Re: Un ejercicio de empatía histórica

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Tiberio wrote:
> El 16/06/2015 a las 17:09, pepe escribió:
>> Intentando hacer este ejercicio de empatía, tengo una duda y una
>> certeza. La duda es que me resulta difícil comprender cómo es
>> posible que Franco no se levantase hasta 1936. ¡ya hay que tener
>> aguante! La certeza es que comprendo perfectamente el por qué
>> ningún país civilizado de Europa, ni de fuera de ella, como EEUU,
>> quiso apoyar al bando rojo. Y ello a pesar de que en el bando
>> nacional estaba el peligro fascista, pues sus aliados eran Hitler y
>> Mussolini, los cuales eran los enemigos prestos de todas las
>> democracias de Occidente. Incluso a pesar de ello, ningún país
>> civilizado quiso ayudar a los rojos. El único que les ayudó era
>> alguien de su parecida calaña: Stalin
>
> Una puntualización: En 1936 Hitler y Mussolini no eran vistos como
> una amenaza por las democracias de Occidente sino como un eficaz
> freno a la expansión del comunismo, ambos gozaban de una excelente
> opinión por parte de las élites económicas y políticas de las
> democracias, tampoco sus leyes de eugenesia y discriminación activa
> contra los judíos levantaron oleadas de indignación más allá de los
> directamente afectados.
>
> Hasta 1939 Hitler y Mussolini no eran "el coco", eran como Saddam
> Hussein antes que invadiese Kuwait.
>
> Cuando el gobierno republicano armó indiscriminadamente a los
> civiles, y cedió su autoridad a partidos y sindicatos, perdió
> cualquier apoyo que le pudieran conceder las democracias, que ni en
> la peor de sus pesadillas querían que aquel ejemplo tuviera éxito y
> en consecuencia imitadores.
>
>
> Tiberio.

¿Te crees que Alemania, Italia y Japón tenían ejércitos o una
maquinaria de guerra para ganar?

Hollywood, los historiadores y los periodistas te lo han hecho creer.

Ahí va un trozo de un artículo sobre un ejercicio de empatía histórica.

"Let me show you how the stage was set this time, by taking you back to
a previous stage show. Let’s mentally go back to 1936 when the
Illuminati were planning the show (called WW II). Mentally transport
yourself back to about 65 years ago, as we look into how an Illuminati
planning session looks:
The idea which they are hashing out is how to get Germany up to a
credible level to engage in war, and what the results of that war will
be. You see it just doesn’t work out on paper, in war games, and so
forth. The war just doesn’t come together. The German staff (& others)
used war games similar to what is
now sold today to figure out how battles and wars would happen. War
games were SOP. (I myself have war gamed out W.W. II with very detailed
war games that require you to learn a book of minute details just to
play the game, where the entire political-economic-military scenario is
before you. The obvious fact is that Japan & Germany don’t stand a
chance. They never did.
Today’s board games even cheat slightly on the parameters to give the
Axis powers more ability so they have at least a slight chance.) As
these Illuminati colleagues study the problems, the problem is not how
can the future allies (Russia, China, Br. Empire, & US) beat their
future enemies (Germany, Japan & Italy), but how do we give Germany,
Japan, & Italy enough to make them be a credible opponent? Germany has
been in the depths of starvation & unemployment. Its economy is in
shambles, and it is only a small nation. It has no real submarine force,
it has only a small air force, and its tanks are a joke. Japan is the
most powerful Asian nation, but compared to the Western powers she is
far behind. Japan’s industrial ability is relatively small, and its
military-industrial complex lacks some significant things, including raw
materials. When you war game out a war
between Japan and the U.S., Japan just does not have any credible chance.
That is without factoring in that Japan actually fought China, the Br.
Commonwealth, and the U.S. while having to guard against Russia at the
backdoor….

The Germans started the war with their Panzer I tanks (little
tankettes), which were armed with machine guns and were vulnerable to
most every thing.
They had to use them because they were short of real tanks. They began
with only a handful of weak submarines. When the war began, all their
planes and tanks were outclassed by the best British, French and Russian
models. To give the Germans a fighting chance, Czechoslovakia was given
to the Germans without a fight. Czechoslovakia provided the Germans with
368 35(t) and 38(t) tanks, which were then used by Germany to conquer
Poland. The Germans had the Czechs build almost 1,300 more of these
Czech tanks in the next two years. In order to give Germany a fighting
chance, France, Britain, and Russia employed their weapons in a
ridiculous fashion. Had these nations used their weapons intelligently
W.W. II would have still-birthed within a
month or two after Sept. 1, 1939. The Illuminati during the entire war
had to secretly supply Germany with many vital items including for
instance, diamonds for gyroscopes & millions of other industrial uses,
and gas and oil quietly shipped through Spain to France and on to
Germany. Had the Illuminati not supplied the items Germany lacked for a
modern war, the war would have easily ground to a halt in 1942.

The precarious position of Germany and Italy prior to WW II is not
revealed by our superficial histories and Hollywood movies. In order to
capture Ethiopia, a rather minor African nation, in 1936 Italy had to
require all of its women to turn in their wedding bands so that the gold
could be used to pay for the war. Italy also had to resort to chemical
weapons. Germany on the start of the war was so bad off economically,
that restaurants stayed open short hours & only carried one or two
items, although they continued to pass out full menus. A law in Germany
required all restaurant garbage to be
retained and recycled, and a synthetic margarine was made from the
garbage, so that Hitler could have both “guns & butter”. This synthetic
margarine would instantly give you the runs, & this is what the German
people had to eat. This is just at the war’s start.

The Japanese factory that built its fabled Zero fighters, transported
the airplanes to their airfields by a few ox carts over crude roads. In
order to produce gas, teams of youth pulled tree stumps, which when
burned into charcoal and refined gave small amounts of a low-grade
aviation fuel. I forget the ratio, fifty tree stumps for a cup of gas,
or something like that.

It is likely the U.S. secretly provided a sub base for the Germans
during the early part of the war on Long Island, so as to give them a
more credible chance to sink U.S. ships. Our merchant ships during
America’s first year at war (’42) were ordered to take little
precautions against subs, and consequently suffered large losses. The
Germans even sailed subs up the Mississippi River and took out American
shipping on the Mississippi.

What I am writing is true. I am trying to convey to the reader that WW
II was a sham. The Illuminati tried every trick in the book to help the
upstart nations of Germany, Italy and Japan to have a credible war machine.
Did they want Germany to lose? It seems that they were willing to accept
an axis victory, but that there was so little doubt about eventual
Allied success that they only had to seriously ask themselves that
question when Hitler had finished off France. At that point, they
decided to pull back some of their support to help insure Hitler lost,
but not enough to stop the war."