Task Groups - Individual Alerts

[stef]

I may have asked this before but can't quite remember:

Is it possible to set individual alarms for each @j job in a task group?

+ dog house @s 2018-09-15 5:30pm @a 0m: m
@j pickup lumber and paint @s 2018-09-05 5:30pm @a 0m: m &q 1
@j cut pieces @s 2018-09-06 5:30pm @a 0m: m &q 2
@j assemble @s 2018-09-07 5:30pm @a 0m: m &q 3
@j paint @s 2018-09-14 5:30pm @a 0m: m &q 4


Or some other more proper syntax?
(The above does not work.)

I think that setting individual alerts for each of the sub-tasks would be helpful.

[Daniel Graham]

Not in this version but in the new version, this will be possible:

Jobs

• Tasks, both with and without @s entries can have component jobs using @j entries. A task with jobs thus replaces the old task group.
• For tasks with an @s entry, jobs can have an &s entry to set the due date/datetime for the job. It can be entered as a timeperiod relative to the starting datetime (+ before or - after) for the task or as date/datetime. However entered, the value of &s is stored as a relative timeperiod with zero minutes as the default.
• For tasks with an @s entry, jobs can also have &a, alert, and &b, beginning soon, notices. The entry for &a is given as a time period relative to &s (+ before or - after) and the entry for &b is a positive integer number of days before the starting date/time to begin displaying “beginning soon” notices. Entries for @a and @b in the task become the defaults for &a and &b, respectively. E.g., with

      - beginning soon example @s 1/30/2018 @b 10  
        @j job A &s 5d  
        @j job B 
  

  Beginning soon notices would begin on Jan 15 for job A (due Jan 25) and on January 20 for job B (due Jan 30).

-Dan

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[stef]

Great news, thanks.

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On Thu, 8/30/18, Daniel Graham <dnl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [eventandtaskmanager] Task Groups - Individual Alerts
To: eventandt...@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2018, 1:34 PM

Not in this
version but in the new version, this will be possible:

JobsTasks, both with and without @s entries can have component

jobs using @j entries. A task with jobs

thus replaces the old task group.For tasks with an @s entry, jobs can have

[stef]

Dan,

Can you please let me (shoot a message here) know when this is available on GitHub even if not yet released?

Tx.

[Daniel Graham]

Sure, but understand that the new version I mention will be a complete rewrite of etm and is still in the planning stages. It will be many months before there is an alpha release.

You can follow progress on git-hub: https://github.com/dagraham/etm-mvc.

-Dan

[stef]

Didn't realize that. No worries.
Will follow on GH
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On Wed, 9/5/18, Daniel Graham <dnl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [eventandtaskmanager] Task Groups - Individual Alerts
To: eventandt...@googlegroups.com

Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2018, 2:37 PM

[Dan]

Regarding repeating tasks with jobs that have &a and/or &b entries.

• job alerts and job beginbys (&a and &b entries) will only be triggered for unfinished jobs in the relevant instance of the task, i.e., the one that is currently due. 
  
• task alerts and beginbys (@a and @b entries) will be triggered for each unfinished instance of the task including the relevant instance.

Note that in the next version, it will be possible to enter negative periods for alerts as well as positive periods. E.g., @a -90m would trigger the alert 90 minutes **after** the starting time while @a 15m would, as is currently the case, trigger the alert 15 minutes **before** the starting time. A negative starting time could, for example, be used to sound an alert when a meeting is schedule to end or to send a follow up email the following day.

Reactions?

 

[stef]

Sounds good to me.

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On Mon, 11/19/18, Dan <dnl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: [eventandtaskmanager] Re: Task Groups - Individual Alerts
To: "Event and Task Manager" <eventandt...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 19, 2018, 7:45 PM

Regarding
repeating tasks with jobs that have &a and/or &b

entries.job alerts and job beginbys (&a and

&b entries) will only be triggered for unfinished jobs
in the relevant instance of the task, i.e., the one that is
currently due. 
task alerts and
beginbys (@a and @b entries) will be triggered for each
unfinished instance of the task including the relevant

instance.Note that in the next version, it

will be possible to enter negative periods for alerts as
well as positive periods. E.g., @a -90m would trigger the
alert 90 minutes **after** the starting time while @a 15m
would, as is currently the case, trigger the alert 15
minutes **before** the starting time. A negative starting
time could, for example, be used to sound an alert when a
meeting is schedule to end or to send a follow up email the
following day.
Reactions?
 

[Thomas Herden]

My belated 2 cents:  

I can imagine some use cases for supporting post-Due DateTime alarm events, but won't that functionality require that the User refrain from applying an @f DateTime value to the item until after the post-Due DateTime has come and gone?

-Tom

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[Daniel Graham]

Hi Thomas,

The way it now works is that alerts (and beginbys) are only triggered for unfinished tasks. Completing a task by entering an @f datetime disables the alerts both before and after the starting time.  

-- Dan