The correlation between belief in Trump and death

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John Clark

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Jun 9, 2022, 11:39:36 AMJun 9
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In looking over the Internet I found some interesting statistics. At the start of the Covid epidemic, before the vaccine was invented, the death rate for black Americans was much higher than that of white Americans, but that is no longer true; today the death rate for white Americans is 14% higher than for black Americans. In another statistic that I think is related, in 2020 Trump only got 46% of the popular vote but 57% of white Americans voted for Trump and it was 63% among non-college educated white voters,  and to this day 53% of Republicans believe Donald Trump when he says he won the 2020 election and is the true president of the USA. Even before the epidemic Trump contributed to the anti-scientific anti-vaccine hysteria by claiming that vaccinations cause autism, so it's not surprising that only 56% of Republicans are vaccinated as compared to 70% of Independents and 92% of Democrats. It's also not surprising that the Covid death rate in states that voted for Trump was 38% higher than the death rate in states that voted for Biden. If you look county by county 326 people per 100,000 died of Covid in counties that Trump won versus only 258 in counties  Biden won,  and the top 10% reddest pro-Trump counties died at a rate that was 6 times higher than the top 10% bluest pro-Biden counties.
 
So there is a clear correlation between belief in Trump and death, but I am unsure which is a cause and which is an effect, I don't know if white people believe in Trump because they're stupid or belief in Trump makes white people stupid. Either way Trump worship has become a death cult. 

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I know lots and lots of conservatives who took the vaxes. I had vax 4 Pfizer a month ago. The question is if:
a) do the vaxes harm the young?
b) are the vaccines less helpful after vax 2. 

Hence the need for treatments above preventions, at this phase. On a demographic basis, the refusal of dem party constituents should level the playing field of actual voters voting for both teams. As a mean, mean, guy, and a former dem, I would say to Black folk, "See? dems wants ya' to die either way. You know that that vaccinating is just a trick by cracker, to kill Black folks, and they refuse to sufficiently fund Treatments that would save your lives. Then, JC, I would do the hot-button trigger. I would say, "And replacement. The dems want Hondurans in the country not to replace just the whites, but really to replace You! Easier to manage then Black folks are, less demanding! I bet I'd get Al Sharpton (temporarily) with that one!

Remember, according to Machiavelli, and Saul Alinsky, winning is all that is matters. The members of the DNC have surely read The Prince, and Rules for Radicals. Never fear, JC, my mouth is shut, I have no "in" with the RNC, no campaign donation$ to deliver unto these. But, I'd thought I'd give you some Out of the Progressive Box, feedback? :-D

Meanwhile while we obsess about the US and your No.1 foe, the Reps, The Chinese Communist Party, may be heating things up in the Pacific, for a knockout punch in the Pacific, which would loosen attention about Vlad v NATO. A double knock out punch?

And you thought you wuz looking at the impact of Covid on voting demographics, ha! Or rather the naturally low intel of conservatives? Here's the Stinger. Orange man had Covid and is still walking around giving speeches. Nyuck! 

Rock on JC, Rock on!


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Brent Meeker

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Jun 9, 2022, 3:19:54 PMJun 9
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Natural selection in action.

Brent

John Clark

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Jun 9, 2022, 4:05:20 PMJun 9
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:08 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> I know lots and lots of conservatives who took the vaxes. I had vax 4 Pfizer a month ago.

I provide statistics, in rebuttal you provide personal anecdotes. And I don't know what the word "conservative" means anymore, at one time it meant somebody who wants to keep doing things the same way things have always been done in the past, but if that is the case then why do conservatives want to change the way society has handled abortions for the last half century?
 
> The question is
a) do the vaxes harm the young?

No.

b) are the vaccines less helpful after vax 2. 

Yes, that's why 2 shots are not enough, you need at least one booster shot, and 2 if you're over 60 or if you have a compromised immune system for some reason. 

> Hence the need for treatments above preventions, at this phase

So you think we should put the emphasis on saveing stupid people from themselves not on preventing healthy smart people from getting sick. But I think what we're observing is Evolution in action. 

> Meanwhile while we obsess about the US and your No.1 foe, the Reps, The Chinese Communist Party, may be heating things up in the Pacific,

The US Republican party, thanks to their virulent anti-scientific anti-vaccine campaign (vaccines cause autism, Bill Gates has placed secret microchips in Covid vaccine shots) , have killed far far more Americans than the Chinese Communist Party. And it was not the Chinese but the US Republican Party that staged a coup d'état on January 6, 2021 that if successful would have destroyed the US Constitution, nullified the 2020 election, and crowned King Donald the first as the absolute ruler of the land. And please tell me why breaking a  250 year tradition concerning the peaceful transfer of power is "conservative".

 
> Orange man had Covid and is still walking around giving speeches.

Yes, and that is definitive proof that there is no God.  
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The Scientific American article in which JC quoted was a bit more nuanced then presented (I stumbled across it by accident), and it does cross ethnic lines for those who refuse the vax. Following through on this conjecture, let it be stated that the brightest have low birth rate performance, compounded with "Saving the Earth," from overpopulation & the climate, while the low i.q. may suffer mortality from Covid, but still out-breed the effete big brains, and win the day. 

That's how Sir Darwin works. Successful adaptation traits win, or what's Dawkins sez. 


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Very briefly, "God," must do as you say, or there's no god. Understandable Buddy, I often feeling your pain!

The Republican Coup' is not sellable to the large majority of the people who dwell on the continent as there is lack of evidence, and there is lack of sufficient evidence (going by your explanation) is that Trumpo is so stupid, that he cannot even perform a proper, Coup d' Etat. :-D  Two plus years later and there are two things evidential here:

1) Trump did not lose the election from what anyone Judicial could call fraud. I am still awaiting the evidence beyond sitting through Dinesh D'Souza's presentation. Like the guy, but lets cut the shit and show me mass vote fraud that went against state and federal election laws?

2) No Coup, because it was a setup by the FBI and Justice Department as a honey trap on Facebook. This is how they work, legal entrapment. 

You need to let lose of your purse strings Mr. Social Darwinist :-D and make a profit funding for those who don't like the idea of being killed, potentially by the vax, but are good for smoking the virus away by treatment, of again, making a profit from Pharma that sells treatments to the Hospital Groups $$$ And you call yourself a capitalist!!! Tsk!

May Yog Sothoth forgive you.


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John Clark

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 6:40 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> and there is lack of sufficient evidence (going by your explanation) is that Trumpo is so stupid, that he cannot even perform a proper, Coup d' Etat.
 
There is an ocean of evidence that Trump is dumb as a brick, and months before the 2016 election I publicly predicted that if he won in 2016 he would stage a coup d'état to stay in power if he lost the 2020 election, and events proved me to be absolutely correct. Trump has only one great virtue, he is stupid, my great fear is that the next Mussolini wannabe will be just as evil as Trump but much smarter, somebody like Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley.

>  No Coup, because it was a setup by the FBI and Justice Department as a honey trap on Facebook.

So I guess even Trump had to take orders from the FBI, so when they ordered him to send a tweet telling his minions to come to Washington on January 6 and to give a speech on the morning of that day commanding them to march on the capital Trump saluted the FBI and shouted SIR YES SIR

Spud, if anyone ever wants evidence that you live deep inside a reality distortion field all one would need to do would be to point to the above quote of yours.

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Philip Benjamin

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[Philip Benjamin]

    There is a complete lack of respect for the basic laws of logic here. It is like reading the “Origin of Species” by Darwin (which I did around 1955, with origin mentioned ONLY in the title and the rest is boring descriptive narratives every bit forgotten. The WAP conveniently omits the full title “by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favored Races [Racism] in the Struggle for Life). He justified racism in the subsequent work “The descent of Man. Among Darwinian “scientific”  proposals were “the elimination of "the negro and Australian peoples,", considered savage races with continual survival impeding the progress of civilization! Though he claimed innumerable examples of transitional species, NOT ONE SINGLE example of a trans-speciated species is ever found neither in the numerous fossils nor in the living. Bacteria always remained (or evolved into) bacteria, so did all other species. Species continuity is the rule.

   Death of necessity has to follow life. What is the cause of death? Life cannot be an answer. What is the cause of life? What is more rational, aseity of LIFE or of DEAD MATTER? That is where critical thinking comes, which is forbidden by the Marxist, globalist WAMP-the-Ingrate. As for aseity, is that of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles as evidenced by Augustinian transformation, Reformation,  and the “Two Great Awakenings” or something else is for history and experience to prove.

Philip Benjamin  

   

spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> Friday, June 10, 2022 meeke...@gmail.com; everyth...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The correlation between belief in Trump and death

The Scientific American article in which JC quoted was a bit more nuanced then presented (I stumbled across it by accident), and it does cross ethnic lines for those who refuse the vax. Following through on this conjecture, let it be stated that the brightest have low birth rate performance, compounded with "Saving the Earth," from overpopulation & the climate, while the low i.q. may suffer mortality from Covid, but still out-breed the effete big brains, and win the day. 

 

That's how Sir Darwin works. Successful adaptation traits win, or what's Dawkins sez. 

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Natural selection in action.

Brent

On 6/9/2022 8:38 AM, John Clark wrote:

In looking over the Internet I found some interesting statistics. At the start of the Covid epidemic, before the vaccine was invented, the death rate for black Americans was much higher than that of white Americans, but that is no longer true; today the death rate for white Americans is 14% higher than for black Americans. In another statistic that I think is related, in 2020 Trump only got 46% of the popular vote but 57% of white Americans voted for Trump and it was 63% among non-college educated white voters,  and to this day 53% of Republicans believe Donald Trump when he says he won the 2020 election and is the true president of the USA. Even before the epidemic Trump contributed to the anti-scientific anti-vaccine hysteria by claiming that vaccinations cause autism, so it's not surprising that only 56% of Republicans are vaccinated as compared to 70% of Independents and 92% of Democrats. It's also not surprising that the Covid death rate in states that voted for Trump was 38% higher than the death rate in states that voted for Biden. If you look county by county 326 people per 100,000 died of Covid in counties that Trump won versus only 258 in counties  Biden won,  and the top 10% reddest pro-Trump counties died at a rate that was 6 times higher than the top 10% bluest pro-Biden counties.
 

So there is a clear correlation between belief in Trump and death, but I am unsure which is a cause and which is an effect, I don't know if white people believe in Trump because they're stupid or belief in Trump makes white people stupid. Either way Trump worship has become a death cult. 

 

 John K Clark   

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Philip Benjamin

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[Philip Benjamin]

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/  

As of January 2021 “The Evil” Administration’s “EVIL” Accomplishments:

        There are MULTIPLE HUNDREDS of these “evil  actions”, energy independence being one--  including an “abominable” $1.50/gallon at the pump! Over 6,000 “EVIL” biproducts of petroleum industries including the “vile” fertilizers for the “vilely” plentiful and affordable agricultural products including “baby formulae”. No solar panel or wind turbine can supply even one of them!!! It is also likely that the “evil” Ukraine might have been left alone (only Marxist pagan movers and shakers with un-awakened consciousness--  or bio dark matter bodies-- could happily enable annexation of Crimea). Throughout history there were the duped generations who called good evil and evil good, e.g. Comrade Stalin the Beloved; Hitler the Beloved Fuhrer,  god-Nero etc.

    Isaiah 5:20. “Woe to those [Marxist, globalist WAMP-the-Ingrate] who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”

Philip Benjamin

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Lawrence Crowell

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Well by saying you read Darwin's "Origin of Species" in 1955 reveals your age a bit. It also suggest the cause of your bizarre writing is dementia. 

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By the way, this new neurobiology study is out indicating that vitamin D reduces the risk for dementia prominently.

For medinuclear, I do read European history nearly every day and am busy downloading history on it because I find the info on peasant life fascinating, their religion, their beliefs, their housing, their farming, their arts, writings, medicine, war making. I have no excuse or given reason why either? Some people are just plain, weird. Your scatalogical post a while ago I chose not to respond to cuz, basically I figured it'd end up in a fight about cleanliness, and who washed daily and who did not? In the UK in centuries past, there were bathhouses with the concept brought back from the Crusaders, who rediscovered the ancient Greco-Roman habit of bathing in bathhouses, from the Byzantines & Muslims they encountered. The British of centuries past called them Stews. As in to stew in a hot bath. Scatalogically speaking that is. 


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John Clark

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> I do read European history nearly every day

If you're a student of history then I just don't understand why you don't see the dangers in Fascism and the blindingly obvious connection between Trumpism and Fascism, especially in a post January 6  2021 world.

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You are ignoring the funders of the democratic party, Wall Street execs. These are the woke boards of directors laying down bribe money for campaigns. We do it as well, just never enough to make it an equal social battle. Its a fascist system economically, savvy, a plutocracy JC. We can continue to pick this to pieces for examples of who is worse? Don was a traditional republican and they used to be like the old democrats, nationalists. Today? Globalists aka China-Facing companies happy to have Comrade Xi in power. 

Major Study Finds the US Is an Oligarchy (businessinsider.com)

No, I don't know how to fix this problem. 


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John Clark

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> You are ignoring the funders of the democratic party, Wall Street execs. These are the woke boards of directors laying down bribe money for campaigns.

That is just the standard Mickey Mouse level of corruption that has been going on for the last 250 years in this country,  and thousands of years before that in every country that has ever existed; we certainly know that Donald Trump is not above giving a bribe or two if he thinks it will help him get his way. What is new is that out of the 46 people who have been President of the United States only one of them opposed the peaceful transfer of power and tried to stay in office after his term expired and, thanks to his fascist friends and allies, his coup d'état almost succeeded. And that's why history will consider Donald Trump to be a far more damaging traitor than Benedict Arnold could ever have hoped to be.  

Or would it be OK with you if on January 6, 2025 Joe Biden ordered Kamala Harris to nullify the 2024 election and simply declare that Joe Biden was president and she was vice president even though they lost both the popular vote and the electoral vote by a substantial margin? Was Vice President Al Gore a fool not to declare himself the president on January 6  2021, after all he could've made a stronger case then Mike Pence could have,  Al Gore won the popular vote, he was the man the American people wanted as President, but Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and in 2020 lost it by 7 million votes and even lost in the bullshit electoral college.  Are you really trying to tell me you don't see how setting a legal precedent of ignoring election results and giving the power of deciding who the next president should be to the vice president even if that vice president is on the ballot he's deciding could lead to abuse? 

 > Don was a traditional republican

No he is not! Donald Trump is unique, there has been nobody in this country's history like him.  In 1974 when the Watergate tapes were made public and there was proof that all the bad things people had been saying about Nixon were true traditional Republicans in Congress, by an overwhelming majority, insisted that Nixon must resign or be impeached and convicted. And unlike Trump, even Nixon, being a traditional Republican, didn't try to stage a coup d'état to stay in power.
  
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