Translating English Into English?;)

[pln471]

Dear all inquisitive learners new and old,

"Canadians,Americans,Brits and Australians may all speak the same
language,but they don't do it
the same way.
How a single word comes out in a novel can depend on a lot of
things..."

To learn a language is to embrace the whole aspects of culture!

I hope you'll take a look at this article and perhaps enjoy reading it
till the end!;)

Here it is:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/books/translating-english-into-english/article1362291/

Beautiful Sunday and nice week ahead!
Pln

[chenzheng2008]

Dear all friends,

 

I miss you all badly. Since I have a very busy week, I almost have to no time to write email. Pln, it seemed that I can not log on orkut sometimes, I don't konw why?

 

Have a nice day to all.

 

Jason C. 

>
>Beautiful Sunday and nice week ahead!
>Pln
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[Xia Jun]

            Hi Jason C, people who can not log on the web banned by your censorship,

 

            Follow the steps on the link https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/windows-xp  .

           

            I tested it successfully when skimming on the Facebook but it runs more slowly then normal, you know.

           

It can be helpful I hope

            Jun

[pln471]

Hello Jason Jun June Bruno Charles Vera Claire Oshiro and all,

Thank you,Jun for your instant guidance!;)

I had the same problem a few weeks ago waiting for orkut to finish
downloading files or something.
Vera mentioned she couldn't log on to it,either,earlier.

Jason,we miss you a lot,too!Your birthday is next Sunday,isn't it?;)
Any special requests or wishes for your 24th birthday?
Bruno is another Saggitarius like you.(I saw his Skype personal
data;))

I was meaning to answer Oshiro's one curious question:
The languages I see in my pfofile on my facebook are so many:
Chinese,Vietnamese,Polish,Italian,Turkish,Russian,Czech,Indonesian,Portugese,Flemish,and
etc!LOL
But I use English only whenever I write to them...
After all,it's English that brought us together,isn't it?LOL
Anyone interested in experiencing 'the melting pot' of MY
facebook,just look for me with my e-mail address!;)
I welcome all members of all nationalities!

Good day,everyone!
Pln

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[chenzheng2008]

Dear Pln and all,

 

Actually, that will be my 23th birthday, you might know there is a culture in China that is people always tend to tell others their "Void Age", maybe my translate is not right, in another words, that is people always tell others their actual age add one year. Could you understand me? And what about other lovely friends?

 

Have a nice day to all!!

 

Jason C.

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[chenzheng2008]

Dear Jun, thank you so much!!LOL

[Rafael Oshiro]

Hello Pln, Jason, Jun and all

First of all, I had never imagined a novel needed to be translated from English into English. If there are many words, slangs and idioms that need to be changed between British, Australian and US English, what can be said about other languages such as Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, etc... How much meaning of a novel can be missed when it´s translated?

 

You´re right, English brought us togueter although all these languages ou have in your facebook profile. Indeed, English is the universal language, isn´t it?

 

Jason, why do people in China say their actual age plus 1? Here it´s common to see the opposite, people hiding their real age as they get older. LOL
And Happy birthday!!

Have a nice Tuesday!
Oshiro

2009/11/17 chenzheng2008 <chenzh...@126.com>

[Xia Jun]

            Dear Charles, Jason C, Chenzheng, all

 

           Jason C, Is this working? I mean the tip can resolve your problem. I remembered that Facebook is banned in your country, China, as Charles said.

            Charles, you can try following the steps on the link, I hope that it can pass the censorship’s eyes LOL

Internet is very big world. It is unable to hinder or cover every road leading to the Roma citadel LOL

 

            Good health and take care

[chenzheng2008]

Hello Pln Oshiro and all,

 

Oshiro,thank you very much. With reference to your question, I would like to tell you the specific reason, but actually I don't konw exactly either. Maybe because of the culture difference. It is just a tridition which is handed from our old generation. However, nowadays due to the communication between the east and west cultures, more and more Chinese women tend to become the opposite as you mentioned.LOL

 

Have a nice day to all !!!

 

Jason C.

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[pln471]

What animated discussions on censorship and age you have had here!LOL

Since you brought it up,Jason,I did recall this old custom of Chinese
culture!
If I remember it correctly,according to Chinese,since you were in your
mother's womb,you're considered 1 year old already.
Perhaps that's why we are always 1 year older than our real age.:)

However,since I began to learn English and other langauges,I also have
learned to tell my age in a western way.
It's as logical as telling foreigners which floor/storey we live on.If
we don't specify it,it's very confusing just like you confused me
earlier!LOL

That is simply another aspect of another culture which we need to pay
attention to when we acquire another language and I myslef find it
interesting.:)

As for a woman keeping her age as a secret or lying about her age,I
find it hilarious whenever I hear them say,"I'm 18 this year and I
shall be 18 forever!"
By the way,I'm 43 and heading for 44 on January 5th!LOL

And Jun,I would like to you to help Hoang,Lalala Ly and other
Vietnamese friends out on facebook by giving them a link to bypass the
censorship.

Thank you all and what a quiet day here today...
Good night!
Pln

On Nov 18, 3:45 pm, chenzheng2008 <chenzheng2...@126.com> wrote:
> Hello Pln Oshiro and all,
>
> Oshiro,thank you very much. With reference to your question, I would like to tell you the specific reason, but actually I don't konw exactly either. Maybe because of the culture difference. It is just a tridition which is handed from our old generation. However, nowadays due to the communication between the east and west cultures, more and more Chinese women tend to become the opposite as you mentioned.LOL
>
> Have a nice day to all !!!
>
> Jason C.
>

> 在2009-11-18 00:38:01，"Rafael Oshiro" <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> Hello Pln, Jason, Jun and all
>
> First of all, I had never imagined a novel needed to be translated from English into English. If there are many words, slangs and idioms that need to be changed between British, Australian and US English, what can be said about other languages such as Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, etc... How much meaning of a novel can be missed when it´s translated?
>
> You´re right, English brought us togueter although all these languages ou have in your facebook profile. Indeed, English is the universal language, isn´t it?
>
> Jason, why do people in China say their actual age plus 1? Here it´s common to see the opposite, people hiding their real age as they get older. LOL
> And Happy birthday!!
>
> Have a nice Tuesday!
> Oshiro
>

> 2009/11/17 chenzheng2008 <chenzheng2...@126.com>

>
> Dear Jun, thank you so much!!LOL
>

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[chenzheng2008]

Hello Jun Pln Oshiro Claire and all,

 

I see, Pln, that's exactly what I wanna say.LOL

 

Tnank you very much!!

 

Have a nice weekend to all.

 

Jason C.

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[Xia Jun]

Dear Pln, and all

Charles and Jason C, Vera, perhaps Vietnam and China have common in culture. We also add one year to the real age and the added age is used to calculate the year appropriate for married. So, it is the difference from Western's culture.
Dear Pln, as I wrote before, you can send them the link and following the steps. I also did like that and pass successfully.
Or if they need a help more details, you can send them my skype account. I can assist them freely, especially the girls LOL

Nice weekend!
Jun

[Charles]

Dear all,

About the question how old are you ... It's a complicate question. older lady want to be yong, but little girl and young man want to be the big one, who always pretend that they are old enough to take the responsibility. 

My opinion is ... the older, the better. I looks like a old man but being full of energy. So, for the people who is born in 1985-9-28, Their age is 24.xx .

Nice day to you good people

Charles

[pln471]

Hello all sweet boys and girls,LOL

If the older means the wiser,that's wonderful...like me!LOL

I am regarded as a crazy and energetic teacher by all my Polish
students,old or young!

There's one group of 7 students that I started to co-teach with a
Polish teacher last month.
They began to speak English with an amusingly lively intonation and I
realized later that they picked it up from me!LOL

Oh,Jun,you're hopelessly hilarious!
For someone who's so eager to 'help'girls,what are you waiting for?!
LOL

Wonderful weekend to you(Jason,Jun,Charles,June,Claire) and all
others!
Pln

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[Xia Jun]

Dear Pln and all,

Help me keep secret. I don’t know what will happen if she hear about this.
Just for fun. I still love my honey and her too ^^

Now I am very eager to join the talk group through skype or paltalk. My speaking skill is becoming poorer.

The shine has appeared and heated up the air. It is a good signal for a new week.

Have a new week to you all,
JUN

[Charles]

Hi dear friends

Good news

My household registration moving is progressing.

Nice day to you and all

Charles

[Rafael Oshiro]

Hello all young and older members

 

Pln, good explanation! I have the same feeling towards learning another language which is not just about learning the language itself but learn the culture as well. So, if I was in China, I´d say I´m 27.

 

Charles, you mentioned another interesting point about men and women behaviours when it comes to telling their ages to other.

 

Have a nice week ahead

Oshiro

[Chaya Eitan]

Excuse me, but I have taken myself off of these groups but I am still getting mailings.  Please stop mailing to me.  I don't have time at the moment.  Thank you. Chaya --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Rafael Oshiro <rafael...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Charles]

Hi all dear friends

Let's begin the party having english group talks. What are we still waiting for?

Oshiro, I really believe that man who looks older is better for their social relationships. Other people want man being mature and taking responsibility. 

Nobody believes young boys. And no matter we admit or not, we judge people from their appearance in such a high speed developing sociality.

Nice day to you and all

Your dear friend

Charles

[Charles]

Hi all dear friends

Let's begin the party having english group talks. What are we still waiting for?

Oshiro, I really believe that man who looks older is better for their
social relationships. Other people want man being mature and taking
responsibility.
Nobody believes young boys. And no matter we admit or not, we judge
people from their appearance in such a high speed developing
sociality.

Nice day to you and all
Your dear friend
Charles

[pln471]

Hello Charles Jun Chaya Oshiro and all others,

Chaya,so sorry to learn that you don't have time for this group at the
moment.
Click on the top right 'Edit my membership',you will see the box
'unsubscribe' at the bottom.
http://groups.google.com/group/eslpodcast/subscribe
Click on it,and it's done!:(

Charles,it's sad but you had a point there that people generally judge
a book by its cover...
Why do you think a lot of men in some countries grow beards?:)
One of the reasons is to hide their younger age.

Jun,if she's that easily jealous,...which I doubt it...get rid of her!
Or maybe I should ask her to get rid of you!LOL

Sorry,merely joking,of course!

Oshiro,now you're confusing me!
You're 28,but wish to claim 1 year younger if you would ever go to
China...just to achieve the opposite!
Am I right or wrong?:(

One news to break to you all interested in Skype group talks.
My husband's Asian trip is cancelled,and I won't be able to join you
on the weekend night talks.
As long as it's day time during the week days,it'll be better for me.
Let me check my schedule first and I'll get back to you on the precise
day and time ASAP!:(

Great week ahead and good night!
Pln

On Nov 23, 2:29 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all dear friends
>
> Let's begin the party having english group talks. What are we still waiting for?
>
> Oshiro, I really believe that man who looks older is better for their
> social relationships. Other people want man being mature and taking
> responsibility.
> Nobody believes young boys. And no matter we admit or not, we judge
> people from their appearance in such a high speed developing
> sociality.
>
> Nice day to you and all
> Your dear friend
> Charles
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all dear friends
> > Let's begin the party having english group talks. What are we still waiting for?
> > Oshiro, I really believe that man who looks older is better for their social relationships. Other people want man being mature and taking responsibility.
> > Nobody believes young boys. And no matter we admit or not, we judge people from their appearance in such a high speed developing sociality.
> > Nice day to you and all
> > Your dear friend
> > Charles
>

> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hello all young and older members
>
> >> Pln, good explanation! I have the same feeling towards learning another language which is not just about learning the language itself but learn the culture as well. So, if I was in China, I´d say I´m 27.
>
> >> Charles, you mentioned another interesting point about men and women behaviours when it comes to telling their ages to other.
>
> >> Have a nice week ahead
> >> Oshiro
>

> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Hi dear friends
> >>> Good news
> >>> My household registration moving is progressing.
> >>> Nice day to you and all
> >>> Charles
>

> ...
>
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[Chaya Eitan]

I did that a few days ago.  But I'm still getting these e-mailings.  Chaya --- On Mon, 11/23/09, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Rafael Oshiro]

Hello Pln, Claire, Charles, Jun, Jason and all

 

Pln, I´m 26 according to ocidental culture and 27 in Chinese culture, because if I got it right, in China people claim to be 1 year older because they start counting since the baby is in her mom´s womb, isn´t it? 

 

Charles, I agree with you, a mature one cause other a good sense of responsability and trustworthy. I recall when I was working at one company where they hired a new manager to take over our department. We were drawing a picture of a very serious mid-age man as the stereotypes we are used to see. When he presented himself for us, we got impressed by his young age and at first glance, I thought he wouldn´t be able to be in charge of that area. As time passed by, he showed everybody he was a great professional with much responsability and good skills for his position.

Pleasant day for you all

Oshiro

2009/11/23 pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>