Covid-19 update

[Bobbie Sellers]

Hi Typers and readers,
If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might
have heard that Covid-19, Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and
Influenza are up this year. There are vaccines against all of these
and I had them before the end of September 2023.

<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221236/-CDC-Covid-19-State-of-the-Pandemic-February-2-Still-on-Track-to-Follow-2023-Decline>

Unlike the claims of the RWNJs about vaccines I am
as healthy or unhealthy as ever.

But I haven't had Covid-19. RSV or the Influenza yet.

bliss

--

[Bobbie Sellers]

Forgot this further matter:

<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/1/2220894/-Vital-Covid-studies-from-January-2024-and-Trump-forcing-meatpackers-to-keep-packing-meat>

bliss
--

[Bobbie Sellers]

On 2/5/24 02:43, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might
>> have heard that Covid-19
>

> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.

Aw but we have France 24 and DW TV plus we have Chinese, Japanese,
Vietnamese, Indian (So.Asia), Native American, even
MAGA News. We might have other ethnic origin news aw well but
these are the ones I can identify. I dunno how many other people
watch them but when the choice is between them and the NFL I
prefer the news if it is not MAGA ignorance on display.

bliss

--
bliss dash SF four ever at dsl extreme dot com

[suzeeq]

On 2/5/2024 9:39 AM, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> What is MAGA? I am not American. Make Armpits Gross Again?
>
Trump's slogan - Make America Great Again.

[Mark Carroll]

On 05 Feb 2024, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:

>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might

>> have heard that Covid-19
>
> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.

We get PBS over the air for free in Britain.

-- Mark

[Adam H. Kerman]

Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.

Even in the United States, because of the nature of PBS, viewers get PBS
network programming free via the broadcast of their local public
television station if they use an antenna, but the local public
broadcasting station must pay for the programming they broadcast. That's
not how the three broadcast networks mentioned -- ABC, NBC, CBS -- work.
They pay their affiliates to "clear time" for prime time programming.
There are separate deals for daytime television and weekend sports. I
don't know if these involve revenue splits of national advertising.

PBS takes certain programs that were originally broadcast on ITV as
foreign programming or possibly as a joint production, but no one in the
United States gets ITV over the air for free.

PBS used to take a lot of BBC programming but that hasn't been true
in decades. These days it's quite the exception if any BBC programming
is broadcast over PBS.

[Andy Burns]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.

<https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/677467/bbc1-2-freely-available-in-the-netherlands>

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <87jzni1...@ixod.org> at Mon, 5 Feb 2024 19:28:34, Mark
Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> writes

Though only 1pm to midnight.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Time is an illusion - lunchtime doubly so. (First series, fit the first.)

[Mark Carroll]

On 05 Feb 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:
>>On 05 Feb 2024, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
>
>>>>If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might
>>>>have heard that Covid-19
>
>>>Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.
>>
>>We get PBS over the air for free in Britain.
>
> Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS_America has a decent summary - "a
profit-making enterprise managed separately from the main non-profit,
publicly financed arm".

You raise an interesting question of how the funding works for the one
here. https://tvadvertising.co.uk/channel/pbs-america/ explains. "It is
provided by cable and satellite operators as part of their channel
packages and carries advertising. Unlike PBS in the United States it
does not solicit donations from viewers."

(snip)

> PBS used to take a lot of BBC programming but that hasn't been true
> in decades. These days it's quite the exception if any BBC programming
> is broadcast over PBS.

That makes sense: since BBC America launched, I suppose they're more
keen to keep the US market to themselves instead of selling the shows to
other channels.

In the US, I still sometimes catch documentaries (maybe more likely on
Discovery or somesuch) that I realize must be originally British
because, even if the voiceover narration is American, all nearly all the
experts they interview happen to be based in Britain, even if the topic
isn't particular to Britain.

-- Mark

[Mark Carroll]

On 05 Feb 2024, Mark Carroll wrote:

> On 05 Feb 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>> Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:

(snip)

>>>We get PBS over the air for free in Britain.
>>
>> Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.

(snip)

I should have added,
https://www.freeview.co.uk/get-freeview-play/channels/pbs-america has,
"To enjoy this channel you'll need a TV with Freeview HD built in ..."
which is nearly every television sold here these days. ("Freeview" is
just as its name suggests.)

-- Mark

[Mark Carroll]

On 05 Feb 2024, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> In message <87jzni1...@ixod.org> at Mon, 5 Feb 2024 19:28:34, Mark
> Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> writes

(snip)

>>We get PBS over the air for free in Britain.

(snip)

> Though only 1pm to midnight.

And not including NewsHour, unless I missed it. It's mostly
documentaries here.

-- Mark

[Adam H. Kerman]

There are comments in there that BBC channels may be available on cable.
The O.P. was quite specific: Over the air for free. I'm sorry but an
over-the-air broadcast network in one country simply is not available as
an over-the-air broadcast network in another country.

It would be nice if I could just receive broadcast signals from anywhere
else but I cannot.

[Andy Burns]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>>> Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.
>
>> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/677467/bbc1-2-freely-available-in-the-netherlands
>
> There are comments in there that BBC channels may be available on cable.
> The O.P. was quite specific: Over the air for free. I'm sorry but an
> over-the-air broadcast network in one country simply is not available as
> an over-the-air broadcast network in another country.

I tried to find older articles, which described how in the 60s/70s
british TV *could* be received off-air in some parts of the netherlands,
later it was received in belgium and then sent over dutch cable networks.

Doctor Who being particularly popular

<https://broadwcast.org/index.php/Netherlands>

[Bobbie Sellers]

Masterpiece shows from the BBS are regularly broadcast over
PBS in San Francisco, Not as much as one might hope for but we get
BBC News nearly on a daily basis. We used to get Dr.Who which was
a favorite with Silicon Valley. I left our the staions that broadcast
in Spanish. One of my dear friends used to watch Telenovelas all the
time but now on PBS we have "Hijos de Desierto", excuse my spelling
if yuu are Spanish, which is set in the 1930s in Pero I believe.
I am hoping for the return of several BBC show including the "World
on Fire" a WW II drama. I think the computer kept me from watching
SS-UK which is an alternate history story set in a wortld in which
the NAZI conquered Great Britain.

Benny Hill was first shown on commercial TV. "Monty PYthon"
though was PBS as was "Faulty Towers", "Rising Damp" and a host of
other stuff. We would get no "Pierot", "Father Brown" and a lot of
other mystery shows without PBS.

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <upri78$f2rn$1...@andyburns.eternal-september.org> at Mon, 5 Feb
2024 20:59:18, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk> writes
[]

>I tried to find older articles, which described how in the 60s/70s
>british TV *could* be received off-air in some parts of the
>netherlands, later it was received in belgium and then sent over dutch
>cable networks.
>
>Doctor Who being particularly popular
>
><https://broadwcast.org/index.php/Netherlands>
>

Back in the days of French 819-line TV, I could get a solid signal in
Folkestone (south-east coast) on our 405-line set (just a technical
curiosity: two tall thin side-by-side pictures, no sound). Last time I
checked there, I could usually get a French DTV multiplex there. It's
line of sight - most of the time France and England can see each other;
the Netherlands is just along the coast a bit, and I'm sure can receive
UK TV with only a moderate aerial (few tens of miles over salt water -
not difficult).

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Address the chair!" "There isn't a chair, there's only a rock!" "Well, call
it a chair!" "Why not call it a rock?" (First series, fit the sixth.)

[Bobbie Sellers]

PBS in San Franciso runs advertising as well as solicitng donations
from viewers. Even seeks legacy gifts. And when it was
seeking donations and had auctions it had to fill in the empty
space with either self-advertisements or previews of coming
attractions. And it still does.

bliss
--

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <uprin7$f0ie$1...@dont-email.me> at Mon, 5 Feb 2024 13:07:50,
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-...@dslextreme.com> writes
[]

> Benny Hill was first shown on commercial TV. "Monty PYthon"
>though was PBS as was "Faulty Towers", "Rising Damp" and a host of
>other stuff. We would get no "Pierot", "Father Brown" and a lot of
>other mystery shows without PBS.
>
> bliss
>

Benny Hill was on the commercial channel (yes, there was only one!) here
too; Python and Fawlty (note spelling) were BBC. I'm not sure about
Rising Damp - commercial I think; Poirot (I assume that's what you mean
- the one with David Suchet as the fictional Belgian detective) was
commercial. Father Brown is on both BBC and ITV these days, but I'm not
sure who originally made them - look at the final screen at the end of
the credits (the one with the date on), it usually says there for most
UK TV programmes who made them.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:
>On 05 Feb 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:
>>>On 05 Feb 2024, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:

>>>>>If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might
>>>>>have heard that Covid-19

>>>>Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.

>>>We get PBS over the air for free in Britain.

>>Uh what? Nobody gets one country's broadcast network in another country.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS_America has a decent summary - "a
>profit-making enterprise managed separately from the main non-profit,
>publicly financed arm".

I didn't know that existed. The programming model is unique. I have no
idea if any other country has it. PBS, as a network, owns no
programming. All programming is produced (or in the case of foreign
programming purchased) by a member public broadcasting station.
PBS NewsHour, for instance, is produced by WETA-TV Washington. British
dramas, police procedurals, and mysteries, often from ITV, are either
joint productions or purchased as foreign programming by WGBH Boston.

Member stations raise monies locally to pay fees to acquire programs to
broadcast. The fees are based on population in the broadcast area. Some
markets have more than one public television station and there must be a
lower fee paid because they tend to get prime time programming months
behind the main station.

I guess PBS_America sells foreign rights on behalf of member stations. I
assume it's voluntarily, that the owning station might try to sell
rights directly if it were cost effective.

>You raise an interesting question of how the funding works for the one
>here. https://tvadvertising.co.uk/channel/pbs-america/ explains. "It is
>provided by cable and satellite operators as part of their channel
>packages and carries advertising. Unlike PBS in the United States it
>does not solicit donations from viewers."

That makes sense. But the reverse is NOT true: Monies are raised locally
in America to buy foreign programming.

>(snip)
>>PBS used to take a lot of BBC programming but that hasn't been true
>>in decades. These days it's quite the exception if any BBC programming
>>is broadcast over PBS.

>That makes sense: since BBC America launched, I suppose they're more
>keen to keep the US market to themselves instead of selling the shows to
>other channels.

BBC America has as little to do with BBC programming as possible. It's a
satellite channel with cable distribution (and an associated streaming
service purchased separately )owned by AMC networks in partnership with
BBC Studios, but it's BBC Worldwide that sells foreign programming rights.
BBC America has to bid on rights like any other channel. They weren't
the original place to watch Doctor Who, then bought the rights, then
lost them to Disney.

Most of its programming is movies from American studios. We don't even
get British movies. They don't even star British actors!

They've had original series but their most famous series Orphan Black
was a Canadian-American joint production that BBC had nothing to do
with!

[Adam H. Kerman]

It sounds like streaming, not broadcast. I'm glad you can get it.

We've got a pay streaming service I've never tried called BritBox, which
I think it partly owned by BBC Worldwide (so it sells foreign rights to
its own subsidiary).

[Daniel65]

Ottavio Caruso wrote on 5/2/24 9:43 pm:

> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:

>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you might

>> have heard that Covid-19
>
> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.
>

Well, we have one of them .... ABC .... but, in our case, it's the
*AUSTRALIAN* Broadcasting Corporation!! ;-P
--
Daniel

[Daniel65]

Bobbie Sellers wrote on 6/2/24 3:12 am:

> On 2/5/24 02:43, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
>>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you
>>> might have heard that Covid-19
>>
>> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.
>
> Aw but we have France 24 and DW TV

WHAT?? You have "Doctor Who TV"?? Can I get that?? ;-P

> plus we have Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Indian (So.Asia), Native
> American, even MAGA News. We might have other ethnic origin news aw
> well but these are the ones I can identify. I dunno how many other
> people watch them but when the choice is between them and the NFL I
> prefer the news if it is not MAGA ignorance on display.
>
> bliss
>
--

Daniel

[Daniel65]

suzeeq wrote on 6/2/24 5:06 am:

but I think I might prefer "Make Armpits Gross Again"!! l-P
--
Daniel

[Mark Carroll]

On 05 Feb 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:
(snip)

>>I should have added,
>>https://www.freeview.co.uk/get-freeview-play/channels/pbs-america has,
>>"To enjoy this channel you'll need a TV with Freeview HD built in ..."
>>which is nearly every television sold here these days. ("Freeview" is
>>just as its name suggests.)
>
> It sounds like streaming, not broadcast. I'm glad you can get it.

Freeview is broadcast. https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/equipment has,
"All you need to do is connect to a working aerial to watch live TV."

There's also its cousin Freesat, which is free satellite, which also
carries PBS America.

> We've got a pay streaming service I've never tried called BritBox, which
> I think it partly owned by BBC Worldwide (so it sells foreign rights to
> its own subsidiary).

Ah, yes, that sounds about right.

-- Mark

[Adam H. Kerman]

Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:
>On 05 Feb 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> wrote:

>(snip)

>>>I should have added,
>>>https://www.freeview.co.uk/get-freeview-play/channels/pbs-america has,
>>>"To enjoy this channel you'll need a TV with Freeview HD built in ..."
>>>which is nearly every television sold here these days. ("Freeview" is
>>>just as its name suggests.)

>>It sounds like streaming, not broadcast. I'm glad you can get it.

>Freeview is broadcast. https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/equipment has,
>"All you need to do is connect to a working aerial to watch live TV."

I'm sorry but I'm quite confused by the statement.

If you bought your TV after 2010, it will already have Freeview
built into it.

"Freeview built into it" What does that mean? Just a digital subchannel?

"Freeview Play" devices -- one appears to be a DVR, the other appears to
be the bi-directional receiver for use with on demand -- are discussed
separately. It's not clear to me if on demand is in addition to
streaming.

>There's also its cousin Freesat, which is free satellite, which also
>carries PBS America.

>>. . .

[Bobbie Sellers]

On 2/6/24 00:31, Daniel65 wrote:
> Bobbie Sellers wrote on 6/2/24 3:12 am:
>> On 2/5/24 02:43, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
>>>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS you
>>>> might have heard that Covid-19
>>>
>>> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in Europe.
>>
>> Aw but we have France 24 and DW TV
>
> WHAT?? You have "Doctor Who TV"?? Can I get that?? ;-P

It has been a while since we did have it on PBS channel 54
in the SF Bay Area. Back in the 1980s I got a rooftop antenna on my
apartment building and pointed it at the South-East to get Dr.Who.
I guess we had it until later in the 1990s or early 2000s
because it used to be preceded by an hour of Japanese anime. That
in 2005 or so got me into Anime which eventually got me into manga.
Anyhow you have to get Dr.Who from Disney now. The early episodes
are being remade. i believe. The sets in the first few episodes
were really cheap looking.

By the way if you want to read a really great manga(Japanese comic)
the English translation on line of Hyougemono has been completed
and you can start the 272 chapters at:
<http://fanfox.net/manga/hyougemono/>.
This is a biographical story about one of the really interesting
characters of Japanese history, Sasuke Furuta, who later became
the Tea Master to Toyotomi Hideyoshi. He was a samurai and an
aesthete who served Oda Nobunaga then Hideyoshi but fell afoul
of the ultimate victor in the struggel to unify Japan Ieyasu
Tokugawa. The story opens when he is 34 years old and still
unmarried. Adults only please.

>
>> plus we have Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Indian (So.Asia), Native
>> American, even MAGA News. We might have other ethnic origin news aw
>> well but these are the ones I can identify.  I dunno how many other
>> people watch them but when the choice is between them and the NFL I
>> prefer the news if it is not MAGA ignorance on display.

Anmd I left out the Spanish lanuage channels because I am absent of
mind at times.

bliss

--

[Andy Burns]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> "Freeview built into it" What does that mean? Just a digital subchannel?

Freeview is basically just a marketing term for DVB-T, which is roughly
the RoW equivalent of ATSC (yeah there's ISDB-T and DTMB too, but meh)
and FreeviewHD is the marketing tern for DVB-T2+H.265

[Adam H. Kerman]

Thank you

[Daniel65]

Bobbie Sellers wrote on 7/02/2024 5:14 am:
> On 2/6/24 00:31, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Bobbie Sellers wrote on 6/2/24 3:12 am:
>>> On 2/5/24 02:43, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Am 03/02/2024 um 19:45 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
>>>>> If you listen to or watch sane TV like PBS ABC, NBC or CBS
>>>>> you might have heard that Covid-19
>>>>
>>>> Thank God we have none of your Ameritard TV channels in
>>>> Europe.
>>>
>>> Aw but we have France 24 and DW TV
>>
>> WHAT?? You have "Doctor Who TV"?? Can I get that?? ;-P
>
> It has been a while since we did have it on PBS channel 54 in the SF
> Bay Area. Back in the 1980s I got a rooftop antenna on my apartment
> building and pointed it at the South-East to get Dr.Who. I guess we
> had it until later in the 1990s or early 2000s because it used to be
> preceded by an hour of Japanese anime. That in 2005 or so got me into
> Anime which eventually got me into manga. Anyhow you have to get
> Dr.Who from Disney now.

Yeah!! I'm yet to decide if I want to go to that trouble/cost for the
New/Disney Who content!!

I thought you were referring to a Doctor Who only channel on some system
or other.
--
Daniel

[Blueshirt]

Daniel65 wrote:
>
> Yeah!! I'm yet to decide if I want to go to that trouble/cost for
> the New/Disney Who content!!

It you pay for a VPN then you could access BBC iPlayer content from
Australia...

[Bobbie Sellers]

Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more Dr.Who
got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with obviously
painted backdrops. The Doctor in that first episode is asked his
name and he says Doctor Forman, but then he got involved with the Daleks
and their enemies.

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <uq090p$1g2i3$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 07:52:57,
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-...@dslextreme.com> writes
[]

> Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more
>Dr.Who got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with obviously
>painted backdrops. The Doctor in that first episode is asked his
>name and he says Doctor Forman, but then he got involved with the Daleks
>and their enemies.
>
> bliss
>

The first episode was repeated, I think, because the weekend of its
first showing coincided with a certain event in Dallas, which was
something of a distraction, even in the UK.

>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

People may say I can't sing, but no-one can ever say I didn't sing.
Florence Foster Jenkins (reportedly)

[Mark Carroll]

On 07 Feb 2024, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more Dr.Who
> got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with obviously
> painted backdrops.

(snip)

I'm not sure over what period but much of the classic show's run
basically got budgeted as children's television. I'm sure it doesn't
help that, from story to story, one needs new sets too.

Then again, for me, the ones that are worth watching have decent
scripts. The modern era has some well-budgeted episodes wherein they act
their little hearts out uttering words from execrable writing and I just
feel bad for them.

I can live with the wobbly sets made of painted expanded polystyrene and
"crowds" of no more than a dozen people and suchlike if the story's
decent.

-- Mark

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <871q9ob2...@ixod.org> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024 17:28:53,
Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> writes

[]
Among true aficionados, some of the _best_ BBC SF is made on a
shoestring budget, _forcing_ good scripts. Some of Who, Blake's 7,
THHGTTGalaxy (though that was even better in its original incarnation on
the radio [where Earthsearch is also excellent]), and probably a few
others.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

By most scientific estimates sustained, useful fusion is ten years in
the future - and will be ten years in the future for the next fifty
years or more. - "Hamadryad", ~2016-4-4

[Sn!pe]

I'm in the UK but even so, I have to turn my VPN off
to watch BBC iPlayer.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon says:
The first duty of government is defence of the realm.

[Daniel65]

J. P. Gilliver wrote on 8/2/24 3:39 am:

> In message <uq090p$1g2i3$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024
> 07:52:57, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-...@dslextreme.com> writes []
>> Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more
>> Dr.Who got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with
>> obviously painted backdrops. The Doctor in that first episode is
>> asked his name and he says Doctor Forman, but then he got involved
>> with the Daleks and their enemies.
>>
>> bliss
>>
> The first episode was repeated, I think, because the weekend of its
> first showing coincided with a certain event in Dallas, which was
> something of a distraction, even in the UK.

That was the story as I understood it, but I'm working my way through
the rec.arts.drwho archives and one of the posts there indicated that
the first Ep was only delayed by 10-15 minutes ..... but, if you had set
up your VCR to record the show, you might have missed the ending!!

Oh!! Hang on!! ;-P
--
Daniel

[Blueshirt]

Sn!pe wrote:

> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah!! I'm yet to decide if I want to go to that trouble/cost
> > > for the New/Disney Who content!!
> >
> > It you pay for a VPN then you could access BBC iPlayer content
> > from Australia...
>
> I'm in the UK but even so, I have to turn my VPN off
> to watch BBC iPlayer.

My Nord VPN works fine from outside the UK. iPlayer is no problem.

That sneaky test they give you where you just have to click a box
that confirms you have a TV licence to access the iPlayer nearly
catches me out though... that's tricky! ;-)

[Blueshirt]

J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> In message <871q9ob2...@ixod.org> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024
> 17:28:53, Mark Carroll <mt...@ixod.org> writes
> >

> > Then again, for me, the ones that are worth watching have decent
> > scripts. The modern era has some well-budgeted episodes wherein
> > they act their little hearts out uttering words from execrable
> > writing and I just feel bad for them.
> >
> > I can live with the wobbly sets made of painted expanded
> > polystyrene and "crowds" of no more than a dozen people and
> > suchlike if the story's decent.
>

> Among true aficionados, some of the best BBC SF is made on a
> shoestring budget, forcing good scripts.

I actually prefer the "classic era" of Doctor Who, velvet jackets,
wobbly sets and green bubble-wrap included! Mainly because there are
some really good stories there. Modern Doctor Who is more style over
substance.

[Blueshirt]

Daniel65 wrote:

> J. P. Gilliver wrote on 8/2/24 3:39 am:
> >In message <uq090p$1g2i3$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024
> >07:52:57, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-...@dslextreme.com> writes
> > >
> > > Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more
> > > Dr.Who got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with
> > > obviously painted backdrops. The Doctor in that first
> > > episode is asked his name and he says Doctor Forman, but then
> > > he got involved with the Daleks and their enemies.
> > >

> > The first episode was repeated, I think, because the weekend of
> > its first showing coincided with a certain event in Dallas,
> > which was something of a distraction, even in the UK.
>
> That was the story as I understood it, but I'm working my way
> through the rec.arts.drwho archives and one of the posts there
> indicated that the first Ep was only delayed by 10-15 minutes...

If someone on RADW said it then it must be so! ;-)

The BBC definitely repeated "An Unearthly Child" the following week,
before the broadcast of the second episode. What a treat for that
cold winter evening, two episodes of Doctor Who together. (I wasn't
around to see it though!)

[Sn!pe]

I just tried again and Auntie Beeb won't have it. Even using iPlayer
Downloader I have to turn off my VPN (PIA) before it will download
or play, although it will do the biz once I've established the initial
direct connection and then switched the VPN on again.

Anyway, at least I can find a workable solution, so no problemo here.

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <xn0ohttx1...@news.eternal-september.org> at Thu, 8 Feb
2024 09:45:48, Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> writes

>Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> J. P. Gilliver wrote on 8/2/24 3:39 am:
>> >In message <uq090p$1g2i3$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 7 Feb 2024
>> >07:52:57, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-...@dslextreme.com> writes
>> > >
>> > > Did you ever see the 1st Episode? It was repeated before more
>> > > Dr.Who got restarted in the UK. It was kiddie level SF with
>> > > obviously painted backdrops. The Doctor in that first
>> > > episode is asked his name and he says Doctor Forman, but then
>> > > he got involved with the Daleks and their enemies.
>> > >
>> > The first episode was repeated, I think, because the weekend of
>> > its first showing coincided with a certain event in Dallas,
>> > which was something of a distraction, even in the UK.
>>
>> That was the story as I understood it, but I'm working my way
>> through the rec.arts.drwho archives and one of the posts there
>> indicated that the first Ep was only delayed by 10-15 minutes...

Yes, but - even an ocean away - people's mind wasn't on things like the
new series.

>
>If someone on RADW said it then it must be so! ;-)
>
>The BBC definitely repeated "An Unearthly Child" the following week,

I knew it was repeated ...

>before the broadcast of the second episode. What a treat for that

... but not that it was immediately before the second episode.

>cold winter evening, two episodes of Doctor Who together. (I wasn't
>around to see it though!)

I was, but at 3 probably didn't! (Actually, not sure if we _had_ a TV
then. Don't remember that far back.)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Science fiction is escape into reality - Arthur C Clarke