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    What is all this ballyhoo about Sabbath in the US Senate?  A matter of “awakened or un-awakened INVISIBLE consciousness? If so, what is a valid candidate for this “invisible matter” other than bio dark-matter with its bio dark-matter chemistry? Just as light-matter bodies (compounds with chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) are electric entropic and decaying, dark-matter bodies (with chemical bonds) are non-electric, nonentropic and undying. They may be made of dark particles of negligible mass with respect to electrons. The “light” and “dark” twins are formed at the very moment of conception. The Augustinian transformation is then about the invisible “dark” twin (https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html).

     History matters for science also. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/sunday-closing-laws.  According to Cornell University (a citadel of Progressivism, Paganism, globalism etc.): “The history of Sunday Closing Laws goes back into United States colonial history and far back into English history.202 Commonly, the laws require the observance of the Christian Sabbath as a day of rest, although in recent years they have tended to become honeycombed with exceptions. The Supreme Court rejected an Establishment Clause challenge to Sunday Closing Laws in McGowan v. Maryland.203 The Court acknowledged that historically the laws had a religious motivation and were designed to effectuate concepts of Christian theology.” Each of the English colonies had its own Denominational Constitution and was more or less self-governed. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/17/.   The Constitution was "Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the States present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth."

       The early Christian Church was almost 100% Jewish who fervently observed sabbath as the seventh day. It had taken an earthshaking event as Resurrection of the Messiah for observant Jews to change from the Seventh to the First Day as Sabbath Worship Day (Acts 20:7). The very concept of a Five Day work week is a Biblical practice. Unlike the lunar month or solar year there is no “earthly” (planetary) basis for seven day week. It is a uniquely Biblical principle with Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur.        

     Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper. Not found in KJV where heathen, foreign, gentile etc. are used instead. Suppose the founding population was 98.8% Atheist-humanist, 0.2% Animists and 1% Zoroastrians, what could have been the nature of their Constitution? Any Bill of Rights possible at all? What kind of civilization could that be? Could there ever be a Senator FREE to express oneself? Could it have survived even for ten years as the French Revolution (1789 to 1799)? Or the Bolshevik Revolution and the resulting Soviet Empire (74 years, 1917 - 1991)?  Now the reality is that the founding population was 98% Protestant, 1% Catholic and 0.2% Jewish whom the Koran terms people of the Book. Church-State-Separation is a Stare decisis legal doctrine first instituted by a KKK Supreme Court Justice (against Catholic Schools), as indicated by Jim Lindgren, a law professor at Northwestern, https://blog.acton.org/archives/64017-kkk-got-way-separation-church-state.html. Justice Hugo Black and his 1947 opinion in Everson v. Board of Education. https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/honors/315/).      

        Greco-Roman civilization was based on pagan polytheistic superstitions and legends. Phoenician profligate and scholarly pagan  

Augustine (3 rd- 4-th Century) after his “instant transformation” and intellectual renewal changed the course of Western Civilization into a non-pagan culture (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine; https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/augstines-account-of-his-conversion/). He “baptized” Platonism into Scriptural norms (similar to Acts 17:23-28 where at Athenian Mars Hill, Rabbi Saul of Tarsus identified the Greco-Roman unknown god with the his known Resurrected Messiah of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural). WAMP-the-Ingrate is the stealing beneficiary of that Augustinian Trust which through the Reformation, Wesleyan Revivals and the Puritan “Two Great Awakenings” produced the Non Sovereign Federation of the Sovereign States of America—not by Marxist-socialist-Fascist- Progressive New Age, Tao, TM, Yoga, occultism, Jungian sorceries etc. WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).

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Notes: https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9gqb/a-gop-senator-lectured-chuck-schumer-about-the-sabbath-to-defend-voter-suppression

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has a message for Republicans hoping to ban Sunday voting: My sabbath is on Saturday.

The Majority Leader, who is Jewish, pushed back hard after Sen. Cindy Hyde Smith (R-Miss.) suggested it violates God’s law to allow early voting on Sunday…. “I don’t know where to begin other than reminding my colleagues of the separation of church and state,” Schumer told Fox News on Thursday.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gop-senator-tells-schumer-the-sabbath-is-on-sunday/

GOP senator tells Schumer: The Sabbath is on Sunday Cindy Hyde-Smith cites Exodus verse to explain why Georgia Republicans want to end voting on Sundays By RON KAMPEAS 25 March 2021,

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/06/politics/trump-impeachment-lawyer-pause-trial-for-jewish-sabbath/index.html 

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's office said Saturday the Senate will accommodate a request from one of former President Donald Trump's impeachment attorneys [David Schoen] to halt Trump's impeachment trial during the Jewish Sabbath.

 

Philip Benjamin Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:11 PM   Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] pagans vs non pagans

 

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    Paganism hates FREEDOMs which Non-paganism considers as birthrights.

1 . https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-end-of-conservative-books-amazon-quietly-bans-books-they-deem-offensive-hate-speech

     “The End Of Conservative Books’: Amazon Quietly Bans Books They Deem Offensive, ‘Hate Speech’

By  Amanda Prestigiacomo  Feb 27, 2021   DailyWire.com

2.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-s-why-social-media-ban-on-trump-conservatives-will-only-make-things-worse/

      Here's why social media ban on Trump, conservatives will only make things worse. By Joe Concha, Opinion Contributor —

     01/11/21

3 . https://www.unitedvoice.com/social-media-bans-popular-conservatives/ Social Media Bans Popular Conservatives

Joe Concha, Opinion Contributor  1/11/2021

4 .   Using the No-Fly List and social media bans against conservatives is no way to move forward by Sabtain Ali          

       https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/using-the-no-fly-list-and-social-media-bans-against-conservatives-is-no-way-          

       to-move-forward  

5 .   Liberal Media Scream: CNN wants conservative media squelched in 'national emergency'

        by Paul Bedard 

6.    Power-Drunk Democrats Join CNN In Lobbying To Ban Fox News From The Airwaves

       JANUARY 8, 2021 By Jordan Davidson

7 .  https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/08/power-drunk-democrats-join-cnn-in-lobbying-to-ban-fox-news-from-the-airwaves/

8 .   https://www.halseynews.com/2021/01/18/cnn-wants-to-eliminate-american-conservative-media-options/ CNN Wants to     

       Eliminate American Conservative Media   Options  By Alex  Roberts -January 18, 20211169

9 .    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/books/simon-schuster-josh-hawley-book.htmlSimon & Schuster Cancels Plans for Senator   

        Hawley’s Book  By Elizabeth A. Harris and Alexandra Alter     Published Jan. 7, 2021

10 .  https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/media/josh-hawley-book-canceled/index.html     Sen. Josh Hawley's book canceled by  

         publisher citing 'deadly insurrection' at Capitol building

 

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Cathy,

 

You are quite right;  since we keep hearing from the Republicans they are not being censored.  Still, something has certainly gone wrong with media, at least in the US.  Consider the horrific event of censorship that happened in January without any noticeable objection:  A handful of rich men decided that the President of the United States could no longer communicate with his voters.  The argument that he might be insane or criminal, or both, only demonstrates their negligence for letting him abuse their platforms in the first place.  In fact,  he won election with the help of lies published by those same platforms. The owners give new words to their censorship, "deplatform",  "demonetize",  "suspend",  or just "take down",  but despite the "new speak",  they manipulate and control public opinion in a totalitarian manner.

 

Would it be possible to model, mathematically, the effects of these new "social media" as opposed to traditional publishers, on the stability and desirable characteristics of a society?  "System Dynamics" models the marketability of new products and even politicians.  Could the same differential equations model the spread of truth versus lies,  and the popularity of dangerous intentions?  The legal frameworks governing "social" and traditional publications are quite different, at least in the USA.  These special laws will come under review, eventually, as even the owners themselves now call for changes.  Mathematical models to predict the effect of legislation would be interesting and probably useful.  Is it possible?

 

Harland

 

 

 

Le samedi 20 mars 2021 à 08:59:20 UTC−7, 'Cathy Reason' via Consciousness-Online <general...@googlegroups.com> a écrit :

 

 

Philip:

 

Erik Larson March 19, 2021 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-19/conservative-judge-calls-media-an-anti-gop-threat-to-democracy. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9382047
 “US Circuit Judge Laurence H. Silberman warns the current state of media is 'a threat to a viable democracy' . A federal judge called for a landmark Supreme Court decision on freedom of the press and libel laws to be overturned in a fiery dissent decrying "bias against the Republican Party," blasting the near "one-party control" of legacy news media, slamming Silicon Valley's censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story, and warning that the current state.”

 

Somehow, the obvious keeps getting overlooked.  If these people's right op free speech were being infringed in the way they constantly claim, then we would not continually be hearing them say so.

 

 

Cathy

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[Philip Benjamin]       
    What is all this ballyhoo about Sabbath in the US Senate?  A matter of “awakened or un-awakened INVISIBLE consciousness? If so, what is a valid candidate for this “invisible matter” other than bio dark-matter with its bio dark-matter chemistry? Just as light-matter bodies (compounds with chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) are electric entropic and decaying, dark-matter bodies (with chemical bonds) are non-electric, nonentropic and undying. They may be made of dark particles of negligible mass with respect to electrons. The “light” and “dark” twins are formed at the very moment of conception. The Augustinian transformation is then about the invisible “dark” twin (https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html).
     History matters for science also. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/sunday-closing-laws.  According to Cornell University (a citadel of Progressivism, Paganism, globalism etc.): “The history of Sunday Closing Laws goes back into United States colonial history and far back into English history.202 Commonly, the laws require the observance of the Christian Sabbath as a day of rest, although in recent years they have tended to become honeycombed with exceptions. The Supreme Court rejected an Establishment Clause challenge to Sunday Closing Laws in McGowan v. Maryland.203 The Court acknowledged that historically the laws had a religious motivation and were designed to effectuate concepts of Christian theology.” Each of the English colonies had its own Denominational Constitution and was more or less self-governed. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/17/.   The Constitution was "Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the States present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth."
       The early Christian Church was almost 100% Jewish who fervently observed sabbath as the seventh day. It had taken an earthshaking event as Resurrection of the Messiah for observant Jews to change from the Seventh to the First Day as Sabbath Worship Day (Acts 20:7). The very concept of a Five Day work week is a Biblical practice. Unlike the lunar month or solar year there is no “earthly” (planetary) basis for seven day week. It is a uniquely Biblical principle with Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur.        
     Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper. 


Interesting. Are you sure of that etymology? The Neoplatonists were called “pagan” by christians, but they were those doubting Aristotle’s belief in primary matter, and many of them where immaterialist, and quite the opposite of the earth worshippers”.

Weak Materialism (the belief in a primary, or primitively material, physical universe) is logically contradictory with Digital Mechanism. 
Digital Mechanism makes easier to explain the physical laws from a statistics on relative digital machine’s or number’s first person self-reference than by any ontological commitment (like some primary Aristotelian “Matter”).

If “pagan” is Earth or Matter worshipping, then Mechanism is at the extreme opposite of Pagan. Only numbers exists *fundamentally*, the rest is a sort of Darwinian consciousness selection on the consistent histories brought by the computations, which we know to be realised in arithmetic since the key works by logicians in the 1930s.

We cannot assume more than very elementary arithmetic. 

And, obviously, religion should not be mixed with the state (even more so in a democracy). That is why theology must come back at the academy of science. The separation from science was the first step to let it mixed with politics and state.

Bruno







Not found in KJV where heathen, foreign, gentile etc. are used instead. Suppose the founding population was 98.8% Atheist-humanist, 0.2% Animists and 1% Zoroastrians, what could have been the nature of their Constitution? Any Bill of Rights possible at all? What kind of civilization could that be? Could there ever be a Senator FREE to express oneself? Could it have survived even for ten years as the French Revolution (1789 to 1799)? Or the Bolshevik Revolution and the resulting Soviet Empire (74 years, 1917 - 1991)?  Now the reality is that the founding population was 98% Protestant, 1% Catholic and 0.2% Jewish whom the Koran terms people of the Book. Church-State-Separation is a Stare decisis legal doctrine first instituted by a KKK Supreme Court Justice (against Catholic Schools), as indicated by Jim Lindgren, a law professor at Northwestern, https://blog.acton.org/archives/64017-kkk-got-way-separation-church-state.html. Justice Hugo Black and his 1947 opinion in Everson v. Board of Education.https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/honors/315/).      

 “US Circuit Judge Laurence H. Silberman warns the current state of media is 'a threat to a viable democracy' . A federal judge called for a landmark Supreme Court decision on freedom of the press and libel laws to be overturned in a fiery dissent decrying "bias against the Republican Party," blasting the near "one-party control" of legacy news media, slamming Silicon Valley's censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story, and warning that the current state.”
 
Somehow, the obvious keeps getting overlooked.  If these people's right op free speech were being infringed in the way they constantly claim, then we would not continually be hearing them say so.
 
 
Cathy
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[Bruno Marchal]

“PPB: Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper”. “Interesting. Are you sure of that etymology? The Neoplatonists were called “pagan” by christians, but they were those doubting Aristotle’s belief in primary matter, and many of them where immaterialist, and quite the opposite of the earth worshippers….. We cannot assume more than very elementary arithmetic. And, obviously, religion should not be mixed with the state (even more so in a democracy). That is why theology must come back at the academy of science. The separation from science was the first step to let it mixed with politics and state”.

[Philip Benjamin]

The following link gives a more elaborate etymology of PAGAN: https://www.etymonline.com/word/pagan.  The GAIA (EARTH) implications are self-evident. Invisible need not anymore be considered immaterial. Dark-matter and its possible compounds are invisible, but not immaterial, though here the dark particles are assumed to be of negligible mass with respect to electrons. America is not a mere Democracy it is first a Republic, then democratic alright. In a Republic the individual with the law on his side is a “sovereign”, a concept unknown to most of the pagan world with un-awakened kundalini consciousness. here the atheist , the pantheist, polytheist, monotheist, atheist and EVERYBODY has an equal right to the dictates of one’s conscience within the commonsensically acceptable community standards and laws. Equal right under the law does not mean equality in essence. No laws can make un-equals equals. In this Republic one does not have to leave one’s personal beliefs at the door of any office or institution. Only the Marxist-Socialist-Fascist- Progressive PAGANS with un-Augustinian un-awakened consciousness will force such brutal laws on a “sovereign” citizen.  

Philosophy, religion and science have a common unsolvable problem centered around causality and aseity. Only Biblical Theology starts with an imperative statement without any apology: “ In the beginning Elohim..”, later amplified as Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural). It is MORE scientific to deal with the aseity of LIFE than that of dead matter.

Philip Benjamin   

      

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On 26 Mar 2021, at 21:13, Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

[Philip Benjamin]       

    What is all this ballyhoo about Sabbath in the US Senate?  A matter of “awakened or un-awakened INVISIBLE consciousness? If so, what is a valid candidate for this “invisible matter” other than bio dark-matter with its bio dark-matter chemistry? Just as light-matter bodies (compounds with chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) are electric entropic and decaying, dark-matter bodies (with chemical bonds) are non-electric, nonentropic and undying. They may be made of dark particles of negligible mass with respect to electrons. The “light” and “dark” twins are formed at the very moment of conception. The Augustinian transformation is then about the invisible “dark” twin (https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html).

     History matters for science also. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/sunday-closing-laws.  According to Cornell University (a citadel of Progressivism, Paganism, globalism etc.): “The history of Sunday Closing Laws goes back into United States colonial history and far back into English history………………..

Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper

 

 

[Bruno Marchal]. “Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper”. Interesting. Are you sure of that etymology? The Neoplatonists were called “pagan” by christians, but they were those doubting Aristotle’s belief in primary matter, and many of them where immaterialist, and quite the opposite of the earth worshippers”.

 

Weak Materialism (the belief in a primary, or primitively material, physical universe) is logically contradictory with Digital Mechanism. 

Digital Mechanism makes easier to explain the physical laws from a statistics on relative digital machine’s or number’s first person self-reference than by any ontological commitment (like some primary Aristotelian “Matter”).

 

If “pagan” is Earth or Matter worshipping, then Mechanism is at the extreme opposite of Pagan. Only numbers exists *fundamentally*, the rest is a sort of Darwinian consciousness selection on the consistent histories brought by the computations, which we know to be realised in arithmetic since the key works by logicians in the 1930s.

 

We cannot assume more than very elementary arithmetic. 

 

And, obviously, religion should not be mixed with the state (even more so in a democracy). That is why theology must come back at the academy of science. The separation from science was the first step to let it mixed with politics and state.

 

Bruno

 

 

 

 

 

 



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[Bruno Marchal]
“PPB: Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper”. “Interesting. Are you sure of that etymology? The Neoplatonists were called “pagan” by christians, but they were those doubting Aristotle’s belief in primary matter, and many of them where immaterialist, and quite the opposite of the earth worshippers….. We cannot assume more than very elementary arithmetic. And, obviously, religion should not be mixed with the state (even more so in a democracy). That is why theology must come back at the academy of science. The separation from science was the first step to let it mixed with politics and state”.
[Philip Benjamin]
The following link gives a more elaborate etymology of PAGAN: https://www.etymonline.com/word/pagan


OK. Thank you.



The GAIA (EARTH) implications are self-evident.

Only in our Aristotelian frame. I am agnostic, personally, on such impersonal god. I tend to be skeptical, and I can prove that this hypothesis makes no sense, even if we assume just the amount of mechanism to be able to attribute an explanative power to the theory of evolution.

Despite a widespread confusion between Mechanism and Materialism, those are logically incompatible. If I can survive with a digital brain, physics is reduced to the statistic on all computations in arithmetic, structured by the (Gödel-Löb-Solovay) laws of self-reference.




Invisible need not anymore be considered immaterial. Dark-matter and its possible compounds are invisible, but not immaterial, though here the dark particles are assumed to be of negligible mass with respect to electrons.


Mechanism leads to Plato. What we see, observe, measure is empirically real, but is not primary, and is not material. 





America is not a mere Democracy it is first a Republic, then democratic alright. In a Republic the individual with the law on his side is a “sovereign”, a concept unknown to most of the pagan world with un-awakened kundalini consciousness. here the atheist , the pantheist, polytheist, monotheist, atheist and EVERYBODY has an equal right to the dictates of one’s conscience within the commonsensically acceptable community standards and laws. Equal right under the law does not mean equality in essence. No laws can make un-equals equals. In this Republic one does not have to leave one’s personal beliefs at the door of any office or institution. Only the Marxist-Socialist-Fascist- Progressive PAGANS with un-Augustinian un-awakened consciousness will force such brutal laws on a “sovereign” citizen.  

Theology must just come back tp the faculty of science, where we can say “we don’t know, but here is the theory and here is the method to empirically refute it”.




Philosophy, religion and science have a common unsolvable problem centered around causality and aseity.


I think it is solved in the mechanist theory, or directly in the theology of the (rich, Löbian) machine. I recall that I call Löbian, the machine which are Turing universal, and believe in enough (sigma_1) induction. R and Q are not Löbian, but PA, ZF, … are. In the ontology, there is no causality different than the material implication (p -> q is the same as not p or q). Then, many phenomenology for causality appears: one for each variants of provability imposed by incompleteness. 



Only Biblical Theology starts with an imperative statement without any apology: “ In the beginning Elohim..”, later amplified as Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural). It is MORE scientific to deal with the aseity of LIFE than that of dead matter.


OK. But probably not for the reason you allude to. With mechanism, there is no “dead matter”, as there is no matter at all. But you might object that there are “dead numbers”, and indeed, any number, when insulated from the other numbers, can be seen as a dead thing. Consciousness comes from the (true) partial computable number relations.

Freedom of religion is a non sense/ It leads to the freedom of fake religion, which are technic to steal the money of the people. We can tolerate only the religion consistent with our already accepted theories, or we will just install very intolerant people. We should have the right to sue a teacher who taught that 2+2=5, or that Earth is flat, or that cannabis is more dangerous than alcool. Freedom of religion is a freedom of lying. It is a subtle form of imposed barbarianism….

Bruno




Philip Benjamin   
      
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] pagans vs non pagans and the hubbub about Sabbath in the US Senate
On 26 Mar 2021, at 21:13, Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
[Philip Benjamin]       
    What is all this ballyhoo about Sabbath in the US Senate?  A matter of “awakened or un-awakened INVISIBLE consciousness? If so, what is a valid candidate for this “invisible matter” other than bio dark-matter with its bio dark-matter chemistry? Just as light-matter bodies (compounds with chemical bonds which are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets) are electric entropic and decaying, dark-matter bodies (with chemical bonds) are non-electric, nonentropic and undying. They may be made of dark particles of negligible mass with respect to electrons. The “light” and “dark” twins are formed at the very moment of conception. The Augustinian transformation is then about the invisible “dark” twin (https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html).
     History matters for science also. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/sunday-closing-laws.  According to Cornell University (a citadel of Progressivism, Paganism, globalism etc.): “The history of Sunday Closing Laws goes back into United States colonial history and far back into English history………………..
Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper
 
 
[Bruno Marchal]. “Pagan = Pan-Gaia-n, earthling, earth worshipper”. Interesting. Are you sure of that etymology? The Neoplatonists were called “pagan” by christians, but they were those doubting Aristotle’s belief in primary matter, and many of them where immaterialist, and quite the opposite of the earth worshippers”.
 
Weak Materialism (the belief in a primary, or primitively material, physical universe) is logically contradictory with Digital Mechanism. 
Digital Mechanism makes easier to explain the physical laws from a statistics on relative digital machine’s or number’s first person self-reference than by any ontological commitment (like some primary Aristotelian “Matter”).
 
If “pagan” is Earth or Matter worshipping, then Mechanism is at the extreme opposite of Pagan. Only numbers exists *fundamentally*, the rest is a sort of Darwinian consciousness selection on the consistent histories brought by the computations, which we know to be realised in arithmetic since the key works by logicians in the 1930s.
 
We cannot assume more than very elementary arithmetic. 
 
And, obviously, religion should not be mixed with the state (even more so in a democracy). That is why theology must come back at the academy of science. The separation from science was the first step to let it mixed with politics and state.
 
Bruno
 
 
 
 
 
 


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