Anyone alive?
Rajesh Mulchandani
Looks like a good initiative has died a premature death….like every other project there is lot of euphoria and everyone is very excited during discussion phase…but when it comes to execution it all dies down….
Is this project dead? I am sorry if I sound rude but I feel bad that I raised hopes of someone in need ….
Rajesh Mulchandani
07905 552580
“Nothing ventured nothing gained”
Suresh Chawrai
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SURESH R. CHAWRAI
PhD Scholar
University Chemical Laboraory,
Lensfield Road, University of Cambridge Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK
Emmanuel College
13 Park Terrace, Basement Flat,
CB1 1JH, Cambridge
Email: sr...@cam.ac.uk
Shaijesh Wankhede
no one member is interested to do the work voluntarily, one should take initiative to do work for the trust himself and do something for the trust.
I request please tell me something which would be possible to me to do something for the trust.
thank you.
Shaijesh S Wankhede
PhD Scholar,
UICT, Matunga,
MUMBAI
Abdul Rehman Nagori
we can get lot of support from peoples around the world of this ,in start we obviously cant accept any donations online till its registered as trust. so initially our site can work as our face to tell the world about our objectives with an open discussion.
What the view of others ??
Regards,
A.Rehman Nagori
M.Pharma (Pharma Chem) Scholar
NMIMS Univ. , Mumbai
www.pharma-world.org
Suresh Chawrai
It would be great if you can join Vijayendra (if he agrees to do the
registration part for the Trust) to assist him in Registration of this
Trust. I know this is going to cost some money, but I am sure this
would be not very high that you both can not handle it. I am going to
be in India in Dec (for 2 weeks), I can join you two guys to assit you
physically as well as financially if required.
If the money spent is more than the membership fee, then we should be
repaying the concerned members.
Suresh
On 1 Oct, 04:47, "Shaijesh Wankhede" <shaij...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ya , this is a fact...
> no one member is interested to do the work voluntarily, one should take
> initiative to do work for the trust himself and do something for the trust.
> I request please tell me something which would be possible to me to do
> something for the trust.
> thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Suresh Chawrai <srcni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, I and Vijayenda Chavan have been thinking of developing the Trust
> > without getting involved in this discussion phase..... as most of the active
> > members as well stopped doing anything other than just giving suggestions. I
> > do admit that suggestions are invaluable part of the trust's
> > development. But at the same time when there is a need requied from
> > the members to do some home work..... no one responds.
>
> > I know trying to develop this trust with inputs from just 2 or 3 members is
> > going to take a very long time, even though I am positive about this.
>
> > Suresh
>
> >> Looks like a good initiative has died a premature death….like every
> >> other project there is lot of euphoria and everyone is very excited during
> >> discussion phase…but when it comes to execution it all dies down….
>
> >> Is this project dead? I am sorry if I sound rude but I feel bad that I
> >> raised hopes of someone in need ….
>
> >> Rajesh Mulchandani
>
> >> 07905 552580
>
>
> > --
> --
> Shaijesh S Wankhede
> PhD Scholar,
> UICT, Matunga,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Suresh Chawrai
the post from Rajesh in this regard. Please make any suggestions if
required or offer some help if possible.
I forgot to mention in my response to Rajesh's post that we would need
some space for advertisements for some of our sponsors. Could Rajesh
please have this in mind while discussing with the website developer.
Suresh
On 1 Oct, 08:04, "Abdul Rehman Nagori" <pseudofa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What has happened about the plan of Putting up of a website for the trust ,
> i think that a website can be a good way to propagate our views to more and
> more people and also to start a site we dont need a registered trust name.
> we can get lot of support from peoples around the world of this ,in start we
> obviously cant accept any donations online till its registered as trust. so
> initially our site can work as our face to tell the world about our
> objectives with an open discussion.
>
> What the view of others ??
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ya , this is a fact...
> > no one member is interested to do the work voluntarily, one should take
> > initiative to do work for the trust himself and do something for the trust.
> > I request please tell me something which would be possible to me to do
> > something for the trust.
> > thank you.
>
>
> >> Well, I and Vijayenda Chavan have been thinking of developing the Trust
> >> without getting involved in this discussion phase..... as most of the active
> >> members as well stopped doing anything other than just giving suggestions. I
> >> do admit that suggestions are invaluable part of the trust's
> >> development. But at the same time when there is a need requied from
> >> the members to do some home work..... no one responds.
>
> >> I know trying to develop this trust with inputs from just 2 or 3 members
> >> is going to take a very long time, even though I am positive about this.
>
> >> Suresh
>
> >>> Looks like a good initiative has died a premature death….like every
> >>> other project there is lot of euphoria and everyone is very excited during
> >>> discussion phase…but when it comes to execution it all dies down….
>
> >>> Is this project dead? I am sorry if I sound rude but I feel bad that I
> >>> raised hopes of someone in need ….
>
> >>> Rajesh Mulchandani
>
> >>> 07905 552580
>
>
> >> SURESH R. CHAWRAI
> >> PhD Scholar
> >> University Chemical Laboraory,
> >> Lensfield Road, University of Cambridge Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK
>
> >> Emmanuel College
> >> 13 Park Terrace, Basement Flat,
> >> CB1 1JH, Cambridge
> >> Email: sr...@cam.ac.uk
>
> > --
> > Shaijesh S Wankhede
> > PhD Scholar,
> > UICT, Matunga,
> > MUMBAI
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> A.Rehman Nagori
>
> M.Pharma (Pharma Chem) Scholar
Shaijesh Wankhede
i will dicuss about this n try to register the trust..
thank you.
shaijesh
Vijayendrakumar
Well guys very good evening from India, And I hope all are doing fine..
After long I am writing lines for trust , as was and am little busy with my own work because of increase in responsibilities in company.
Anyways, for registering the trust. I have friends at all levels in Trust registering body, can get this work done in one day. not a problem, but I just saw that Abdul is also proposing to register it in MP, so first we have to decide on that.
If in case members decides to do it in MS I will do it and will be responsible for it further.. But let me tell you. Per Maharashtra trust registration regulation, when we register the trust we will have to make it working for atleast three years to get the funding from out of India as legal funding which will have Tax exemption and complete money can be utilised for novel cause. Now the question is if this happens after three years then how will we do it in three years span ( like distribution of money, expense for administration work, daily or monthly or yearly maintenance cost etc....) in this case what generally people do in MS that they route money to some people in India who donate that money to trust. but the problem is what ever money we route to someone in India he as to pay Tax on that.. means eventually we also have to incur the cost of TAX for Indian govt. This what I got from my friend who is director , member, founder ..... and actively running trust in India by name ASTHA.. which takes care of all water problem in rural maharashtra and also get tender from Maharashtra Govt under the agis of NGO umbrealla and do some social work .... This is just for information.
And Shaijesh,
Thanks for your participation in trust's brain storming activity.. I hope you also will be involved in trust work very actively as sooon as you finish you PhD.. irrespective of your area of work...
also we have some friends.. in Mumbai who will also be involved in this work...
And Suresh,
This trust registration can also be done without presence. here you just need to sighn an appliation form and send it here... but only for getting money transfer license they need people in person, which we will get after three years of registration, as per rule they see people who will be responsible for proper disposal of money..
I think we will also need some legal expert other than social activist .. so try to get some one who is Bachelor or Masters in Law only in friend circle.. as professional layers is bit anaffordable at this point of time.. as we need to sign some legal documents as well.. need to print some receipt books with proper registration no.. and all legal compulsary words on receipt.. ( a bit of administraton work.. boys after all its money matter at last.. )
And I also saw the name of trust.. I think Maharashtra Govt has list we have to select name from their list... they don't accept vague name... (I am not really sure about it but just heard from friend)... need to check it.. but I guess we should first register the trust name in Govt register and then think of website name.. else the money will be waste...
And yes for registering the trust we need around 4000 Rs.. which includes agents fees also... as we will be doing it in abasense of members we need to feed them something... Guys this how really works here I am not sure about MP, I guess abdul you should also write how it happens there.. then we can zero in on something.. which will be feasible...
ok guys.. bye
Vijendra
"The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. "
- Franklin P. Jones
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Abdul Rehman Nagori
As per scenario in M.P.
there the law for registration of society and trust are separate unlike maharashtra where both are common.
the officail regiatration fee is somethng around 1500, while around 1000 or so they ask as bribe (else thy will put it pending or keep finding errors in ur forms).the official reigastration process takes around 1 month. but the FCRA approval is a national rule so it takes the same time span of 3 years anywhere we register it.
So in first instance it looks that doing it from M.P. will be saving our some money, but other point is that as of now im the only member belonging to that state and most of the persons are from maharashtra mainly, so if u go to M.P. then it wiould be difficualt to do the adminstrative work from there. while another point is that now i have also shifted to mumbai, so the best option for all of us is to register it from mumbai only.although i dnt have any contact here, but since vijayendra is having contacts so i dont feel that it would be any problem then.
im fully available for the trust work may be it is related to webdesigning help or registration of trust or any other service needed .
regarding the site, already lot of points are discussed and just waiting for the views of Kirti kumar who was the main person to finalize about the website work. Hope to get reply from Kirti kumar on this so that we can move further ahead.
Mahesh Chawrai
who r u friend?have we met ever?