Arma 3 Star Wars Rp Server
Darci Carlton
1. star wars mods - never. For A3, the workshop is not directly under BI control, these are not allowed on A3 just like they are not allowed on reforger. The difference stems from the type of control that BI has over the workshop
2. halo mods - whenever you (or someone else) start making these. (microsoft license allows such mods btw)
so much drama, sure the idea of a star wars mod is very cool, and i know stolen content is bad, but why so much hate and drama on both sides? its a damn war of the ego's right now and its very sad! I support nether side but i did like the star wars mod when it was up, realism and modern mods where getting very boring to me so this added character, but then i find the drama, UGH i propose this, both sides make a peace pack to end the drama!
This really isn't about two teams needing to make up. This is about one team stealing assets, both from the mod team BHI* and from other video games. This 'opposition' mod doesnt have any real argument for them, as they are just pirates and nothing else. People might want a star wars mod, sure, but that doesnt absolve all the legal and moral issues with content theft.
I just made an account to respond to this, legally any and all content they've made star wars related belongs to Disney. So unless you want Disney lawyers starting to look at you, which if I recall correctly was the reason why IA was shut down in the first place (that being they didn't want to get hit with legal issues)
So while yes its shitty that there has been content stolen, the most they can do is have the mod taken down. Suing will just lead to Disney coming around and fucking the rest of the star wars modding community once they've seen money is being made off it, and as a lead dev for a big MoW star wars mod the last thing I need is having the last 2 years of work be shut down by Disney.
In the end its a shitty situation no matter what, you've already had tens of thousands of people download it so the only thing you can do is try to keep it off steam. But I can guarantee they'll just upload it to their VK page and other people will have it uploaded on MEGA or google docs.
In a worst case scenario every assets and his creators involved ( with permission or not) can be sued against you and have a lot of troubles, in my own legal experience in a trial everything can be used against you in a trial, that why I make the previous post.
A lot of bullshit could be avoided if people just pull the stuff they haven't created themselves when asked in a reasonable way. But unfortunately they don't. And have preferred instead, to keep the ball rolling. Out of spite perhaps. As far as I'm aware most modders ask for the material to be removed without being abusive. What they say after that is likely based on the response they get.
I know for a fact that Pomigit in particular, was getting an incredibly childish response simply because the BHI team decided to call their project off. That was well before all this silliness. Which is now adding to it. Either it's a bunch of children who don't know any better. Or adults with no self control.
The people doing most of the whining won't have to face any legal ramifications. If it came to that, I'm sure they'd wander off and find something else, after a good moan about it. But they won't be left holding the proverbial bag.
One thing that doesn't seem to have sunk in, is that they're actually making it more visible by being combative. If that's their intent, it's at least one thing they're doing right.Their own negativity is more likely to cause the opposite effect to the one they want.
We've already "lost" excellent modders over that kind of nonsense - and now Pomigit seems to be giving up too. This is doing more damage than good, all over the board, and I think we are in fact pretty civil, all things considered
It is definitely sad, Firstly I personally really hate the fact that license owners like Disney are so repressive towards modders who are creating their own content from the Hobbyist perspective. I think they should actually motivate this kind of work and they should be more proud of what is being created by these people and instead of putting them down they should offer these Creators Legal protection from such nonsense if they do create it from the ground up. There should also be some sort of protection towards intellectual property theft for modders when it comes to creating these MODS, however, as long if we do not see such a legal structure around the work delivered we will keep seeing these things and legal issues will keep rising up whether we like it or not, while it is sad, we personally as the user can not do anything about it but I do believe "and this is like with everything" if modders stand up against it together things can change but only those involved in such an undertaking can do something about it.
Crowdfund legal actions against dumbwits like Disney and shut them up for once and for all so they can not take the hard work away, force something out of the sleeves of the hard working modders who do it with their heart and soul that's the only way I see something changing as for the nitwits that like to steal intellectual property goods I want to be clear I talk about those modders that really create their own stuff, or at least refer to the original creator of the MOD being used as those do earn that respect, your kind definitely not!
I think you are missing the point, being repressive towards modders who create their OWN content for free WITHOUT COSTS to be used in another game which is not even related to them except of the fact that it is based on something that they created hardly reflects their copyrights nor does it harm their IP in any way, sorry but I can not really agree with that statement that they are protecting their products when it is not created by their hand meaning created from the bottom up by modders from the hobbyist perspective.
I do understand that a developer wants to protect their product but in my book this does not apply to this case, if I would follow that logic I wouldn't be able to create my son's or daughter's own lightsaber or Jedi costume and play with it just because Disney didn't give me the permission for it. The content created by these modders are in my eyes created from the ground up and is not theirs to claim in my opinion, modders should be lawfully be protected to make such things without the worry to be prosecuted because they want to offer friends or communities their OWN created content and play together.
Plain and simple yes, people like you and Disney see these topics to black and white while there should be a more gray area around this which would be perfectly co-existant with the protection of the copyright laws, in this case, it is not because they say no that it should be a no because they said so. This is NOT about their content being misused it's about content created by others "who are, I agree, strongly relying on visual aspects created by Disney in their movies, cartoons, and games alike," offered freely in another game for personal use with friends and community without cost.
Copyrights should not be restricted and implemented in such a repressive way in this case as it doesn't really harm Disney or businesses like them financially or at least I can not see something bad coming from it as long if it is used in such a way as described. Look at Mass Effect which is another nice IP I can name a few game where MOD developers recreated that world in another game e.g. Stellaris, Homeworld. Same goes for example Lord of the Rings which is also is owned by Disney those modders recreated LOTR's word nicely in Medieval II Total War, also known as Third Age Total War, strangely Disney did not put a DMCA on it at all but they did surprisingly put a DMCA on a modification which would recreate Lord of the Rings in Skyrim, which proves kinda exactly my point!
I can not get rid of the idea that Disney uses copyrights in similar cases based on clouded judgements, not backed up by decent arguments that would harm them in a way that these modders are in the wrongdoing, in such a case we even have a law here, when freely translated, it means "The Wrong Uses of Right" in this case the wrong use of the copyright infringement which leads to a unrightfully take Dawns based on their personal opinion, not because it really harms their business or their IP in general.
Fans of this port, in particular, are harassing the wrong people. Some have mentioned how "small" or unimportant the BHI content was. If that's the case, what's the reasoning behind dragging these situations out? I don't understand it. It's contradictory. Besides that, the people who create something from nothing have a little more say in this than someone simply packaging it up.
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