Andrei Linde on consciousness

[David Nyman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc89m2SaOAc&feature=youtu.be

[Brent Meeker]

Interesting interview (I wonder where it was...CERN?).  Linde makes leap though from the Hamiltonian of the universe is zero to we need consciosness to explain change.  He considers having an instrument record events, but then he says he must become conscious of the recording.  That doesn't follow.  Most treatments of this problem, which comes up in all QM because "time" is not an operator, resolve it by relating QM system states to a QM clock.  Anything functioning as a clock will serve to record the rest of the universe as changing.  If some interesting conclusion is to be drawn from this, I'd say that it is that perception of time order is essential to consciousness...so that it can act as a clock.

Brent

On 9/25/2017 7:35 AM, David Nyman wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc89m2SaOAc&feature=youtu.be

[Bruno Marchal]

On 26 Sep 2017, at 20:14, Brent Meeker wrote:

Interesting interview (I wonder where it was...CERN?).  Linde makes leap though from the Hamiltonian of the universe is zero to we need consciosness to explain change.  He considers having an instrument record events, but then he says he must become conscious of the recording.  That doesn't follow.  Most treatments of this problem, which comes up in all QM because "time" is not an operator, resolve it by relating QM system states to a QM clock.  Anything functioning as a clock will serve to record the rest of the universe as changing.  If some interesting conclusion is to be drawn from this, I'd say that it is that perception of time order is essential to consciousness...so that it can act as a clock.

I agree on this. 

His approach also presuppose some physical universe, and that cannot work if our bodies are Turing emulable. In that frame, it is possible that time would be need for consciousness, but with mechanism, even that is not guarantied.

Bruno

Brent

On 9/25/2017 7:35 AM, David Nyman wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc89m2SaOAc&feature=youtu.be

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