Sib. 6.1: Photoscore Ultimate and Ghostscript Problem
Posted by normanm4 - 02 Feb 04:19PM Hide picture So I bought photoscore ultimate because of the raves on the box about how easy and wonderful it is, and also because you could use it with pdf's. Well, I have gotten the message "you must have ghostscript installed"-it is installed on my machine- and then i receive a message to go to your website, specifically: www.neuratron.com/gs in order to be enlightened as to my problem. Alas, the page doesn't exist.
I am in need of being able to use this specifically with pdf's. Please help me. So far my results are 0.
Photoscore will NOT open pdf's on my machine.
Other frustrations are the LACK of clear directions on where to get support. Neuratron said "you must get support from Sibelius". I am unable to find a Photoscore support area here at Sibelius....So any directions to the right place would be greatly appreciated as well. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.1: Photoscore Ultimate and Ghostscript Problem
Posted by Robin Walker - 02 Feb 04:39PM Hide picture This forum is fine for PhotoScore queries.
Did you install PhotoScore Ultimate from CD/DVD, or from a download? The CD/DVD has an option to install GhostScript. I suspect that the download does not.
You say that you have GhostScript installed on your PC, but:
1. is it installed in the normal default place for GhostScript, or was it a custom installation for another application? PhotoScore will only discover GhostScript if it is in the "normal" place.
2. is it a very old version of GhostScript?
What version of Windows is installed? 32-bit? 64-bit?
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Posted by normanm4 - 02 Feb 05:08PM Hide picture I installed from the Neuratron disc. It only has the "Photoscore Ultimate 6.mpkg" to execute. I am on a macbook pro, new one. The ghostrscript version is 8.7. Not sure about the "normal place" question. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.1: Photoscore Ultimate and Ghostscript Problem
Posted by Laurence Payne - 02 Feb 06:09PM Hide picture >Well, I have gotten the message "you must have ghostscript installed"-it is installed on my machine- and then i receive a message to go to your website, specifically: www.neuratron.com/gs in order to be enlightened as to my problem. Alas, the page doesn't exist.
I just clicked on your link and got straight to a page offering ghostscript for both PC and Mac. Maybe a temporary glitch in your Internet? Try again?
PhotoScore Ultimate ranges from "almost perfect" on material that originated in Sibelius or Finale to "more trouble than it's worth" on some other printed music. Before the current version, I felt rather cheated. Now I'm happier, and class it as a useful tool in some situations.
This is a good place to get help and advice. Note that you're dealing largely with helpful fellow-users, so don't complain, just ask! Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.1: Photoscore Ultimate and Ghostscript Problem
Posted by normanm4 - 02 Feb 07:34PM Hide picture Thank you Laurence. Sorry if you sensed my frustration but it appeared I had just paid $300 for something with no support- I was definitely annoyed neuratron who doesn't support their own product-somewhat of a wild goose chase.
The page I referenced above is indeed working now and solves the problem. Any other ghostscript installation package does NOT work. I tried many while trying to figure out the problem.
Thanks for the help. Back to top Allthreads Re: Sib. 6.1: Photoscore Ultimate and Ghostscript Problem
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 03 Feb 09:55AM Hide picture PhotoScore does require a very specific version of Ghostscript in order to work. Sorry that you've had problems, and I'm glad you're up and running now.
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Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by wfeg - 28 Feb 05:51AM Hide picture I am trying to read in a composition for horn and piano in a hand written script. This gives a ridiculous number of errors which I can slowly correct.
But one error that I do not know how to correct is that in parts of the score, the horn lines do not appear at all even though they are written. Only the piano staff lines appear at these points of the score.
One way I thought of overcoming this was the following:
1) Send the PhotosScore Ultimate score to Sibelius.
2) At the respective points in the score where the horn bars are not appearing (say for 4 bars), add the same number of bars to the score (4), copy over the piano part to the 4 new piano bars, and then delete the 4 piano bars where there are no horn bars.
3) Manually add the horn bars that are missing to the new horn bars that were inserted.
Is this the way it should be tackled, or is there a better way?
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Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Feb 07:21AM Hide picture The most important thing to remember is that all structural errors - unidentified staves, missed clefs, extra clefs and KS and instrument naming should be done in PhotoScore BEFORE sending to Sibelius. Check the identified staves on a page by page basis to make sure they are correctly labelled. Trust me on this. I use PS on an almost daily basis and you are going to waste hours trying to sort it out in Sibelius.
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Posted by wfeg - 28 Feb 08:29AM Hide picture > The most important thing to remember is that all structural errors - unidentified staves, missed clefs, extra clefs and KS and instrument naming should be done in PhotoScore BEFORE sending to Sibelius. Check the identified staves on a page by page basis to make sure they are correctly labelled. Trust me on this. I use PS on an almost daily basis and you are going to waste hours trying to sort it out in Sibelius.
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Mike Lyons
The problem with your suggestion is that I could not find any way of correcting my problem in PhotoScore Ultimate.
How do you add the missing horn bars above the piano bars?
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wfeg Back to top Allthreads Re: Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by Robin Walker - 28 Feb 10:05AM Hide picture You have mistakenly allowed PhotoScore to go on to "read" pages, before checking whether PhotoScore has recognised all the staves correctly.
You need to abandon what you have done so far, and start again. This time, before scanning in the score, open PhotoScore Preferences, click tab "Scanning" and UNCHECK the box "Read pages after scanning/opening". Then you will have an entire new phase of work to do before PhotoScore attempts to interpret the music: locating all the staves on each page correctly, and tying them together into correct systems.
Be sure to read the PhotoScore User Guide fully on this process.
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Posted by Laurence Payne - 28 Feb 10:52AM Hide picture Are you sure PhotoScore is the right tool for this job? Back to top Allthreads Re: Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by sperger - 28 Feb 05:54PM Hide picture I had this same thing using the free version of photoscore. When I had corrected what I could I sent it to Sibelius expecting to have to do what you suggested in your original post but when I opened it in landscape mode the piano part was intact with a system of empty bars above in the solo so I just filled them in as I would normally.
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Posted by Mike Lyons - 28 Feb 09:02PM Hide picture Photoscore will read correctly all the notes and most symbols on staves that it has recognised. Poor quality scans will produce poor quality results (GIGO).
Best workflow for me:
Scan the pages in
Do as Robin says and don't let it read pages automatically
Go through each scanned page checking for missed staves, wrong clefs, accidentals, wrong keysigns, missing barlines and use the error navigator to find incorrectly filled bars and then correct them.
When you are sure you have checked thoroughly, only then send to Sibelius. Make sure to save the scan as an opt file, in case you missed anything and Sib crashes when reading it.
Also, don't scan more than a dozen or so pages in one go. Keep separate files and import each one into sibelius separate;y, then use Append to mash them back together. It's not essential, but it will save you losing too much work in one go if it crashes.
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Posted by wfeg - 28 Feb 10:00PM Hide picture > Photoscore will read correctly all the notes and most symbols on staves that it has recognised. Poor quality scans will produce poor quality results (GIGO).
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> Best workflow for me:
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> Scan the pages in
> Do as Robin says and don't let it read pages automatically
> Go through each scanned page checking for missed staves, wrong clefs, accidentals, wrong keysigns, missing barlines and use the error navigator to find incorrectly filled bars and then correct them.
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> When you are sure you have checked thoroughly, only then send to Sibelius. Make sure to save the scan as an opt file, in case you missed anything and Sib crashes when reading it.
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> Also, don't scan more than a dozen or so pages in one go. Keep separate files and import each one into sibelius separate;y, then use Append to mash them back together. It's not essential, but it will save you losing too much work in one go if it crashes.
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> Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.
Mike Lyons
Thanks for your very good workflow advice. This is what I need to understand how to better use PhotoScore Ultimate. Much appreciated. I will follow yours and Robin's advice.
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wfeg Back to top Allthreads Re: Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by wfeg - 28 Feb 09:55PM Hide picture > You have mistakenly allowed PhotoScore to go on to "read" pages, before checking whether PhotoScore has recognised all the staves correctly.
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> You need to abandon what you have done so far, and start again. This time, before scanning in the score, open PhotoScore Preferences, click tab "Scanning" and UNCHECK the box "Read pages after scanning/opening". Then you will have an entire new phase of work to do before PhotoScore attempts to interpret the music: locating all the staves on each page correctly, and tying them together into correct systems.
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> Be sure to read the PhotoScore User Guide fully on this process.
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Robin Walker
Thanks very much for your in-depth reply, which I will follow. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
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wfeg Back to top Allthreads Re: Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by Laurence Payne - 28 Feb 10:08PM Hide picture But don't persist with PhotoScore beyond the point where manual note entry straight to Sibelius would have been quicker. I suispect you've passed that point already. Back to top Allthreads Re: Neuratron Photoscore Ultimate does not read a clef
Posted by Mike Lyons - 01 Mar 06:57AM Hide picture ...and there re some things it is very poor at - lyrics, for instance - which it is not worth using for. Better to type those in by hand.
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