RE: Understanding climate [was Re: AlphaZero]

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Good point here from Thomaz. Because models are models and they're only as good as their input and sometimes not even it as much as that. Simply for safety sake though I would presume that some kind of massive climate inundation is possible some kind of cycle of drought and storm simply because the Earth produces this all on its own and pumping carbon into the atmosphere ain't doing anything any good. Simply for safety sake I would go with a presumption that climate innovation or drought is entirely possible perhaps shockingly so! Having said that I think we should go solar and wind big time as a precaution along with batteries of course because damn it those two sources really need it. We have the development of perovskite solar cells and improved batteries so we should put these into application.


On Friday, February 4, 2022 Tomasz Rola <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 10:59:44AM -0800, Brent Meeker wrote:
> Well consider the example of climate. Nobody can grasp all factors
> in climate and their interactions. But we can model all of them in
> a global climate simulation.

Actually, as far as I can tell, we cannot. Or, you mean,
theoretically, sure, but in practice, I would say no, such model had
not been made yet.

If such model existed, it would give an answer about how/why the last
glaciation started and how/why it ended. But I understand such
answers were not given yet. Only speculations.

So, seems to me, whatever model we have, it cannot predict past
events. I would not bet any money on anything such model says about
other things.

> So climatologists+simulations "grasp the domain" even though humans
> can't.

Who are "climatologists"?

> Now suppose we want to extend these predictive climate models to
> include predictions about what humans will do in response. We don't
> know how humans will behave except in some general statistical
> terms.

And yet I can give you some good prediction. We use to do as small as
possible, for as long as possible. I predict this is not going to
change anytime soon. And not later either.

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