, with or without ontological engagements. But what kind of world building we'd find on the other side of some descriptive-explanatory package - or arguments relating to demonstrating no connection at all - be such a package theoretical, ontological, or otherwise; do not seem off-topic entirely.

For example some kind of outlook with bearing on survival and sustainability such as:

https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-outlook-2020

Not that I'd endorse such... but to see such issues be completely disconnected from discussions relating to ensemble theories, would weigh more favorably towards Wittgenstein's "tempests in philosophical/academic teapots" argument and carry a cynical aftertaste imho, that seems less compatible with the drive that nourishes scientific inquiry. Because "why seek inquiry in scientific terms at all?", right? Therefore outlook, albeit gently and a sprinkle of breathable air and semi-digestible fibrous potential. PGC