another Important news about EPC2014

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alessio crisantemi

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Dec 16, 2013, 12:14:13 PM12/16/13
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Hi all,

I want to apologize with some of you about the misunderstandings of last few days during the EPC 2014 registration process. After evaluating the situation, we decided that it is better to give the 64 spots we reserved to the top 4 players of each european country at December 31st 2013. If those players will not pre-register up to that date, they will lose their reserved seat. If they are already preregistered in the top 128 who are right now registered, those seats will be used by the players in teh waiting list.

National team for team competition is up to country directors and they need to comunicate the partecipation before February first at in...@ifpaitalia.it


Thanks and sorry again
Alessio
Ifpa Country Director for Italy

Phillip Eaton

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Dec 16, 2013, 1:18:53 PM12/16/13
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That makes it not an open tournament and thus against the IFPA rules. I believe there is scope for a single event per year to be not open but if I remember right that rule was put in because the Swedes have a long running tournament that has always been like that, it's not because it's a good idea on a global scheme.

Letting star players jump the queue is plain wrong and will devalue your tournament, making average players feel unwelcome. I urge you to think of something else.

Phil (currently well down the waiting list)

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Michael Meti Trepp

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Dec 16, 2013, 1:35:33 PM12/16/13
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that's not true Phil - it is still an open tournament with this rule, otherwise the IFPA WC would be a non-open tournament too. It is open in the way, that every player is free to advance in his national ranking into the top 4 by as many tournaments as he wants/need to play.
Michael

Olli-Mikko

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Dec 16, 2013, 2:40:27 PM12/16/13
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Are these four spots transferable within the country? For example, if the highest ranked player won't attend, is the 5th ranked player then eligible for the reserved spot?

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Phillip Eaton

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Dec 16, 2013, 4:21:29 PM12/16/13
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I would love to play in the IFPA WC, but sadly I'll never be good enough. It's especially difficult when IFPA WC points are only available to top players. Now the same is happening in the EPC.

I know how tough it is making tournaments fair, but for me, actively favouring top players over everyone else isn't the way.

Sorry, having a bad day today...

Phil

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that's not true Phil - it is still an open tournament with this rule, otherwise the IFPA WC would be a non-open tournament too. It is open in the way, that every player is free to advance in his national ranking into the top 4 by as many tournaments as he wants/need to play.
Michael

Am Montag, 16. Dezember 2013 19:18:53 UTC+1 schrieb Phillip Eaton:
That makes it not an open tournament and thus against the IFPA rules. I believe there is scope for a single event per year to be not open but if I remember right that rule was put in because the Swedes have a long running tournament that has always been like that, it's not because it's a good idea on a global scheme.

Letting star players jump the queue is plain wrong and will devalue your tournament, making average players feel unwelcome. I urge you to think of something else.

Phil (currently well down the waiting list)

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Sent: 16/12/2013 18:14

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Cc: Nicola Pierobon
Subject: another Important news about EPC2014

Hi all,

I want to apologize with some of you about the misunderstandings of last few days during the EPC 2014 registration process. After evaluating the situation, we decided that it is better to give the 64 spots we reserved to the top 4 players of each european country at December 31st 2013. If those players will not pre-register up to that date, they will lose their reserved seat. If they are already preregistered in the top 128 who are right now registered, those seats will be used by the players in teh waiting list.

National team for team competition is up to country directors and they need to comunicate the partecipation before February first at in...@ifpaitalia.it


Thanks and sorry again
Alessio
Ifpa Country Director for Italy

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Alessio Crisantemi

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Dec 16, 2013, 4:47:15 PM12/16/13
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So you would like to see next world cup in Brasil without Brasil, Germany, Argentina and England????


We reserved 4 spot for country, 64 total over 192 spots. Of those 64 probaly 15 wont be used, and other 30 are already in the list. So probably we actually are reserving 20 spots over 192. Is that such a big deal?

We think that European Championship needs all best players to compete and not to get them out only because they dont have internet access. They are just a small part of the competitors. Everybody had and still have the chance of getting in.

We are also working on increasing the number of players who can compete.

We think this is the right way of proceding .... than everybody have different points of view and it is very difficult to accomodate all these views.


All the best

Alessio


Il giorno 16/dic/2013, alle ore 22:21, Phillip Eaton <pjea...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

I would love to play in the IFPA WC, but sadly I'll never be good enough. It's especially difficult when IFPA WC points are only available to top players. Now the same is happening in the EPC.

I know how tough it is making tournaments fair, but for me, actively favouring top players over everyone else isn't the way.

Sorry, having a bad day today...

Phil
Sent: 16/12/2013 19:35
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