Re: Was, Re: The theology of number, (Now) The Universe Learns (not released on April 1st)

[spudb...@aol.com]

I've offered up the notion that the universe got started by a perhaps a boltzmann brain (singular) and is run by the BB. Bruno thinks this proposal is sub-ridiculous, ask him! Me? I still see it as plausible and charming. I have no proposal for testing this possibility. Leave that for the cosmologists.

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On Friday, June 18, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

On 6/18/2021 2:38 AM, John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:23 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

>Socialists who do mass murder are no better than religious people who do mass murder. Can we agree on this premise? 

Yes. And can we agree on the premise that Black Lives Matter protesters who broke into a Burger King  ARE BETTER than Trump's thugs who broke into the Capitol Building and even the Senate Chamber itself in order to prevent the democratic election of the next President of the United States as demanded by the US Constitution? Saying otherwise would be like saying a firefly is the same as a supernova because they both produce light. 

> We have our own religions and sometimes without a god

You're trying to leech all meaning out of a word. People like to say nonsense like the above because they like the way the English word "religion" sounds and don't care what it means; it's the same reason they redefined the word "God" in such a vague way that everybody would have to say they believe in God. I believe I can't lift my car off the ground because gravity is too strong, so I believe in a higher power, so I must believe in "God". I believe that grey amorphous blobs exist, so I must believe in "God".  

“People are more unwilling to give up the word ‘God’ than to give up the idea for which the word has hitherto stood”
    --- Bertrand Russell

Brent

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[Lawrence Crowell]

What you offer as a way the universe got started, through Boltzmann brain, is one reason some people see BBs as pernicious. If the whole of existence is some mental projection within a BB then all of physics implodes. The instability of de Sitter spacetime makes BBs improbable however,

LC