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Why not convert Epcot into a park that showcases the best Disney attractions from France, Japan and China?Imagine an Epcot with Mystic Manor, Ratatouille, the Disneyland Paris castle complete with animatronic dragon, Journey to the Center of the Earth, 10000 Leagues under the Sea, etc.
98.249.235.55May 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM This was perfect. Thank you!! Epcot needs a Horizons/World of Motion revival! What I wouldn't give to see the headlines now "Epcot is bringing back Horizons!!" Oh the excitement there would be.:D
Michael LongoMay 27, 2015 at 11:54 PM As nostalgic as I am i know that putting the old rides back brick for brick wouldnt happen, No matter how much Id love it......and agreed technology does move very fast. I guess I just don't think its too fast. There are several new attractions out in the last 10-15 years that don't seem dated, and they'd need to have some rapidly changing attractions, a better use of innoventions for example. For big ticket rides remember that the most far out impossible technology in human creation started with imagination. Ideas are what make the world advance, and lots of creative people can dream up things that are way off in the future to entertain the masses. Thats what the imagineers used to do and that's how they entertained people for decades. They were ahead of the curve. Just my opinion.
85.150.173.168May 28, 2015 at 12:51 AM Great article. I feel the moment Roy Disney died and the board of directors had no Disney presence anymore the whole spitit of what Walt wanted the parks to be went out of the window.
Now they don't build family rides but focus group rides.
They don't build parades but commercial floats.
No themed area's but places to envoce spending extra money due to subliminal messages.When I first went to Epcot Center I was blown away.
The last time I went Soarin had openend (a bad tech demo, no story not even transitions between the shots) and Mission Space (that ride is so bad). I desided not to go back anymore. The Living seas was infested by the most ugly dark ride ever and Imagination was neutered beyond recognition and the list goes on.
No I don't want the old Epcot Center back. It would be a museum, I want pavilions that are up to date and breath exploration and the adventure of science. It doesn't need to be on the edge of tommorow and could be made future proof but those value's are what it's all about. For me it hurts to much to go back now.The same goes for the other parks. DHS is not even worth the effort and I don't like what they do at Star Wars Weekends. Please go the Potter road if you want real fan's in your parks. I've never seen Potter cupcakes or a minion dressed as valdemort. No dinner in Mells Diner with character roaming around.
And have you seen the entrance of the princes meet and greet at MK. How would the old 9 approche that entrance? It would be a grand and elegant entrance. Beautiful and enchanting. NOT a tiara that makes you buy a plastic copy for your princes. Even the inside is a confusing mess of gothing, Lois the XIV and other styles, something the castle and it's interieur doesn't have.
Bradley WilbanksMay 28, 2015 at 3:49 AM Here Here, very well said! EPCOT is dying and I don't think it necessarily begins with Frozen taking over Norway, I think it begins with Future World just being non existent. I'm only 25 but have been blessed with a family that loved Disney and went multiple times a year through my childhood, and still to this day Figment holds a special place in my heart, not because he was a silly purple dragon character. But rather because of what he stood for, that with imagination you can do anything.Also if you look at human culture in general, as Americans, the World, etc. Ever since the Space Race Days what have we done to challenge our selves? Sure we have super amazing computer technology and communications; but when and what will be that next big challenge?
James KoehlMay 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM One of the best written, most thought-provoking articles in TPI for a long time. Well done!
Brian EmeryMay 28, 2015 at 6:10 AM Nice article, I enjoyed it, too bad the second half of that movie was not as good as the first half... Many times Disney movies as way too predictable.
Yes they do try to give young folks a positive message...Which is great, but they do not have to be so damn predictable. When I was leaving the theater all I could think of - Disney just made a movie to see more Pins...
104.246.76.52May 28, 2015 at 6:15 AM Well said. As a former Cast Member (I did the College Program in 2001) I worked in Future World I have seen the downward spiral start from before I was even there. Though when I was Mission Space was starting to go up and Horirzons had been out the door. I was horrified when I went back years later and saw my beloved attraction (The Living Seas) which had all of this awesome scientific fantasy - "hydrolators" that brought you beneath the surface, an underwater seabase, an educational movie (granted that not many people watched) turned into a Finding Nemo advertisement. The thing that got me the most was on the original ride the entire tank was open to you to watch all of the marine life doing their thing. In the Nemo version THE ENTIRE TANK IS COVERED UP and it its place? Fake fish. It is just so far off from the original idea you almost say aloud to yourself - "How did it come to this?"I just remembered the room where you first walked in where there was all this nautical equipment from the early days of underwater exploration which was all very cool to look at. In it's place now is....nothing.Great article, apologies for the rant.
Dan HeatonMay 28, 2015 at 6:45 AM Great points! I was thinking very similar thoughts in terms of Tomorrowland and how it's lost some impact, but Future World is an even better example. I'd be thrilled to have any signs that the powers that be at Disney recognize what they could do with EPCOT. I still like the park, but it's lost the wonder that it brought for me as a kid in the '80s. My first trip was in 1984 as an eight-year-old, and I still have memories of that experience.
Jonah SirotaMay 28, 2015 at 7:40 AM I loved this article, and I agree with you and have thought a lot about the issues you raise. I view the Tomorrowland film, as well as the Figment line of limited-edition Marvel comics (based on the original Journey Into Imagination), as an attempt by Disney to rebuild a franchise out of some of the old EPCOT and Tomorrowland stuff. Seeing how Iger has made franchise-building his M.O. as far as new theme-park construction goes, I think the jury is still out on whether EPCOT gets a wholesale reboot. Right now, Magic Kingdom has a premium price over the other three WDW parks. I take that as a tacit acknowledgment by Disney that that park is the only one that currently feels complete or whole. After AK gets Avatar, it will be more complete, the same is true with DHS and Star Wars, at which time I would expect those parks to also charge more. I think the EPCOT strategy is furthest behind, but hopefully the powers that be know that. (The Frozen stuff and the third Soarin' theatre are hardly a park-wide strategy.) Unfortunately, I don't know if Tomorrowland is doing well enough as a film to create a "brand" to build on at EPCOT. I hope it does, I really do. The movie was so close to being really good, but just didn't quite deliver, IMHO. So I do worry about it. Perhaps the most frustrating thing is knowing that there are probably amazing "shovel-ready" EPCOT future world attractions that have been imagineered over the years which will never get built. However, the fact that Disney seems to care so much these days about nostalgia, and about the company's legacy not just in animated film but in the history of optimism and futurism, is a sign that all may not be lost. Perhaps they are waiting for the right moment, when optimism about the future is on the up-swing again, to remake EPCOT as a shining example of Disney's history in shaping post-WWII America. On the bright side, Spaceship Earth is not going away (as Horizons and Imagination should not have), and I think Disney finally realizes that, like It's a Small World and Peter Pan's Flight, there are some attractions that are timeless and need to be preserved.
Anon MouseMay 28, 2015 at 10:50 AM Horizons was the best idealized attraction to close, but Spaceship Earth, Energy, Imagination, Living Seas, and Living with the Land remain. I do think Test Track is a very good attraction. Imagination was ruined, but they could make another attempt to revive it. My own opinion is Figment should go away too. I'm tired of being admonished that I have no imagination without their help and they managed to show me a crappy ride. Spaceship Earth was updated in a good way.My feeling is Future World has served it purpose and it was a relic of the past. "Tomorrowland" was released near the conclusion of the Hunger Games dystopian trilogy. You can't have the idealized world without the dark undercurrents at the gates. To save Future World, it needs to address real problems instead of just hand waving it away. Or they can just focus on having a top notch theme park.
166.170.5.29May 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM I agree with you completely on this article. Not just EPCOT, but the Tomorrowland in Anaheim is suffering the same dillema. The spirit of inspiration and optimism that once was present in both places is now gone, leaving a decaying shell of what once was.The funny thing is, that during the movie when Frank, Britt, and Athena reach the decaying Tomorrowland aboard the rocket, my wife and I turned to each other and said "There's how the real Tomorrowland and Epcot look today..." I'm glad I was able to see both during their heydays, but this should serve as a wake up call to the Disney suits who ironically seem to have "given up" on the future by sacrificing optimism, inspiration, and long term profits for quick cash grabs. By the standards of the movie, that was the very reason for the decay of "Tomorrowland".
66.87.107.13May 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM I like this article, but I disagree with it. The spirit of Epcot hasn't changed. Now, I'm a teenager, so I couldn't go to Epcot in the '80s like the rest of you. I never went on Horizons, World of Motion, or the original Imagination. But I've still learned a great deal from this park. I've learned that energy exists all around us, comes in many different forms, and is necessary in our everyday lives, the types of crazy things imagination can do, and that Notre Dame took quite some punishment during the French Revolution. I love Epcot because it's such an engaging way to learn. I'm not just taking a test or sitting through some lecture. It's fun and interactive. All of the attractions in some way educate you . Sure, Mission: Space doesn't teach you anything about space itself, but it does give you a feel for what space is like. The only exception is Soarin. Even though it's my favorite ride in the park, I feel like the only reason why it's in Epcot is because it seems to be the only Orlando park where it could somehow fit. As for the Frozen ride, I have a slight suspicion that, instead of making it another movie ride through, it's gonna be the characters giving guests a tour through Norway. Or at least I hope so! Otherwise it should've been built in Fantasyland. Point is, while you do have some pretty solid reasons to worry, Epcot still hasn't lost it's spirit. You talk of how "Tomorrowland" told you to have hope, so have hope that Epcot will still be the educational fun it's always been
76.6.101.36May 28, 2015 at 12:58 PM I remember Eastern's Trip into interspace. You got in this little bubble like car, rode into a telescope like ramp up, on the outside it showed the cars real small. As you went through, you were smaller then a snow flake. It was wild. As was 360 vision. You could feel the finger grooves that were dug in under the railing you stood behind. WILD! those were the good old MK days. yes, It would have been great seeing the "City Of The Future" you saw as you left Space Mtn. At first that is what I thought Celebration was going to be. I grew up 4 hours away, so was always going up there, to MK, when Epcot opened up.
86.136.38.101May 28, 2015 at 1:21 PM Two words to blame for the fiasco - BOB IGER. The CEO has no interest in theme parks.
Paul DannerMay 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM Great article, Michael! When I saw Tomorrowland, I felt exactly same way. I loved the EPCOT of old, Horizons was my favorite ride too. You can ride rides anywhere, but the pavilions at EPCOT used to entertain AND teach something at the same time. All I learned from riding Mission Space was... don't ever ride Mission Space again.
Eric MaloneMay 28, 2015 at 6:19 PM Actually fixing up EPCOT isn't a particularly difficult mess to clean, but the more I look at EPCOT the more I think that they're not entirely certain what to do, while at the same time, still have an idea of what made the old EPCOT great. You can still find a lot of the old EPCOT in the parks, just not in the same nostalgic form that the article and replies have taken on.Yeah, we don't have Horizons, Journey into Imagination is a shell of its former self, and Disney/Pixar stuff has gradually been moving in, but let's not forget the things that keep EPCOT still focused on the future.For starters, Spaceship Earth encompasses still what EPCOT used to be all about: teaching you something about the past (or the present, or both), while still looking ahead at the future.People dump all over Test Track, but its newest rendition is considerably more future-oriented than its originator. It's easy to feel otherwise because it's more focused toward kids and letting them have fun making a car and watching it go, but look at the queue and the stuff before the gift shop. Much of it's very 'Here's the future of cars, in case you were wondering!'. What is EPCOT if not looking into the future? Test Track still does that.Mission: Space does what it sets out to do. Its futuristic tone needs some updating, what with the EM Drive and its future forms set to revolutionize space travel and how we experience travel on Earth in general, while still being a thrill ride, something EPCOT, honestly, was sorely lacking. I don't like that it replaced what it replaced as much as you folks do, but c'est la vie.Finally, the World Showcase has changed some since it first opened to the public, but each showcase is supposed to do three things: entertain, teach, and feed, and considering how heavily focused most World Showcases are on their cuisine, the latter of those two walk hand-in-hand.So saying 'EPCOT is dead!' or 'EPCOT is dying!' isn't necessarily true. It's changed a lot since it began, but it's still very much alive, and there's still some semblance of what made EPCOT what it originally was in there somewhere, it's just not in the same forms that fuel your nostalgia when you go to Youtube to listen to the Horizon soundtrack.All we can really do at this juncture is hope Disney catches on and starts bringing EPCOT back to its former glory.
150.242.32.36May 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM I don't think Future world at EPCOT and Tomorrowland will ever return to what they once were. The problem is that that kind of happy look to the future isn't popular right now, and Disney did take a crack at it with the new movie, but I don't think that is going to work. I think that Disney doesn't spark a new popular trend, it sees something popular, and makes a version of it that is so well liked that eventually it "owns" it, and after a while everyone thinks Disney is the only reason it is popular and that they started it. For example, the whole princess thing was already in place, the consumer products person at Disney saw tons of girls in princess dresses and wondered why they aren't making branded ones this led to Disney Princess franchise/merchandise. The Pirates of the Caribbean did really well, but pirates were popular around that time (I don't know where "talk like a pirate" day came from in the 90s, but with that and the flying spaghetti monster thing, pirates were "trending" I think.) Halloween has been getting much more popular (possibly due to Martha Stewart's over the top celebrations, more people involved in cosplay in public (remember Triumph the insult comic dog making fun of people waiting in line for Star Wars) and also the unrelated trend of women wearing more revealing costumes), then Disney responds with Villain/Halloween parties and Nightmare Before Christmas ride overlay and a lot of merchandise and this stuff is very popular. There were tons of live action fairy tale movies and the people at Disney were thinking why aren't we doing this (this is something executives have actually stated in interviews) and now they are making tons of movies based on ones they animated and the movies are doing well, but they are following that trend. The new Lone Ranger movie couldn't spark a renewed interest in the whole Frontierland theme. Right now a distopian future is popular/accepted. I don't think the Tomorrowland movie is going to be successful because it goes against that, but it's only been one weekend so far.
I know Tomorrowland and Futureworld at EPCOT are shells of themselves, but I think Disney stopped putting money in because the popularity was decreasing and then that led to less interest and a vicious cycle of decline. I think you need to give them credit for trying to start the synergy wheel going for Tomorrowland, but I think that was also a test to see if they should invest in remaking Tomorrowland vs. just making it Star Wars or Marvel which will give them a large return on investment.
Michael LongoMay 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM Love this. So happy to see people's engagement in this whether they agree with me or not, great to see the energy on the subject. All I can say for anyone who says it wouldn't be as profitable, yea maybe that's true it wouldn't be as profitable as a franchise tie in at first, but remember that Disney used to take their park ideas and make them profitable by creativity and presentation, not by slapping a franchise tag on them. They are a company that has the money and the ability to get people interested in what they want to put at their parks, especially when properly executed. Clearly there's a lot of people here hoping they remember that.
Anon MouseMay 29, 2015 at 7:40 AM "Clearly there's a lot of people here hoping they remember that."
Remembering and Doing are two separate things. Tomorrwland is just a movie and it is failing.
Michael LongoMay 29, 2015 at 9:08 AM The movies failing because the film itself isn't that great, in my opinion. Not because people don't care about what it represents, as is well found in the response here. I know most of my favorite disney rides had nothing to do with previous franchises. They made them popular and in some cases, made successful movies out of the ride itself. They are a gigantic corporate machine that was based on a mans ideas once. Just because it's highly improbable doesn't mean it wouldn't be great to see some of that heart come back. This is one of many topics im going to not want to be a realist on, the park does have a ride based on imagination after all. I prefer having it excited rather than deeming it unprofitable.
168.254.225.130May 29, 2015 at 12:05 PM Re: MichaelI think that's one of the biggest problems in our modern society. A lot of people say that they want innovation, something new and creative, but despite all this complaining, it's the things that follow an established formula or trend that sell more. If originality is something that people were actually looking for, than these numbers would be reversed! If all of you really want Tomorrowland/Epcot to restore to it's "former glory" than I highly suggest you watch Tomorrowland the movie and ignore the Frozen ride as well as other things that follow trends.On a different note, the usual complaint about Disney is that they're super slow, now you're saying that they change too much? Which one is it?
98.85.102.24May 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM Universal Creative is the new WED. They are not afraid to take chances on new complex ride systems or ways of doing things like Disney with their Soarin over Pandora and Test Track Radiator Springs clones. Universal has updated just about every attraction in the park with better technology and stories. Instead of letting them rot for decades then closing them abruptly and leaving them for years like Disney with the DHS tram tour, Wonders of Life, River Country, etc. Disney needs to start innovating instead of being lazy and greedy. Disney reminds me of Mcdonalds they were huge in 90s but are just coasting on their name and size alone now with cheap promotions and nostalgia.
98.85.102.24May 29, 2015 at 12:45 PM Epcot is the most unique and imaginative park that Disney ever made that had no Disney IP when it opened because it had some of the most cutting edge technology in the world. Seeing them wedge Donald Duck and Frozen into 1980 boat ride attractions with little technological upgrades is heartless.The slow death of Epcot is directly related to the problems with Imagineering aka the premier makers of themed bathrooms, gift shops and restaurants. Rides are just an after thought to them now look at their rocking mine train coaster that does not rock and has dwarfs that shrink in size and become less animated at the end of the ride. Great attention to detail.
99.101.56.50May 30, 2015 at 12:15 AM Very well said!I'm a few years younger than you, having visited Epcot as a child for the first time in 1992 or so. But my memories of the wonder it instilled are priceless. It allowed us to explore cultures around the globe, which in a pre-internet world was fascinating, while envisioning what humanity could achieve together in the future. I still get that wondrous feeling when I go today.
George BrungotMay 30, 2015 at 5:03 AM Wow. I wish I had written that story. So true! There are a few great new shows/exhibits... Turtle Talk really impressed me. And Soarin' was relaxing and fun. But I agree that these new shows just don't present the feeling of hope. Walt Disney had some great visions, and a team that helped form those visions into something great. Is Disney living on Walt's vision? Is that vision fading into history?
70.126.135.117May 30, 2015 at 5:57 AM "Universal is the new WED...Disney reminds me of McDonalds"So totally not true. So, by Universal being "innovative," do you mean how they basically reskinned Spiderman into Transformers? Or how, when they converted Duelling Dragons to Dragon Challenge, they didn't really change anything except for the name and putting a few Harry Potter Easter eggs in the queue? Yeah, way outside-the-box thinking there, Universal.And McDonalds's reason for failing isn't because they've gotten greedy. They've been greedy for a pretty long time. It's only when a certain little film called Supersize Me! came out that people started to realize just how bad they were. Disney, meanwhile, is not failing. If it is, then why do their attendance numbers increase every year? It's like Disney makes one mistake, and their quality drops by 50%! And Disney doesn't build lots of new attractions because their parks are perfect right now. Look at Space Mountain! It just celebrated it's 40th anniversary, and it's just as good as it's always been. Now look at Universal. That park's only been around for 25 years, and the only ride left from opening day is ET, which is very outdated. When one of Disney's older attractions starts showing it's age, what do they do? "Okay, people, closin' down for a refurb! We can't let this timeless piece of theme park history go to waste!" What does Universal do? "Eh, who cares? Let's just take it out, replace it with something new and popular that probably won't age well either." Why? Because Universal doesn't care as much as Disney does. They only make rides with IPs that make them money. Do you really think they would have such a tight grip on Marvel if The Avengers was a total failure?A lot of you seem to want Disney to be absolutely perfect with no flaws. Just relax. Disney probably wasn't 100% perfect back in the day, either. But now that you're older, and not as naive, then you notice the flaws. Remember the opening years, when you had to pay for even more tickets to go on rides? Now, the only ticket you have to pay for is your admission, then you can go on all the rides you want! And you mean to tell me that they've gone down?
23.114.224.6June 1, 2015 at 11:05 AM The concept of innovation- which they push more than any other, seems to be what is missing from this park. There are plenty of things to display and return the fascination of science back to the park. Someone above mentioned that updating EPCOT with modern technology would be a waste of time, however, I tend to disagree. Disney needs to reflect the innovation and wonder behind STEM. Wanna update Mission Space? Show how spacecraft are designed and talk about the future of space travel. The Air Force is testing the new space shuttle as we speak. There is a plethora of technology to choose from that is innovative, but that's just one quick and easy example.It seems both redundant and annoying to position technology that was introduced 5 years ago as "The Future". Take the Carousel of Progress for example (I know it's not EPCOT, but I feel like it reflects one of the core issues of EPCOT), the last stop on the Carousel is to get a look at the future. Future like Augmented Reality in video games (you can get Oculus Rift on Amazon), and a smart house that changes the temp and controls appliances (you can get it at Home Depot). When I go to EPCOT, I want to see the future of technology and I want to see them teaching the importance of STEM. What I don't want to see, however, is Chevy advertisements everywhere with an entire exhibit dedicated to promoting Chevy's newest hybrid. While that may be modern technology, why not explain how and why they design these cars the way they do? What is Chevy doing to do research and improve the technology of a hydrogen powered vehicle? I think that would be more fitting of an exhibit than "Hey, here's the next car your mommy and daddy should buy, and here's why." Just my two cents.
66.87.123.101June 3, 2015 at 9:09 AM To my fellow anonymous writer above, (well, I doubt anyone's reading this anymore, but I just felt like I had to put this out there) You make a very good point. But I have one question, wouldn't that mean that attractions would have to close down every few months to make sure they're as up-to-date as possible? Cause if so, that'd probably put a dent in Disney's budget This article has been archived and is no longer accepting comments.