FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

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Philip Benjamin

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Nov 21, 2020, 10:11:43 AM11/21/20
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Subject: RE: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

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[Serge Patlavskiy] Unlike you, I am not a racist and do not divide people into whites, blacks, or purples. I divide people into those who are able to think rationally and for those who aren't. Persuasion to endorse the results of elections by brute force and by threatening the family members has nothing to do with democracy.

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There are obviously “rational” persons, never needing obscenities or peremptory ad hominems (provoked ones are sometimes excusable) which is very much unlike the patented behavior of WAMP-the-Ingrate -- Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism). There are only two kinds of PERSONS.  They are not Liberal/Progressive or Conservative/Traditionalists. Rather they have Awakened (Augustinian) Transformed consciousness or they have Un-awakened, kundalini/reptilian consciousness. One category is pagan and the other non-pagan. Augustine was once a profligate Phoenician pagan (of Greco-Roman roots). According to his CONFESSIONS (autobiography) he was transformed (“accidentally”) by the Scriptures through the Spirit [of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural)] into a non-pagan. That helped him to baptize metaphorical Platonism into Scriptural norms and thus pull the West away from Greco-Roman paganism. He thus became the chief architect (and still remains so) of a civilization that pursued REALITIES, not metaphysical metaphors, which eventually created an atmosphere conducive to modern science and technology, not vice versa. WAMP-the-Ingrate is the beneficiary of that.

     While there are no (and cannot be) cultural pagans (only REAL pagans), there are cultural non-pagans who for all practical purposes are Augustinian in their thought forms and behavioral patterns, but not NECESSARILY transformed in the Augustinian sense. The clash today in the Augustinian West in general and the Puritan America in particular is between paganism and non-paganism (real and cultural), not Liberals vs Conservative nor Progressive Vs Traditionalists (which are only manifestations or reflections of paganism and non-paganism.

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Nov 21, 2020, 4:49:26 PM11/21/20
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Besides being an idiot, what would you guys  a person who is a pragmatist, a militant one, a utilitarian like Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, and see's engineering (science & technology) as a first go to, in solution of a problem? I consider myself to be this kind of creature, simply because I believe it to yield actual solutions to actual problems. I am less and less troubled by somebody being a racist the older I get, even though my blood relatives went up adolf's chimneys. I am more persuaded by the question is, can he or she look past our own bigotry and hatreds, to come to a deal that would alleviate the big problems of today?

Yeah, I know I don't matter as an individual, but applying utilitarianism seems to produce the best outcomes (medical phrase). So, can we say, for example, that we spend cash on R&D for covid, not because we love each other, but because we can make life (for ourselves and kin) better? Can we, if it is decided as accurate, go big for solar and batteries, if this lightens the climate load and produces abundant electricity??  That kind of thing. My fix for abortion is embryo-fetus transfer since it nows seems workable. This would bypass literally anti-abortionists and pro-abortion thinking. A womb with a view.

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Lawrence Crowell

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Nov 22, 2020, 7:49:35 AM11/22/20
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This thread of posts is really bizarre and borders on some sort of Twilight Zone form of madness.

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Why not head back into your self-imposed ghetto Lawrence? Or is this a control thing with you? 


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