Is OBIS in its entirety part of any ERDDAP?

[Geoff Osgood]

Hello!

We are thinking about setting up an ERDDAP to integrate with biological data we (eOceans) will collect. Before we set up our own ERDDAP to access OBIS data, we were curious if such an ERDDAP already existed. We have searched across multiple ERDDAPs and discovered that at least some of the data sets on OBIS do exist on a few ERDDAPs, but it looks like not every data set is yet up on an ERDDAP nor filtered through a single, common ERDDAP. 

Does anyone have any insight into how much of OBIS exists on current ERDDAPs and if any ERDDAP accesses all (or a large portion) of OBIS?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Sincerely, 

Geoff Osgood, quantitative ecologist at eOceans

[Tylar Murray]

> how much of OBIS exists on current ERDDAPs 

A small percentage. OBIS requires using the Darwin Core format and those tables can then be hosted by ERDDAP just like any data table.

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Unless you plan to host a lot of data you can probably get someone to add your tables to their existing ERDDAP.

Please check out the [IOOS marine bio data docs]( https://github.com/ioos/bibo_data_guide ). Members (including me) will be happy to help you with this. We meet ***TODAY*** at 16:00 eastern. There should be more details in the README I linked but here is the link for the meeting just to be sure: https://zoom.us/j/4614271978?pwd=dTduaVY0RnlPNThjajQydENZZUg1Zz09

[Frederic Leclercq]

Hi Taylar,

Could you please indicate which timezone that is exactly? (ET/EET/EST)

Thanks!
Frederic Leclercq

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[Mathew Biddle - NOAA Affiliate]

IOOS is encouraging the Marine Biodiversity Observation Network projects to use ERDDAP to serve Darwin Core formatted data for OBIS. However, OBIS does not have an ERDDAP available at this time. So, you might be seeing data that eventually makes it way into OBIS in those responses.

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[Mathew Biddle - NOAA Affiliate]

Also note that Tylar's link should have been: https://github.com/ioos/bio_data_guide

[Tylar Murray]

> Also note that Tylar's link should have been: https://github.com/ioos/bio_data_guide

Thank you Matt. I don't know how that extra "b" got in there.

> Could you please indicate which timezone that is exactly? (ET/EET/EST)

Let's call it 20:00 UTC because EDT/EST/ET confuses me and my systems.  ;)

[Geoff Osgood]

Thank you all for the replies! They have been helpful. I'll follow the development of the data guide for sure.

I want to clarify, we are not looking for someone to host our data, but just wanted an easy way to access OBIS through an ERDDAP. Has the Marine Biodiversity Observation Network set-up their ERDDAP yet? That is wonderful news that they are doing that and formatting to Darwin Core. 

So I would be correct in assuming it would not be wasted effort to set up an ERDDAP to serve OBIS data in general? We are specifically focused on "historical" data, ie data already up on OBIS.

[Tylar Murray]

> I want to clarify, we are not looking for someone to host our data, but just wanted an easy way to access OBIS through an ERDDAP

That is an interesting idea. Can you tell more what you are trying to accomplish? Have you tried using the OBIS API or their other software tools? [ref]( https://obis.org/development/ ).

[Mathew Biddle - NOAA Affiliate]

Let's continue this outside the list. 

Thanks,

Matt

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[Bob Simons]

I had previously talked with Geoff/eOceans about their goals. 

One advantage of eOceans setting up their own ERDDAP is that they could serve a variety of datasets related to their organization, e.g., OBIS data (if we can make that available via ERDDAP), other biological and physical oceanography datasets from other ERDDAPs, and their own datasets.  By using ERDDAP, all of the datasets would be available in one place, with eOceans branding, and with a consistent method to search for and query datasets. 

Long ago, I made an EDDTableFromOBIS dataset type which could get data from the previous generation of OBIS data services. I suspect it is time to make a new EDDTableFromOBIS2 dataset type for the new OBIS data services.

[Geoff Osgood]

Thanks Bob! That is exactly what we are trying to achieve. Eventually we will want to access data from other ERDDAPs and it seems simpler on our end to maintain API's for ERDDAPs alone rather than both ERDDAPs and OBIS, hence why we wanted OBIS on an ERDDAP. Our main motivation was getting OBIS on an ERDDAP to make retrieving/serving data for our purposes easier down the line, especially if OBIS isn't consistently on any current ERDDAPs.

Unless I'm wrong in thinking that serving all of OBIS from an ERDDAP will make things easier (rather than using OBIS API's separately), I think we have our answer from all this discussion! Thanks everyone.

[Bob Simons]

Just so you know, I'm working on getting the OBIS "Periodic Export" data into ERDDAP. I'm working with people from OBIS.