[erdas-l] RGB to greyscale in Erdas?

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Natalie Parker

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Jun 29, 2008, 7:52:23 AM6/29/08
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Hello,

Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software package e.g. corel to covert them there.

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Natalie
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Hello

If I undstand you well, you can do this by importing your image to Erdas, through Import from main menu, after import you can select grayscale from display option in raster option ~in the viewer file menu.

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Subject: [erdas-l] RGB to greyscale in Erdas?
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Hello,

Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale
using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software
package e.g. corel to covert them there.

Thanks
Natalie
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Fairuz Mohamad

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if im not mistaken there is because of this RGB is 16 bit.so that file cant open using corel or adobe photoshop. you must rescale to 8bit first.
 
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Hello

If I undstand you well, you can do this by importing your image to Erdas, through Import from main menu, after import you can select grayscale from display option in raster option ~in the viewer file menu.

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Hello,

Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale
using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software
package e.g. corel to covert them there.

Thanks
Natalie
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Hütter Rudolf

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Natalie,

use Import/Export --> Export (TIFF). Select both input and output files and proceede with OK. Select "Export band selection" --> Grayscale (and all other parameters You intend to have) --> OK.

This should work!

Good luck,

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Hello,

Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software package e.g. corel to covert them there.

Thanks
Natalie
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Adrian Benitez

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Jun 30, 2008, 8:57:11 AM6/30/08
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Yes Natalie.
You can use IMAGE INTERPRETER/SPECTRAL ENHANCEMENT/RGB to IHS.
Then extract the first band (IMAGE INTERPRETER/UTILITIES/SUBSET) from the IHS image.
If you prefer, you can rescale the last product to 8 bits using IMAGE INTERPRETER/UTILITIES/RESCALE

To get more SD, you can use PRINCIPAL COMPONENTS, instead of RGB to IHS. But you will loose some standart model reference.


Adrian E. Benítez
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Argentina

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Hello,

Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software package e.g. corel to covert them there.

Thanks
Natalie
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Stefana Popova

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Listers,
Please note that export to grayscale is the same as viewer greyscale - you have information from a single band!

RGB to Greyscale is rather a transformation of a combination of 3 channels to grayscale palette.
Thus, Adrian gives the right suggestions.

Photoshop's method can be applied with spatial modeler.
PS uses 59% for the green, 30% of the red and 11% for the blue channels for conversion factors
or
<grayscale>=0.59*G+0.3*R+0.11*R

Other technique is the saturation removal - to compute the desaturated image you actually compute the lightness component (intensity) - I guess more or less like the IHS method.
L=[max(R,G,B)+min(R,G,B)]/2
however this result has poor contrast


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Natalie Parker

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Thank you very much for all your help everyone!
Natalie
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Listers,
Please note that export to grayscale is the same as viewer greyscale - you have information from a single band!

RGB to Greyscale is rather a transformation of a combination of 3 channels to grayscale palette.
Thus, Adrian gives the right suggestions.

Photoshop's method can be applied with spatial modeler.
PS uses 59% for the green, 30% of the red and 11% for the blue channels for conversion factors
or
<grayscale>=0.59*G+0.3*R+0.11*R

Other technique is the saturation removal - to compute the desaturated image you actually compute the lightness component (intensity) - I guess more or less like the IHS method.
L=[max(R,G,B)+min(R,G,B)]/2
however this result has poor contrast


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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Benitez <aben...@aeroterra.com<mailto:aben...@aeroterra.com>> wrote:
Yes Natalie.
You can use IMAGE INTERPRETER/SPECTRAL ENHANCEMENT/RGB to IHS.
Then extract the first band (IMAGE INTERPRETER/UTILITIES/SUBSET) from the IHS image.
If you prefer, you can rescale the last product to 8 bits using IMAGE INTERPRETER/UTILITIES/RESCALE

To get more SD, you can use PRINCIPAL COMPONENTS, instead of RGB to IHS. But you will loose some standart model reference.


Adrian E. Benítez
Responsable Geographic Imaging, Aeroterra S.A.
Argentina

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Does anyone know if it is posible to convert RGB images (.tif) into greyscale using erdas? For some reason I can't open the images in any other software package e.g. corel to covert them there.

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