Zero-totality

[Eva]

Hello

I want to talk with you about Dr. Peter Rowlands works, which I find very fascinating.

Here is his talk about foundations od physical laws:
https://youtu.be/BGAopIzAjyk

Here is paper:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphy.2017.00028/full


One of his main idea is that sum of everything in nature equal zero.


Here are some of his other statemants:

- time is irreversible and absolutely
continuous (can't be measured and
divided)
- global entropy always increases
- everything in nature constantly strives
towards self-annihilation with the rest
of Universe or the universal vacuum.

My conclusions from the above are as follows:

1. In principle, sooner or later, every living system such as human being, or humanity will be annihilated.

2. In principle, if system is annihilated then it is irreversible - a system with the same internal structure may be created, but it will not be the very same system, it may be (at most) perfectly isomorphic, but it will not share the same identity.

So, for example, if I die, and hypothetically, in the distant future, an exact copy of my body will be made than it will be an exact copy of my body and consciousness, but not my current identity, so my consciousness will not reappear after my death like from deep sleep.


I would like to ask you, are my conclusions solid?

In the past I have encountered statements that every situation, and every particular life, return endlessly because the time is infinite, but the number of possibile configurations of atoms is finite. This idea is terrible.

Some people also talk about "eternal return" in the context of 4D block universe theory where every situation is timless, but this does not worry me because this is justified on the basis of special relativity theory which does not contain the "absolutely continuous" concept of time.

What do you think about it?

[Stathis Papaioannou]

I don’t see why you say that an exact copy of your body, including your consciousness, would not be a continuation of your current identity. That would be like saying that every time you go to sleep you wake up with a different identity, but you believe and everyone else believes it is the same one: how is it different to it actually being the same one, and why should you care?

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Stathis Papaioannou

[Eva]

I don't think it is the same situation - when I sleep, my brain is still working, so there is the continuity of the process that creates me.

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 8:41:54 AM UTC-5, Eva wrote:

Hello

I want to talk with you about Dr. Peter Rowlands works, which I find very fascinating.

Here is his talk about foundations od physical laws:
https://youtu.be/BGAopIzAjyk

Here is paper:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphy.2017.00028/full


One of his main idea is that sum of everything in nature equal zero.

The Hamiltonian constraint NH = 0 is a result of a partition of general relativity into space plus time. This means physically that for a general spacetime there is no single procedure for constructing a Gaussian surface that contains the mass-energy. A spherical space with matter evenly distributed around it has no such ADM definition of mass-energy. So for zero net energy, which is the contact manifold of integration we have E = K + U = 0 for K kinetic energy and U potential. So K = ½mv^2 and for galaxies of mass m in a region with energy density ρ the potential energy in a region of volume V = 4πr^3 is

U = -4πGmρr^2/3.

So 

E = 0 = ½mv^2 - 4πGmρr^2.

The radial distance is then r = xa, for x a ruler distance. It is clear this divides out and we can get the equation

(a'/a)^2 - 8πGmρ/3 = 0 --- a' = da/dt.

Except for the k/a^2 term in the general relativistic form, where for flat space k = 0 anyway and for a large is not a big contributing factor, this is the Friedman-Lemaitre-Robertson-Walker (FLRW) equation for standard cosmology. The Hubble parameter is H = a'/a.

LC

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 05:06, Eva <evalor...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think it is the same situation - when I sleep, my brain is still working, so there is the continuity of the process that creates me.

What if there is a discontinuity, such during an anaesthetic used for cardiac surgery? One could claim that after such a procedure, the patient is actually a different person who believes he is the same person. Is that a meaningful claim? As far as O’m concerned, if I have the same memories and personality, I feel that I’m the same person, and everyone else feels I’m the same person, then I am the same person.

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Stathis Papaioannou