Re: Trademarking ERDDAP

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Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal

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Apr 18, 2024, 3:46:53 PMApr 18
to Jennifer Stewart - NOAA Federal, 'Chris John - NOAA Affiliate' via ERDDAP
Hi Jennifer:

I have talked to the ERDDAP steering committee and we want to get this done. To start, once you and/or the lawyer(s) become familiar with what we have so far and what ERDDAP is, I would like to get together with you folks and the present developer (Chris John who is copied on this) to work on the license/copyright/disclaimer issues. We also hope we can start moving ahead on the Trademark issue. If you have any question related to the Trademark, or need more information, let me know. Once we have worked out solutions between us, we can meet with the whole group for comment.

Thanks for your help.

-Roy


> On Apr 16, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <roy.men...@noaa.gov> wrote:
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> Thanks Jennifer. ERDDAP code has been in open sourced for about 12 years (and on Github for a few less years) and over 100 locations have ERDDAP installed which includes the source, I don't know that there is anything in the code that is unique, I don't know that we want anything patented. It is more first protection of the name, and second some kind of license like we have now, to protect against anyone who modifies the code without either submitting to the repo or renaming it. Below I will resend the two links I sent in my second email. We are perfectly fine with what the Navy has done, where they have modified the code and call NERDDAP.
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> I have kept Steve and Kate off of this because while we are in their building we are not in their division. Since our Center reorg last October, Heather is our division head, but she was not part of our Division when any of the development was done. The original developer, Bob Simons, has retired. Let me talk to Eugene and Heather and a few others and I will get back to you.
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> Thanks,
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> -Roy
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>> The license we presently have, though I have no idea if it is enforceable, is at:
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>> https://coastwatch.pfeg.noaa.gov/erddap/download/setup.html#license
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>> There are a number of other licenses involved, because of the use of other software libraries, What we have now is:
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>> https://coastwatch.pfeg.noaa.gov/erddap/download/setup.html#credits
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>> Among other things this lists the software used and the licenses for those software where there is one. The software is on Github and is freely available both in compiled (war file) and uncompiled (sources code). All the code is either Java or Javascript.
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>> On Apr 16, 2024, at 8:25 PM, Jennifer Stewart - NOAA Federal <jennifer....@noaa.gov> wrote:
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>> Thank you Roy for connecting today. I have reached out to our Counsel on performing what is called an "OSS Compatibility" analysis. I've also shared that NOAA desires protection from any False Association with our product, ERRDAP.
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>> Also, We could file a patent application to protect any unique algorithms if you are in the process of updating the software, modernizing the code and have not publicly disclosed that new development. Or if it has been less than a year since you went public. We cannot patent the algorithm specifically, but what we patent is the series of steps/method/process the algorithm performs.
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>> When it comes to licensing we can license the source code or executables only. Of course licensing executables gives you further protection and control over licensing the source code. Looking forward to further discussion to build a roadmap that serves your needs and NOAAs best interest.
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>> Jennifer Stewart
>> Technology Transfer Specialist
>> NOAA Technology Partnerships Office
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>> Schedule 🕒 a Meeting With Me
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>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 2:05 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <roy.men...@noaa.gov> wrote:
>> HI Jennifer:
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>> Thanks for your presentation today. We are the actual developers of ERDDAP, to start I just wanted you to have my email. I will follow-up with you as soon as I can touch base with others. We would like to make ERDDAP licensed if that is possible. We consider it open source, but want to protect from misuse of the code and/or the name.
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>> -Roy
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>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
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> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government or NOAA."
> **********************
> Roy Mendelssohn
> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
> NOAA/NMFS
> Environmental Research Division
> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
> ***Note new street address***
> 110 McAllister Way
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> Phone: (831)-420-3666
> Fax: (831) 420-3980
> e-mail: Roy.Men...@noaa.gov www: https://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
>
> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.
>

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"The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government or NOAA."
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Roy Mendelssohn
Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
NOAA/NMFS
Environmental Research Division
Southwest Fisheries Science Center
***Note new street address***
110 McAllister Way
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Phone: (831)-420-3666
Fax: (831) 420-3980
e-mail: Roy.Men...@noaa.gov www: https://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
"From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
"the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.

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