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Ray Banana

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Oct 22, 2023, 10:41:33 AM10/22/23
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Haha.

candycanearter07

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Oct 22, 2023, 11:18:05 AM10/22/23
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On 10/22/23 09:39, Ray Banana wrote:
> Haha.
>

HTML squared? But 1^2 is just one..
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Juan

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Oct 29, 2023, 2:19:18 PM10/29/23
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Other testing..


"Ray Banana" <ray...@raybanana.net> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
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> Haha.
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meagain

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Nov 8, 2023, 10:28:51 PM11/8/23
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-------- Original Message --------
> On 10/22/23 09:39, Ray Banana wrote:
>> Haha.
>>
>
> HTML squared? But 1^2 is just one..

0^0 is 1 too --- i think

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candycanearter07

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Nov 8, 2023, 10:28:52 PM11/8/23
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Yeah, but the subject was HTML^2.

Daniel65

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Nov 9, 2023, 3:28:55 AM11/9/23
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meagain wrote on 9/11/23 7:17 am:
0^0 is the same as 0 multiplied by 0 and anything multiplied by 0 is 0!!
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Dan Purgert

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Nov 9, 2023, 4:20:06 AM11/9/23
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Exponents are fun, such that n^0 = 1; inclusive of n=0. I can't
entirely remember "why" that is ... probably falls into one of those
other advanced sets of mathematics that build upon calculus.

Kinda like how one can divide by zero, but it's easier to just say you
can't do it in the "standard subset of mathematics that everyone
learns", because it's an absolute mess.


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yeti

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Nov 9, 2023, 6:34:51 AM11/9/23
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_to_the_power_of_zero claims:

| Zero to the power of zero, denoted by 0^0, is a mathematical
| expression that is either defined as 1 or left undefined, depending on
| context. In algebra and combinatorics, one typically defines 0^0 =
| 1. In mathematical analysis, the expression is sometimes left
| undefined. Computer programming languages and software also have
| differing ways of handling this expression.

(Transliterated "⁰" to "^0" to make more news readers happy.)

So better ask questions about the context and for ways around hitting
that 0^0 case to be found.

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yeti

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Nov 9, 2023, 6:35:42 AM11/9/23
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Daniel65

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Nov 9, 2023, 7:24:10 AM11/9/23
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Dan Purgert wrote on 9/11/23 8:20 pm:
> On 2023-11-09, Daniel65 wrote:
>> meagain wrote on 9/11/23 7:17 am:
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On 10/22/23 09:39, Ray Banana wrote:
>>>>> Haha.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTML squared? But 1^2 is just one..
>>>
>>> 0^0 is 1 too --- i think
>>>
>> 0^0 is the same as 0 multiplied by 0 and anything multiplied by 0
>> is 0!!
>
> Exponents are fun, such that n^0 = 1; inclusive of n=0. I can't
> entirely remember "why" that is ... probably falls into one of those
> other advanced sets of mathematics that build upon calculus.
>
> Kinda like how one can divide by zero, but it's easier to just say
> you can't do it in the "standard subset of mathematics that everyone
> learns", because it's an absolute mess. When I first read meagain's
> post, I was going for '0^0 = 1' but, before

I posted, I checked with my sister (much more of a mathematician than
yours truly!) and she reminded me that 'Anything multiplied by 0 equals
0', so not wanting to start a Family Feud ....!! ;-)

But, then again, in another thread, we were discussing 'The Rules of the
English Language'-type of thing and I mentioned "'I' before 'E' unless
after 'C' .... except for the 1,000-plus exemptions to that rule!!" ....
so, maybe, 0^0 = 1 might be the exemption to this rule!! ;-P
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Dan Purgert

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Nov 9, 2023, 8:29:58 AM11/9/23
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On 2023-11-09, Daniel65 wrote:
> Dan Purgert wrote on 9/11/23 8:20 pm:
>> On 2023-11-09, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> meagain wrote on 9/11/23 7:17 am:
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> On 10/22/23 09:39, Ray Banana wrote:
>>>>>> Haha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HTML squared? But 1^2 is just one..
>>>>
>>>> 0^0 is 1 too --- i think
>>>>
>>> 0^0 is the same as 0 multiplied by 0 and anything multiplied by 0
>>> is 0!!
>>
>> Exponents are fun, such that n^0 = 1; inclusive of n=0. I can't
>> entirely remember "why" that is ... probably falls into one of those
>> other advanced sets of mathematics that build upon calculus.
>>
>> Kinda like how one can divide by zero, but it's easier to just say
>> you can't do it in the "standard subset of mathematics that everyone
>> learns", because it's an absolute mess. When I first read meagain's
>> post, I was going for '0^0 = 1' but, before
>
> I posted, I checked with my sister (much more of a mathematician than
> yours truly!) and she reminded me that 'Anything multiplied by 0 equals
> 0', so not wanting to start a Family Feud ....!! ;-)

Which is true, depending on which "parts" of math we're talking about
(again, like how "Can't divide by zero").

What I understood from the explanation was "x^0 is always one,
because the empty-set matches the empty-set ({} == {} is true).
Likewise, 0^1 = 0, because the empty-set does not match anything other
than the empty-set ({} == {1} is false)".

yeti

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Nov 9, 2023, 1:54:25 PM11/9/23
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Blue-Maned_Hawk

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Nov 9, 2023, 4:44:49 PM11/9/23
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yeti wrote:

> (Transliterated "⁰" to "^0" to make more news readers happy.)

Any newsreader that can't handle Unicode is obsolete.



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Sn!pe

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Nov 9, 2023, 5:16:05 PM11/9/23
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Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluema...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> yeti wrote:
>
> > (Transliterated "?" to "^0" to make more news readers happy.)
>
> Any newsreader that can't handle Unicode is obsolete.

s/obsolete/obsolescent

That isn't a problem here; if my 'reader can't render it, I don't
need to read it. It can be fun guessing what it is, though.

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candycanearter07

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Nov 9, 2023, 5:23:03 PM11/9/23
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On 11/9/23 16:16, Sn!pe wrote:
> Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluema...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> yeti wrote:
>>
>>> (Transliterated "?" to "^0" to make more news readers happy.)
>>
>> Any newsreader that can't handle Unicode is obsolete.
>
> s/obsolete/obsolescent
>
> That isn't a problem here; if my 'reader can't render it, I don't
> need to read it. It can be fun guessing what it is, though.
>

I prefer basic ASCII, but to each their own.

Anton Ertl

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Nov 10, 2023, 2:37:06 AM11/10/23
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Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluema...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>Any newsreader that can't handle Unicode is obsolete.

If you ask all those people who have departed Usenet, or that have not
even started using it, or use it through a web browser, any newsreader
that can handle Unicode is obsolete as well. Meanwhile, those of us
who are still using Usenet proper like our newsreaders, and your or
their opinion about them won't change that.

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Daniel65

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Nov 10, 2023, 2:58:32 AM11/10/23
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Dan Purgert wrote on 10/11/23 12:29 am:
Whoooosh!!

Sets?? Sets? What's these 'Set' things of which you speak!! ;-P
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yeti

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Nov 10, 2023, 8:06:24 AM11/10/23
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Unlike in the 99% of the chitchat here, in the context of formulae or
code every keystroke matters. Not making these small changes for old
readers may make me redo/reexplain it later and that'd be much more
action.

And you cannot demand me not to be lazy!
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