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J. P. Gilliver
Jan 13, 2024, 11:14:36 AM1/13/24
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Followup set to .talk
In message <unubq0$qn1$2...@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> at Sat, 13
Jan 2024 09:55:44, Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> writes
>On 1/13/24 09:52, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> I don't consider what most people do to be a guiding light.
No, nor do I. But if it (accessing the internet via smartphone) is what
most people do, some web designers will optimise for it, just supporting
computers as an afterthought so not done well.
>
>Look at the quality and length of content produced on phones; it tends
>to be short video and of relatively little value in the grand scheme of
>things.
And, of course, in a thin vertical strip. Doesn't have to be, but most
moan users don't think to turn it horizontal, and the OS writers don't
seem to want to remind them to do so.
>
>IMHO almost all worthwhile content is produced on things other than
>smart phones.
Agreed.
>
>Tablets tend to be more akin to portable computers when it comes to
>producing content.
>
Better than moans, at least.
>
>
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets
you. - Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear
In message <unubq0$qn1$2...@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> at Sat, 13
Jan 2024 09:55:44, Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> writes
>On 1/13/24 09:52, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> I don't consider what most people do to be a guiding light.
No, nor do I. But if it (accessing the internet via smartphone) is what
most people do, some web designers will optimise for it, just supporting
computers as an afterthought so not done well.
>
>Look at the quality and length of content produced on phones; it tends
>to be short video and of relatively little value in the grand scheme of
>things.
And, of course, in a thin vertical strip. Doesn't have to be, but most
moan users don't think to turn it horizontal, and the OS writers don't
seem to want to remind them to do so.
>
>IMHO almost all worthwhile content is produced on things other than
>smart phones.
Agreed.
>
>Tablets tend to be more akin to portable computers when it comes to
>producing content.
>
Better than moans, at least.
>
>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets
you. - Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear
immibis
Jan 14, 2024, 2:27:43 AM1/14/24
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On 1/13/24 17:11, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
> And, of course, in a thin vertical strip. Doesn't have to be, but most
> moan users don't think to turn it horizontal, and the OS writers don't
> seem to want to remind them to do so.
Quite ironic. General Internet sentiment used to be that you should
>
> And, of course, in a thin vertical strip. Doesn't have to be, but most
> moan users don't think to turn it horizontal, and the OS writers don't
> seem to want to remind them to do so.
record horizontally because people would watch on laptops with
horizontal monitors. Now people watch on vertical phone screens. If you
complained about vertical video when most people watched on horizontal
monitors, but you also complain about vertical video when most people
watch on vertical monitors just because yours is horizontal, you're a
hypocrite.
It's true that human eyeballs have a bigger horizontal field of view
than vertical, but that isn't the only consideration.
Daniel65
Jan 14, 2024, 3:30:58 AM1/14/24
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J. P. Gilliver wrote on 14/1/24 3:11 am:
remember my, then, ISP (a small town local) optimising his website for
viewing on phones, what, 20'ish years ago!! ;-P
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Daniel
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> <unubq0$qn1$2...@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> at Sat, 13 Jan 2024
> 09:55:44, Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> writes
>> On 1/13/24 09:52, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>> I don't consider what most people do to be a guiding light.
>
> No, nor do I. But if it (accessing the internet via smartphone) is
> what most people do, some web designers will optimise for it, just
> supporting computers as an afterthought so not done well.
"some web designers *will* optimise for it"!! You're joking!! I can
> <unubq0$qn1$2...@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> at Sat, 13 Jan 2024
> 09:55:44, Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> writes
>> On 1/13/24 09:52, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>> I don't consider what most people do to be a guiding light.
>
> No, nor do I. But if it (accessing the internet via smartphone) is
> what most people do, some web designers will optimise for it, just
> supporting computers as an afterthought so not done well.
remember my, then, ISP (a small town local) optimising his website for
viewing on phones, what, 20'ish years ago!! ;-P
--
Daniel
J. P. Gilliver
Jan 15, 2024, 2:32:17 PM1/15/24
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(F-U to .talk [I'd have replied by email but could see it was invalid]
to take load off Ray.)
In message <65a3...@news.ausics.net> at Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:50:28, noel
<delet...@invalid.lan> writes
>On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 15:30:35 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> In message <65a2a201$1...@news.ausics.net> at Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:45:21,
>> noel <delet...@invalid.lan> writes
>>>On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 09:18:43 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get the _impression_ - I don't have figures - that the majority of
>>>> the online population are now smartphone users (Android an iPhone),
>>>> with Windows and Mac very much in the minority (and thought of as
>>>> dinosaurs).
>>>
>>>I often hear this claim, yet the evidence has never supported it, well,
>> []
>> Ah. I supposed that the reason many web pages didn't work very well was
>> that they were designed for use on smartphones, and were just about made
>> to work on computers - or, that they overcompensated for what they think
>> are the huge screens on computers, and thus switch in huge header and
>> footer banners.
>>
>> Maybe it's just that web design has gone down the tubes (-:
>
>its been down there for a long, long time, but it's getting better,
>haven't stumbled upon many flash sites lately :D
More than outnumbered by script files now.
to take load off Ray.)
In message <65a3...@news.ausics.net> at Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:50:28, noel
<delet...@invalid.lan> writes
>On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 15:30:35 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> In message <65a2a201$1...@news.ausics.net> at Sun, 14 Jan 2024 00:45:21,
>> noel <delet...@invalid.lan> writes
>>>On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 09:18:43 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get the _impression_ - I don't have figures - that the majority of
>>>> the online population are now smartphone users (Android an iPhone),
>>>> with Windows and Mac very much in the minority (and thought of as
>>>> dinosaurs).
>>>
>>>I often hear this claim, yet the evidence has never supported it, well,
>> []
>> Ah. I supposed that the reason many web pages didn't work very well was
>> that they were designed for use on smartphones, and were just about made
>> to work on computers - or, that they overcompensated for what they think
>> are the huge screens on computers, and thus switch in huge header and
>> footer banners.
>>
>> Maybe it's just that web design has gone down the tubes (-:
>
>its been down there for a long, long time, but it's getting better,
>haven't stumbled upon many flash sites lately :D
More than outnumbered by script files now.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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