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|/\Mike/\|
<{$spamblock$}@star-one.org.uk> writes
>
>I gather the term 'nigger' is also a turn of phrase in common use in
>britain.
Dear me. You are rather desperate for a fight today, aren't you?
Either that, or it's one of the most feeble trolls I've seen for a long
time.
Mike
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simon gray
> >I gather the term 'nigger' is also a turn of phrase in common use in
> >britain.
>
> Dear me. You are rather desperate for a fight today, aren't you?
>
> Either that, or it's one of the most feeble trolls I've seen for a long
> time.
So you think sexism is perfectly acceptable, then ?
Oh yes, I forgot - you're not interested in women unless they're into
getting pissed with you.
& you're the kind of hypocrite that jumps up & down shouting 'racism'
whenever somebody posts a welsh joke, but thinks it is perfectly
acceptable for people to dehumanise women by referring to one as 'the
wife'.
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Ken Johnson
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> I gather the term 'nigger' is also a turn of
> phrase in common use in britain.
Then you gather wrong, you self-righteous Yank lump of
fetid camel puke. Racism is a horrible thing, but compared
with the U.S., it is almost unknown here. For examples,
racially mixed marriages are common here, and most white
people enjoy eating foods characteristic of black and Asian
ethnic groups.
The word 'nigger' was in common use in Britain before about
1945 and was not a term of abuse. Racial discrimination
was unknown here until the U.S. Army brought it here with
its policy of segregation. Since the word 'nigger' was
used abusively by the U.S. Army, it has all but disappeared
from the English language.
Ken Johnson
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> Either that, or it's one of the most feeble trolls
> I've seen for a long time.
Could be, but I'm on the case anyway.
Alan Pascoe
>
> Down on uk.misc street, the vibe from Clive Backham is:
> > 2. Why did you see fit to cross-post your reply to other newsgroups, when my
> > original posting was not cross-posted?
>
> Sorry, you have no control over what people do with your posts after you
> have posted them. This is netnews.
It is also spamming.
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Ken Johnson
news:39CFC95B...@alan-pascoe.co.uk...
> It is also spamming.
No, it isn't. Spamming is (a) unsolicited commercial
advertising in e-mail, or (b) commercial advertising on
inappropriate or non-commercial Usenet groups. It has
nothing to do with crossposting. However, many Usenet
spammers crosspost their spam to multiple groups because it
is quicker than posting to each group individually.
Crossposting your own article to different newsgroups
because you think their readers might be interested in it
is legitimate.
See also http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
Ken Johnson
news:Penguin.m2o...@news.kororaa.com...
> "Oi, [Gunga Din], another [Naan] bread"...
I have never heard anyone say that, or anything like it, in
an Indian restaurant. Have you?
I live, as is fairly well known, in Pilton. (There is a
picture of my flat on my website, under "Contact me.")
Neighbouring Muirhouse has been chosen by the Government
and the District Council, in their wisdom, to receive
incoming asylum seekers, probably in order to avoid
upsetting the sensitive, wealthy residents of leafier
suburbs. Although the Socialists have held anti-racism
demonstrations in what looks like an attempt to start a
fight, I have not yet seen or heard any trace of racial
abuse directed at the new arrivals. Have you?
I can't imagine why you referred to my being a Scot. I am
a British citizen, born in England. I have lived in
Scotland since January 1979 and I am therefore a "domiciled
Scot". Somewhere, I have a certificate to prove it. I
have never claimed to be Scots by birth or descent.
While the Yanks tolerate and encourage racism (when did you
last see a mixed race couple on a Yank tv show?) it is
still unusual here, and it is not helpful to encourage them
when they lie about us.
|/\Mike/\|
<aw...@five.in.the.morning> writes
>I commonly refer to SHMBO as "the wife",
You mean you regularly "dehumanise women" - (c) Simon Gray - and then
have the gall to boast about it here?
Simon will be disappointed.
Dave Mayall
<kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam> wrote:
>Alan Pascoe <ne...@alan-pascoe.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:39CFC95B...@alan-pascoe.co.uk...
>
>> It is also spamming.
>
>
>No, it isn't. Spamming is (a) unsolicited commercial
>advertising in e-mail, or (b) commercial advertising on
>inappropriate or non-commercial Usenet groups. It has
>nothing to do with crossposting.
Actually, spamming has everything to do with crossposting, and nothing
to do with inappropriate content.
Having said that, a crosspost to 3 newsgroups isn't spam.
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Iain Bowen
Ken Johnson <kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam> wrote:
>Iain A F Fleming <ia...@kororaa.com> wrote in message
>news:Penguin.m2o...@news.kororaa.com...
>
>> "Oi, [Gunga Din], another [Naan] bread"...
>
>I have never heard anyone say that, or anything like it, in
>an Indian restaurant. Have you?
Yes. Several times.
Iain "100+ Indian restaurants within 2 miles" Bowen
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simon gray
> > I gather the term 'nigger' is also a turn of
> > phrase in common use in britain.
>
> Then you gather wrong, you self-righteous Yank lump of
> fetid camel puke. Racism is a horrible thing, but compared
> with the U.S., it is almost unknown here.
You obviously don't live in a city where black people or asian people
have had petrol bombs stuffed through their letter box, then.
simon gray
> > > 2. Why did you see fit to cross-post your reply to other newsgroups, when my
> > > original posting was not cross-posted?
> >
> > Sorry, you have no control over what people do with your posts after you
> > have posted them. This is netnews.
>
> It is also spamming.
No, spamming is where you post multiple copies of the same post to
several newsgroups.
Hope This Helps.
Sam Nelson
Iain A F Fleming <ia...@kororaa.com> writes:
| "Ken Johnson" <kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam> writes:
| > I can't imagine why you referred to my being a Scot. I am
| > a British citizen, born in England. I have lived in
| > Scotland since January 1979 and I am therefore a "domiciled
| > Scot".
|
|
I've lived in Scotland since September 1980: I would describe myself as
`ex-pat English' but certainly not as Scots, of any description. If, as I
intend, I'm carried from my current house in a pine box, I won't be a Scot of
any description when it happens.
| > Somewhere, I have a certificate to prove it.
|
| A what? Who gave you such a spurious certificate?
|
I'm still waiting for my certificate to arrive. Or at least, I would be if I
were a pillock.
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Ken Johnson
news:Penguin.m2d...@news.kororaa.com...
# "Oi, [Gunga Din], another [Naan] bread"...
> And why have you added brackets?
To denote that I edited your original. I don't want to
remove or change words without marking the edits in some
way. In this case, the bracketed bits are spelling
corrections.
> The fact that the government/council doesn't own,
> nor can it afford, houses in the leafy suburbs
Edinburgh District Council has the highest council tax in
the country (except, I believe, for one or two London
boroughs) and could easily afford hotels or houses in the
rich suburbs if it wanted them. The Council's treatment of
Muirhouse and Pilton is a disgrace; I think they believe
they can do whatever they want here. They have built
Council offices on a public park, for instance, and built a
motorway on what used to be a footpath - neither of which
they would have dared to do in Corstorphine or Cramond.
> According to whom? There is no such legal term
> [as 'domiciled Scot'], at least.
This arose out of civil legal proceedings which occurred
some years ago. My lawyer asked me how long I had resided
in Scotland, told me I was a domiciled Scot, and the fact
was referred to in documents relating to the proceedings.
This is what I referred to as a certificate. Since the
documents in question refer to me as a 'domiciled Scot' it
is probably a recognised technical term in Scots law.
Ken Johnson
news:clXz5.4806$xx3.5...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> You obviously don't live in a city
> where black people or asian people
> have had petrol bombs stuffed
> through their letter box, then.
No, I don't, although I accept that it happens. When that
happened, were they stuffed through the letter boxes by
white people? Was it motivated by race, or druggie turf
wars?
When did a white Englishman last tie a black man to the
back of a lorry and drag him several miles, killing him,
without being stopped by anyone who saw him?
Pete Langdale
wrote:
>In article <7nQz5.5436$gw4.6...@news1.cableinet.net>,
>Ken Johnson <kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam> wrote:
>>Iain A F Fleming <ia...@kororaa.com> wrote in message
>>news:Penguin.m2o...@news.kororaa.com...
>>
>>> "Oi, [Gunga Din], another [Naan] bread"...
>>
>>I have never heard anyone say that, or anything like it, in
>>an Indian restaurant. Have you?
>
>Yes. Several times.
As well as the unforgettable:
"Oi Mowgli, where's me curry?"
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robbie irvine
>>I have never heard anyone say that, or anything like it, in
>>an Indian restaurant. Have you?
>Yes. Several times.
yep and in chinese/cantonese
robbie - used to eat out.
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robbie irvine
wrote a message in uk.misc that I am replying to:
> > Somewhere, I have a certificate to prove it.
>
>A what? Who gave you such a spurious certificate?
must be those 'scottish passports' that you can get on the motorway
robbie
Ken Johnson
news:Penguin.m2s...@news.kororaa.com...
> You could simply have left as it was.
> And Nan or Naan are both correct,
> inasmuch are they are both
> transliterations.
Indeed so; but you wrote "Ginga Din" and "Nam".
> I suspect then that it is simply shorthand
> legalese for "lives in Scotland" -- which
> probably also applies to me. I'm not aware
> of Scot as a legally recognised term [...]
> so I can't believe "domiciled Scot" is some
> kind of subsidiary Scottish nationality.
I know that you have to have been resident in Scotland for
a certain length of time to be considered a "domiciled
Scot," although it isn't very long: three months, if I
remember correctly. So it does not simply convey "lives in
Scotland."
Ken Johnson
news:hp11ts4srk9405g4n...@news.arrakeen.arrak
is.nu...
> must be those 'scottish passports'
> that you can get on the motorway
Actually a British passport is different in one letter if
it is issued in the Glasgow passport office instead of in
London. However, the certificate I referred to is not a
passport, but is part of documents cited in civil
proceedings.
Dave Mayall
<kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam> wrote:
>robbie irvine <rob...@arrakis.nu> wrote in message
>news:hp11ts4srk9405g4n...@news.arrakeen.arrak
>is.nu...
>
>> must be those 'scottish passports'
>> that you can get on the motorway
>
>Actually a British passport is different in one letter if
>it is issued in the Glasgow passport office instead of in
>London.
You haven't had a passport recently have you?
Back in the good old days [TM] (when passports were dark blue
hardbacked things that left Johnny Foreigner in no doubt that you were
British, so watch it), Passports had alphanumeric serial numbers.
Passports issued at London had no alpha prefix, whilst passports
issued elsewhere were prefixed G-Glasgow L-Liverpool P-Peterborough
N-Newport (and probably B-Belfast).
New EC passports don't have any indication of which office issued them
and have all numeric serial numbers.
Oh, and just to confuse things even more, the London Office deals only
with personal applications these days. All postal applications for
passports in London and the Home Counties are dealt with at....
GLASGOW.
--
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Ken Johnson
news:efe1ts86eg0phv52o...@news.ukonline.co.uk
...
> You haven't had a passport recently
> have you?
My current one was issued in April 1991. At that time, one
letter in the long string at the bottom of the back page
indicated the issuing office. Mine was issued urgently on
personal application in Glasgow. The serial number is a
nine digit sequence.
Ken Johnson
> Who by, and for what purposes?
I have already answered this to the best of my ability.
The purpose was, as I have told you, civil proceedings,
details of which are no concern of yours.
Ken Johnson
> So very, very exciting.
Well, you asked. I couldn't give a monkey's.
Iain Bowen
Pete Langdale <plat...@DELETEMEntlworld.com> wrote:
>On 26 Sep 2000 06:58:28 +0100, ala...@alaric.org.uk (Iain Bowen)
>>
>>Yes. Several times.
>
>As well as the unforgettable:
>
>"Oi Mowgli, where's me curry?"
I wonder how many biological samples were found in his vindaloo.
Iain
Sam Nelson
pt...@karsh.rimoov.demon.co.uk (Peter Mulderry) writes:
| Huge <hu...@nospam.huge.org.uk> wrote:
|
| > >Hakan Breidbart being the guy who got a Ph.D. based on a thesis about ng
| > >spam.
| >
| > Jeez, did he? I'm impressed.
|
| Yup. Posted copies to hundreds of Universities around the world.
|
That's a bit, um, ironic, isn't it?
Andy Pandy
Isaac Hunt <ia...@nym.alias.net> wrote in message
news:200009260123...@nym.alias.net...
> FURIOUS TRAUMA wrote:
>
> >I commonly refer to SHMBO as "the wife", just as I refer to the kids as,
> >er, "the kids", and my job as "the job" and my mains-operated
> >nose-hair trimmer as "the beast".
>
> How would you like it if your patients started referring to you as "the
> doctor"?
I went to see my neighbour the other day and their 16 year old referred to
me as "the man from across the road" when shouting his dad. I'll try to
remember to be mortally offended at this dehumanising comment next time.
--
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simon gray
> I went to see my neighbour the other day and their 16 year old referred to
> me as "the man from across the road" when shouting his dad. I'll try to
> remember to be mortally offended at this dehumanising comment next time.
I'll try to remember what a total twat you are in future.
Andy Pandy
> Down on eunet.misc street, the vibe from Andy Pandy is:
>
> > I went to see my neighbour the other day and their 16 year old referred
to
> > me as "the man from across the road" when shouting his dad. I'll try to
> > remember to be mortally offended at this dehumanising comment next time.
>
> I'll try to remember what a total twat you are in future.
LOL! This has to be one of the most amusing threads in uk.misc in recent
times.
Oi, Simon. Get your head out of your arse. If you're going to accuse people
of sexism (whether directly or by implication), on the basis of very feeble
evidence, then people are going to tek the piss. If your ego can't cope with
this then I suggest you find some other ways of getting it massaged, rather
than trying to make out you are morally superior to the rest of us mere
mortals who sometimes use non-PC turns of phrase.
HTH HAND
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Andy Pandy
O Ferkovyatwat <.......@.........> wrote in message
news:m1v4tsgm3h5uqtud8...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:40:06 +0100, "Andy Pandy"
> <spamspamspamspam...@wonderful.spam> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I went to see my neighbour the other day and their 16 year old referred
to
> >me as "the man from across the road" when shouting his dad. I'll try to
> >remember to be mortally offended at this dehumanising comment next time.
>
> a walk".
>
> So did 'the wife' - she thought I meant I was taking her out for the
> night.
And I nearly got sacked cos the boss heard me refer to him as 'the boss'. I
wangled my way out of it by claiming I was talking about Bruce Springsteen.
Luckily he didn't stop to think why I'd be complaining that Bruce
Springsteen takes ages in signing my expenses.
--
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David J Rainey
kenneth...@cableinet.co.uk.no-spam says...
> While the Yanks tolerate and encourage racism (when did you
> last see a mixed race couple on a Yank tv show?)
Lucy Liu and "Fish" from Ally McSqueal?
> it is still unusual here
Apart from Egg and Milly from "This Life", I can't think of any from
fiction.
regards
David