RE: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

[spudb...@aol.com]

Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression. It is no mistake that the most tyrannical of presidents Wilson and Obama arrived from the realm of professorship. I would add FDR and his internment camps, but he did free more peeps, than he imprisoned to say the least, so good on him. 

So what to do? My part is easy! Wait for errors on the side of the ruling class, that affects the middle class, and when enough uncorrected problems pile up, people, naturally will react. Repression from social media and the banks will be one thing that initiates a back-reaction (right outta optical physics).

If the Dems do well with economic recovery, then it will be sunny skies for them.  Once Kamala gets in gear, we will see what her leadership takes us?

On Saturday, January 16, 2021 Philip Benjamin <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

[John K Clark]

“No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say is a very unproductive thing to do”

[Philip Benjamin]

   There are hundreds if not thousands of instances to the contrary. Some are listed below. That is why I call these Universities WAMP—Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).

1.  https://www.thefire.org/10-worst-colleges-for-free-speech-2020/

2. https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/scientist-alleges-csun-fired-him-for-discovery-of-soft-tissue-on-dinosaur-fossil/  LOS       

     ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Attorneys for a California State University, Northridge scientist who was terminated from his job after discovering soft tissue on a triceratops fossil have filed a lawsuit against the university.

3. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/19kentucky.html

    Astronomer Sues the University of Kentucky, Claiming His Faith Cost Him a Job

4. https://www.christianpost.com/news/professor-fired-after-speech-opposing-puberty-blocking-drugs-sues-university.html

    A Psychiatry Professor fired after speech opposing puberty-blocking drugs sues university

5. https://mynewsla.com/crime/2021/01/11/chapman-professor-who-supports-trump-resists-calls-for-ouster/

    A Chapman University law professor who has come under fire for his election fraud claims and participation in a rally led by President Donald Trump just before the insurrection at the Capitol fought back Monday against critics who are calling for his ouster from the university

6. http://www.theevolutioncrisis.org.uk/testimony5.php

7. https://www.amazon.com/Expelled-Intelligence-Allowed-Ben-Stein/dp/B001BYLFFS

       Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... What they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben Stein (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns an awe-inspiring truth … that educators and scientists are being ridiculed, denied tenure and even fired – for the crime of merely believing that there might be evidence of design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the result of accidental, random chance. To which Ben Says: Enough! And then gets busy. NOBODY messes with Ben.

Philip Benjamin  

 

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

> For me, all I need to see is which companies are doing the censoring?

 

To censor someone you need the power to imprison or kill them if they say something you don't like, so no company is doing any censoring, some of them may want to but none of them are able to because only governments have enough power to do that. I'm not saying companies don't have any power at all because they do, and sometimes they use the power they do have unwisely, and that's a problem, but the solution is not to give even more power to the government because it already has quite enough power thank you. So what is the solution?  I don't know, there may not be one, there is not always a solution to every problem and that's why we live in an imperfect world and probably always will, but we should try to make the imperfections as small as possible. And if history has taught us anything it's that  giving even more power to the government, which is already the most powerful institution in our society, will not make the world perfect.

 

> Which universities are censoring for the "safety of the students"

 

No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say is a very unproductive thing to do. And I think the idea that university students are such delicate snowflakes that they need protection from harsh language or exposure to views different from their own is ridiculous; they're not gonna be in college for their entire life and sooner or later they're going to have to toughen up if they want to live in the real world. So that's a problem, but the world is full of problems and some of them we just have to live with. I know one thing for sure: a government edict banning such a practice would cause more problems than it solved.

 

> We had 7 months of sporadic riots and the liberals (which I sometimes side with) and now they freak out when conservatives targets the capital.

 

If you are not freaked out by a murderous mob of Stormtrumper zombies staging a coup d'état by attacking the Capital Building which contained the Vice President and every single member of the House and Senate in an attempt to overturn the Constitution of the USA and a free election to keep their "Dear Leader" in power indefinitely then there is something very seriously wrong with you!  

 

John K Clark.

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[Philip Benjamin]

  I agree with the post that “Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression”. I have given only seven instances among thousands!! Alost everyday they are EXPELLING or ostracizing somebody who happened to be truthful  but have findings in disagreement with their “fixations”.  Fanatic fixations to intangible un-evidential ideas and ideologies cause zealotry and bigotry. This is a psychological disorder that may eventually lead to personality disorder. In the Augustinian Western context, especially in the backdrop of the American “Two Great Awakenings” it is a very complex pagan [Pan-Gaia-n = earthling] manifestation of un-awakened, kundalini/reptilian consciousness. The one and ONLY remedy for that malady is an Augustinian Awakening in the academia and the media (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine). Those who have witnessed “spirit possessions” first hand attest that many of the body-languages (especially the quizzical eye movements) of the members of the Western Acade-Media Pagans (WAMP) correspond fully with symptoms of “spirit possessions”!!!!!  It has become a common cultural pattern.  Too bad. Too sad.

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[Bruno Marchal]

On 17 Jan 2021, at 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression.

Some universities are like that, with some degree. When I was young, there were some excellent course in philosophy alongside with course which were pure and simple propaganda.

Then even the math departement was politicised, after may 1968. You needed to be communist to be well seen by the geometers, to be socialist to be well seen by Algebraists,  and to be capitalist to be analyst (calculus). Well, not as clearcut at this, but that was in the air, and some student got bad note for not applauding some local ideology, which was outrageous,

Some have fight on this and win, others have fight and got many problems. It all depends on the character of many individuals, but of course, the pré-eminance of the human general law “the boss is right” does not help.

At least, in a working democracy, we can change the boss from time to time. That is a real progress, and perhaps the only one since Plato, in the human science.

It is no mistake that the most tyrannical of presidents Wilson and Obama arrived from the realm of professorship. I would add FDR and his internment camps, but he did free more peeps, than he imprisoned to say the least, so good on him. 

So what to do? My part is easy! Wait for errors on the side of the ruling class, that affects the middle class, and when enough uncorrected problems pile up, people, naturally will react. Repression from social media and the banks will be one thing that initiates a back-reaction (right outta optical physics).

If the Dems do well with economic recovery, then it will be sunny skies for them.  Once Kamala gets in gear, we will see what her leadership takes us?

Let us give them a chance. We will see.

Bruno

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[Lawrence Crowell]

On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 9:05:18 AM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:

       Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... What they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben Stein (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns an awe-inspiring truth … that educators and scientists are being ridiculed, denied tenure and even fired – for the crime of merely believing that there might be evidence of design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the result of accidental, random chance. To which Ben Says: Enough! And then gets busy. NOBODY messes with Ben.

Philip Benjamin  

That is good for a laugh. Ben Stein is an actor, he has no scientific credentials. He is also an arch right winger who supports anything that comes out of Faux News. 10 or 12 years ago he went on a silly crusade to "expose" how academics were losing positions for espousing creationism. If you are on the faculty of a biology department and espouse such things it should not be surprising you are refused tenure. In physics if somebody started to teach aether theory and rejected relativity much the same would happen. It could not happen any other way. 

This is not about censorship. First off, the first Amendment is not about how any organization has to allow anything said or published. It is just about how the Federal government cannot legislate against certain speech that is not meant to incite violence or slander. So this does mean you are not free to yell FIRE in a theater or to accuse somebody of things falsely. It does not mean that a scientific journal cannot reject a paper by some wannabe physicist who has their great unified field theory they are certain of. Get on Facebook to see tons of that crap. Knowledge is something distilled through a sieve, or better put a Bayesian regression that narrows things down as with the game of 20 questions. Thing that fail, well ---- they simply fail and are discarded.

Religion has failed utterly in allowing us to understand the world. The weltanschauung of religion has failed miserably; its track record of matching what is measured and knows is crummy. This includes biological evolution. It also fails with the whole idea of there being some designer. The Intelligent Design and Irreducible complexity arguments have failed the tests.

LC

[spudb...@aol.com]

If, as I have seen, Banks, and media providers, collude to defund people they disagree with, then this is organized censorship. I am thinking mass filings of lawsuits could be salutary. If the administrators of public universities encourage faculty members to urge protest and riot against invited speakers, then this is censorship. The practice is to organize supportive students to riot in favor of censoring an invite, and the call campus police in, because, magically, "It is not a safe environment for the students!" So, this is a tactic that will go on for a bit more under the new acien' regime, I expect because only a few loudmouth speakers are affected.

As long as there are alternative media platforms, Twits or FB can set their own policy, If they do like Apple and Amazon with eliminating platforms then most people, eventually, will likely have a problem. So, what then might be the inflection point for a fight against censorship, or rather the forces behind progressive censorship? My thinking is that when the new regime's policies achieve hyperinflation, increased unemployment, electricity blackouts start occurring regularly, gasoline prices go massively upwards, as does, food (sorry, Tesla no replacing 50 million gas buggies),  If the Kamala-Sue Rice leadership produces a prosperity, post 2nd Vax, then the skies are forever blue for Team, Progressive. It's axiomatic!  

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Bruno, I completely agree and will be delighted to be proven wrong, as thus, the new people (basically Obama's people) have a turn again at bat (US baseball reference). QANON, I ignored because they produced nothing useful, Basically, a disinformation campaign, and many of these in the past seemingly, were not all by the Soviets, the Chinese Communist Party, but were spun up by US advertising agencies. All in the name of psychological warfare.  

Here is my questions for the departed Orange President? Where is your evidence of massive, successful, voter fraud?

Since you had mentioned back in 2016 when you ran against Hillary, and quoted a study that indicated illegals in the US voting, you must have expected vote fraud, so why not take the steps to ensure that it would be difficult to conduct mass fraud??

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[Bruno Marchal]

On 21 Jan 2021, at 01:34, spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bruno, I completely agree and will be delighted to be proven wrong, as thus, the new people (basically Obama's people) have a turn again at bat (US baseball reference). QANON, I ignored because they produced nothing useful, Basically, a disinformation campaign, and many of these in the past seemingly, were not all by the Soviets, the Chinese Communist Party, but were spun up by US advertising agencies. All in the name of psychological warfare. 

I don’t think we can compare the lying propaganda (of the USSR for exemple) with the advertising in the US. Even the lies on drugs could be criticised, and the truth be known, like with the book of Jack Herer. He has not been sent in jail, nor his family get under threats. Threats in politics in something new in America, and seems to come up through Trump and those who enabled him. That is very grave, but, thank God, the US is still a democracy. But the Republican Party is very sick, that is what we can say.

 

Here is my questions for the departed Orange President? Where is your evidence of massive, successful, voter fraud?

Since you had mentioned back in 2016 when you ran against Hillary,

I ran for nobody. After one week of Trump’s campaign I predicted (wrongly) that he would not get more than one vote. I am vey naïve, but once he promised he would show his taxes, I knew he was a crook. I am a republican, just horrified by Donald Trump and most of his acolytes. For me you can put Trump at the extreme left. You need this to lick Putin and Kim-Young-Un feet...

and quoted a study that indicated illegals in the US voting, you must have expected vote fraud, so why not take the steps to ensure that it would be difficult to conduct mass fraud??

The election in the US are very well organised. To have mass fraud is basically impossible. You would need thousands of democrats becoming (fake) member of the Republican Party. At this hours, we would have many whistleblowers using some doubt, at the least. But none of this occur, and no people witnessing frauds have maintained their claim under oath. I think, with Crebs, that: those were the most secure election ever made on the planet.

Now, the facts that republicans continue to fear Trump worry me. They will lose the election and the honour, and that’s the best case scenario for the US.

Bruno

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