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nominal9
Dec 22, 2007, 2:28:57 PM12/22/07
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7156364.stm
New Orleans is in planning to demolish low-income housing in the
aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Many poor and, yes, mostly African
American New Orleans residents have protested against it. Their main
concern is they doubt the sincerity of pertinent government agencies
and officials that the demolition of the present low- income housing
is only to make way for replacement low- income housing... of a better
and less concentrated sort.
My own "common sense" suggestion to resolve this impasse would be....
build the replacement housing first, after the equivalent amounts of
replacement units have been completed, well you can always demolish
the old housing developments, later. In short... let's "front-load"
the process and put the government agencies and officials to the
test.... Let them Put Up or Shut Up, I say.
But what really irks me about this is the apparent absence of any
African- American Leadership on this matter.....Where are what I call
the "Double O, or O repeat O... (O-re-O, for short)... Oprah and
Obama" Leadership Coalition on this issue? Sure, they have time to
hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of fans
and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
survivors...... Dare I say it? I guess the "poor blacks" just don't
count or figure for all much in the O-re-O Coalition's Presidential
Candidacy Plans.... Heck.... my guess is they think these "poor
blacks" are more of a millstone and a drag on their aspirations than
anything else.
But hey.... let's not forget the rest of the African American
Leadership here.... They all seem to have abandoned the Katrina
survivors, and they've done it just now, at the Christmas
season.....Now isn't that just so "kind-hearted" of them.... all...
nominal9
New Orleans is in planning to demolish low-income housing in the
aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Many poor and, yes, mostly African
American New Orleans residents have protested against it. Their main
concern is they doubt the sincerity of pertinent government agencies
and officials that the demolition of the present low- income housing
is only to make way for replacement low- income housing... of a better
and less concentrated sort.
My own "common sense" suggestion to resolve this impasse would be....
build the replacement housing first, after the equivalent amounts of
replacement units have been completed, well you can always demolish
the old housing developments, later. In short... let's "front-load"
the process and put the government agencies and officials to the
test.... Let them Put Up or Shut Up, I say.
But what really irks me about this is the apparent absence of any
African- American Leadership on this matter.....Where are what I call
the "Double O, or O repeat O... (O-re-O, for short)... Oprah and
Obama" Leadership Coalition on this issue? Sure, they have time to
hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of fans
and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
survivors...... Dare I say it? I guess the "poor blacks" just don't
count or figure for all much in the O-re-O Coalition's Presidential
Candidacy Plans.... Heck.... my guess is they think these "poor
blacks" are more of a millstone and a drag on their aspirations than
anything else.
But hey.... let's not forget the rest of the African American
Leadership here.... They all seem to have abandoned the Katrina
survivors, and they've done it just now, at the Christmas
season.....Now isn't that just so "kind-hearted" of them.... all...
nominal9
nominal9
Dec 23, 2007, 3:33:45 PM12/23/07
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What.... no comments????
"Sure, they have time to
hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of
fans
and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
survivors......"
No one even wrote to say that I didn't know that the rallies (and
primary) were in South Carolina... not North Carolina, as I wrote????
I thought, for sure, someone would be "picayune" enough to try to
discredit me on that score, at least....( Point is, sometimes I even
make mistakes "on purpose".... just to sucker 'em in )... but I got no
takers....
For those Europeans or others out there who did not get the insult/
pun.... It all hinges on the following "lines" from my original
posting.
"Where are what I call
the "Double O, or O repeat O... (O-re-O, for short)... Oprah and
Obama" Leadership Coalition on this issue?"
Oprah, is Oprah Winfrey... an African-American U.S. television talk
show personality... very popular among women, in general, but also
white women, in particular. And Obama, is Barack H. Obama... an
African-American U.S. Senator and current Primary Aspirant for the
Democratic Party Presidential Candidacy. Oprah Winfrey has endorsed
and has "stumped" (publically advocated) for the election in separate
State primaries of Barack Obama to the Democratic Party Presidential
Candidacy position. So,.... what is an O-re-O?... Well, literally, an
O-re-O is a cookie.... made by the Nabisco (?) company... which
consists of two black cookie wafers sandwiching a white, vanilla
flavored frosting in between. Now, figuratively, an "O-re-O" cookie is
also a metaphor for a Black or African-American person who may be....
here's the simile... Black on the outside, but White on the inside.
This is a "class" charge that is directed against some African
Americans.... Basically, it alleges that "O-re-O's" have forsaken
their fellow Black or African American brethren, along with their
history of racial oppression, in the self-interest of their own (O-re-
O) individual social advancement and betterment (which is usually
attained by "emulating" the "oppressive" ways and prejudices of the
"White" Class. So, when I say that Oprah and Obama form an "O-re-O"
Leadership Coalition..... well, I guess you can now see that this is
not a very complimentary assertion... in some quarters....
nominal9
"Sure, they have time to
hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of
fans
and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
survivors......"
primary) were in South Carolina... not North Carolina, as I wrote????
I thought, for sure, someone would be "picayune" enough to try to
discredit me on that score, at least....( Point is, sometimes I even
make mistakes "on purpose".... just to sucker 'em in )... but I got no
takers....
For those Europeans or others out there who did not get the insult/
pun.... It all hinges on the following "lines" from my original
posting.
"Where are what I call
the "Double O, or O repeat O... (O-re-O, for short)... Oprah and
Obama" Leadership Coalition on this issue?"
show personality... very popular among women, in general, but also
white women, in particular. And Obama, is Barack H. Obama... an
African-American U.S. Senator and current Primary Aspirant for the
Democratic Party Presidential Candidacy. Oprah Winfrey has endorsed
and has "stumped" (publically advocated) for the election in separate
State primaries of Barack Obama to the Democratic Party Presidential
Candidacy position. So,.... what is an O-re-O?... Well, literally, an
O-re-O is a cookie.... made by the Nabisco (?) company... which
consists of two black cookie wafers sandwiching a white, vanilla
flavored frosting in between. Now, figuratively, an "O-re-O" cookie is
also a metaphor for a Black or African-American person who may be....
here's the simile... Black on the outside, but White on the inside.
This is a "class" charge that is directed against some African
Americans.... Basically, it alleges that "O-re-O's" have forsaken
their fellow Black or African American brethren, along with their
history of racial oppression, in the self-interest of their own (O-re-
O) individual social advancement and betterment (which is usually
attained by "emulating" the "oppressive" ways and prejudices of the
"White" Class. So, when I say that Oprah and Obama form an "O-re-O"
Leadership Coalition..... well, I guess you can now see that this is
not a very complimentary assertion... in some quarters....
nominal9
archytas
Dec 25, 2007, 2:30:57 AM12/25/07
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In Ghana they are knocking and burning people out of their homes
because of the stupid soccer cup going on there. What utter wankers.
Neil
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because of the stupid soccer cup going on there. What utter wankers.
Neil
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nominal9
Jan 4, 2008, 2:35:38 PM1/4/08
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/barackobama/story/0,,2235600,00.html
Obama won the Democratic Party "Iowa Caucuses"....
My opinions, in the preceding posts above, still hold.
In all transparency, I would and do prefer John Edwards.
Give it time..... maybe the Democrats will come arouund.
nominal9
Obama won the Democratic Party "Iowa Caucuses"....
My opinions, in the preceding posts above, still hold.
In all transparency, I would and do prefer John Edwards.
Give it time..... maybe the Democrats will come arouund.
nominal9
nominal9
Jan 22, 2008, 2:00:52 PM1/22/08
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Well, The Democrats had a televised debate last night (Martin
Luther King. Jr. Day), before the South Carolina Democratic Party
Primary..... and the fireworks flew. I have my reservations about
Candidate Obama.... but I do harbor some sympathy for the fellow
considering the "trashing" that Obama has been getting from former
U.S. President "Bill" Clinton... husband of another current
Democratic Party Candidate, Hillary Clinton.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2244653,00.html
My own opinion is that Obama has been much too... civil... in his
handling of the Clintons.....especially of Bill "the Judas Goat"
Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
presidency.... Obama's "line" to Hillary should have been....
"Hillary, if you can't reign in Bill's big mouth .... maybe you (we)
should arrange for a Pizza Delivery followed by a cigar or something,
to keep him fat, happy and satisfied..... maybe that'll keep him
quiet."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23063416-28737,00.html
My own preferred Democratic Presidential Candidate.... John
Edwards.... has all but given up the ghost as a possible Democratic
Convention Winner. You see, that's the reason why I (as an
Independent) get fed up by the Democrats.....they are"Dictatorially
Controlled" by their "Party Bosses" and they just don't have the sense
to shake them out or do anything right..... Edwards is, by far, the
best representative of "Democratic Party" platform policies and he is
the most "electable" as a Candidate in a General Election against any
Republican adversary......
But the Democrats always play their "party machine or patronage
calculations" and wind up either losing elections outright or picking
candidates who sell out their own voter base...like "Judas Goat" Bill
did with Trade Treaties, Welfare Reform and other policies....Or like
that other Democratic Party Boss favorite.... former Democrat and
still Senator.... traitorous Lyin' Joe Lieberman did.... The last time
the Clintons were in the White House.... the petty corruption was
outrageous.... some said that the Clintons may even have taken the
silverware when they left..... I guess Hillary wants to go back for
the towels.....
nominal9
On Jan 4, 2:35 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/barackobama/story/0,,2235600,...
> >Oprah, isOprahWinfrey... an African-American U.S. television talk
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Luther King. Jr. Day), before the South Carolina Democratic Party
Primary..... and the fireworks flew. I have my reservations about
Candidate Obama.... but I do harbor some sympathy for the fellow
considering the "trashing" that Obama has been getting from former
U.S. President "Bill" Clinton... husband of another current
Democratic Party Candidate, Hillary Clinton.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2244653,00.html
My own opinion is that Obama has been much too... civil... in his
handling of the Clintons.....especially of Bill "the Judas Goat"
Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
presidency.... Obama's "line" to Hillary should have been....
"Hillary, if you can't reign in Bill's big mouth .... maybe you (we)
should arrange for a Pizza Delivery followed by a cigar or something,
to keep him fat, happy and satisfied..... maybe that'll keep him
quiet."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23063416-28737,00.html
My own preferred Democratic Presidential Candidate.... John
Edwards.... has all but given up the ghost as a possible Democratic
Convention Winner. You see, that's the reason why I (as an
Independent) get fed up by the Democrats.....they are"Dictatorially
Controlled" by their "Party Bosses" and they just don't have the sense
to shake them out or do anything right..... Edwards is, by far, the
best representative of "Democratic Party" platform policies and he is
the most "electable" as a Candidate in a General Election against any
Republican adversary......
But the Democrats always play their "party machine or patronage
calculations" and wind up either losing elections outright or picking
candidates who sell out their own voter base...like "Judas Goat" Bill
did with Trade Treaties, Welfare Reform and other policies....Or like
that other Democratic Party Boss favorite.... former Democrat and
still Senator.... traitorous Lyin' Joe Lieberman did.... The last time
the Clintons were in the White House.... the petty corruption was
outrageous.... some said that the Clintons may even have taken the
silverware when they left..... I guess Hillary wants to go back for
the towels.....
nominal9
On Jan 4, 2:35 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/barackobama/story/0,,2235600,...
> > show personality... very popular among women, in general, but also
> > white women, in particular. And Obama, is Barack H. Obama... an
> > African-American U.S. Senator and current Primary Aspirant for the
> > Democratic Party Presidential Candidacy.OprahWinfrey has endorsed
> > white women, in particular. And Obama, is Barack H. Obama... an
> > African-American U.S. Senator and current Primary Aspirant for the
> > and has "stumped" (publically advocated) for the election in separate
> > State primaries of Barack Obama to the Democratic Party Presidential
> > Candidacy position. So,.... what is an O-re-O?... Well, literally, an
> > O-re-O is a cookie.... made by the Nabisco (?) company... which
> > consists of two black cookie wafers sandwiching a white, vanilla
> > flavored frosting in between. Now, figuratively, an "O-re-O" cookie is
> > also a metaphor for a Black or African-American person who may be....
> > here's the simile... Black on the outside, but White on the inside.
> > This is a "class" charge that is directed against some African
> > Americans.... Basically, it alleges that "O-re-O's" have forsaken
> > their fellow Black or African American brethren, along with their
> > history of racial oppression, in the self-interest of their own (O-re-
> > O) individual social advancement and betterment (which is usually
> > attained by "emulating" the "oppressive" ways and prejudices of the
> > "White" Class. So, when I say thatOprahand Obama form an "O-re-O"
> > State primaries of Barack Obama to the Democratic Party Presidential
> > Candidacy position. So,.... what is an O-re-O?... Well, literally, an
> > O-re-O is a cookie.... made by the Nabisco (?) company... which
> > consists of two black cookie wafers sandwiching a white, vanilla
> > flavored frosting in between. Now, figuratively, an "O-re-O" cookie is
> > also a metaphor for a Black or African-American person who may be....
> > here's the simile... Black on the outside, but White on the inside.
> > This is a "class" charge that is directed against some African
> > Americans.... Basically, it alleges that "O-re-O's" have forsaken
> > their fellow Black or African American brethren, along with their
> > history of racial oppression, in the self-interest of their own (O-re-
> > O) individual social advancement and betterment (which is usually
> > attained by "emulating" the "oppressive" ways and prejudices of the
nominal9
Jan 28, 2008, 12:13:38 PM1/28/08
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Well....
the Oprah and Obama Leadership Coalition won a big one in South
Carolina.... now comes the big push for Super Tuesday, February 5,
2008, when a number of rather large U.S. States will all be holding
Primaries or caucuses.....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120148052255320955.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Hillary is still favored by many if not most pollsters to win the most
States or delegates in the upcoming contests....
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/24/me-florida-democrats-seek-lifting-of-ban/?news-metro
Unfortunately, the four Democratic Primary States that were "banned
out" of the contest by the DNC... Democratic National Committe....
were lokely good "gets" for Candidate Obame.... especially hie
neighboring State of Michigan and the Southern State of Florida....
both of which were probable wins for him. I really don't know for
certain whether the DNC was knowingly complicit in giving the
"effective" advantage in delegate count to the Clinton team.... or if
they were simply..... outflanked by the Clinton political
apparatchiks..... I doubt that there is any actual love lost between
DNC Chairman Howard Dean and the Clintons..... but then, maybe Howard
dean is not all that "pragmatic" (i.e., shrewd) as a politician.... I
think that it goes without saying that the rest of the Democratic
Party Leadership Establishment.... Reed- Shumer- Feinstein / Pelosi-
Hoyer.... all are "Old Guard" sorts and good footsoldiers for the
Clintons....
Too bad really, from my standpoint....
As I see it.... if McCain and Clinton respectively win their Parties'
Primaries..... the deck will effectively be stacked with Zionist
Racist Neocon Candidates on both sides for the next U.S.
President.....
nominal9
On Jan 22, 2:00 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, The Democrats had a televised debate last night (Martin
> Luther King. Jr. Day), before the South Carolina Democratic Party
> Primary..... and the fireworks flew. I have my reservations about
> Candidate Obama.... but I do harbor some sympathy for the fellow
> considering the "trashing" that Obama has been getting from former
> U.S. President "Bill" Clinton... husband of another current
> Democratic Party Candidate, Hillary Clinton.http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2244653,00.html
the Oprah and Obama Leadership Coalition won a big one in South
Carolina.... now comes the big push for Super Tuesday, February 5,
2008, when a number of rather large U.S. States will all be holding
Primaries or caucuses.....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120148052255320955.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Hillary is still favored by many if not most pollsters to win the most
States or delegates in the upcoming contests....
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/24/me-florida-democrats-seek-lifting-of-ban/?news-metro
Unfortunately, the four Democratic Primary States that were "banned
out" of the contest by the DNC... Democratic National Committe....
were lokely good "gets" for Candidate Obame.... especially hie
neighboring State of Michigan and the Southern State of Florida....
both of which were probable wins for him. I really don't know for
certain whether the DNC was knowingly complicit in giving the
"effective" advantage in delegate count to the Clinton team.... or if
they were simply..... outflanked by the Clinton political
apparatchiks..... I doubt that there is any actual love lost between
DNC Chairman Howard Dean and the Clintons..... but then, maybe Howard
dean is not all that "pragmatic" (i.e., shrewd) as a politician.... I
think that it goes without saying that the rest of the Democratic
Party Leadership Establishment.... Reed- Shumer- Feinstein / Pelosi-
Hoyer.... all are "Old Guard" sorts and good footsoldiers for the
Clintons....
Too bad really, from my standpoint....
As I see it.... if McCain and Clinton respectively win their Parties'
Primaries..... the deck will effectively be stacked with Zionist
Racist Neocon Candidates on both sides for the next U.S.
President.....
nominal9
On Jan 22, 2:00 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, The Democrats had a televised debate last night (Martin
> Luther King. Jr. Day), before the South Carolina Democratic Party
> Primary..... and the fireworks flew. I have my reservations about
> Candidate Obama.... but I do harbor some sympathy for the fellow
> considering the "trashing" that Obama has been getting from former
> U.S. President "Bill" Clinton... husband of another current
> My own opinion is that Obama has been much too... civil... in his
> handling of the Clintons.....especially of Bill "the Judas Goat"
> Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
> presidency.... Obama's "line" to Hillary should have been....
> "Hillary, if you can't reign in Bill's big mouth .... maybe you (we)
> should arrange for a Pizza Delivery followed by a cigar or something,
> to keep him fat, happy and satisfied..... maybe that'll keep him
> quiet."http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23063416-28737,00....
> handling of the Clintons.....especially of Bill "the Judas Goat"
> Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
> presidency.... Obama's "line" to Hillary should have been....
> "Hillary, if you can't reign in Bill's big mouth .... maybe you (we)
> should arrange for a Pizza Delivery followed by a cigar or something,
> to keep him fat, happy and satisfied..... maybe that'll keep him
archytas
Jan 28, 2008, 6:24:22 PM1/28/08
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We could do without politics in this form and leadership in this crazy
sense. We have the technology to render it all redundant. None of
them even start to make me think they could do a good job.
Neil
On Jan 28, 5:13 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well....
> the Oprah and Obama Leadership Coalition won a big one in South
> Carolina.... now comes the big push for Super Tuesday, February 5,
> 2008, when a number of rather large U.S. States will all be holding
> Primaries or caucuses.....http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120148052255320955.html?mod=googlenew...
sense. We have the technology to render it all redundant. None of
them even start to make me think they could do a good job.
Neil
On Jan 28, 5:13 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well....
> the Oprah and Obama Leadership Coalition won a big one in South
> Carolina.... now comes the big push for Super Tuesday, February 5,
> 2008, when a number of rather large U.S. States will all be holding
> Hillary is still favored by many if not most pollsters to win the most
> States or delegates in the upcoming contests....http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/24/me-florida-democrats-seek-lif...
nominal9
Jan 29, 2008, 12:16:02 PM1/29/08
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We have the technology to render it all redundant. /Archytas
How's that.... what technology and render what redundant? Elections,
Parties, Government? Can yuo give me more detail, when you get the
chance? Is there a new "management technique" out thaer that does away
with any or all of this, POLITICAL STUFF?
nominal9
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>
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How's that.... what technology and render what redundant? Elections,
Parties, Government? Can yuo give me more detail, when you get the
chance? Is there a new "management technique" out thaer that does away
with any or all of this, POLITICAL STUFF?
nominal9
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archytas
Jan 29, 2008, 12:58:01 PM1/29/08
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Sadly there have been no new management techniques since the Royal
Navy decided to flog less often and feed its crews decently. Even
this technique is in short supply.
Neil
Navy decided to flog less often and feed its crews decently. Even
this technique is in short supply.
Neil
nominal9
Jan 30, 2008, 1:15:23 PM1/30/08
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/us/politics/30cnd-edwards.html?ref=politics
My preferred Candidate, John Edwards, just announced his resignation
from the race for the position of U.S. Presidential Nominee for the
Democratic Party.
Sorry to see him go. I did not know all that much about him on an
individual or on a one on one level... but he struck me as the best in
the bunch for his stands on all issues and for his overall decency.
Well, now that I do not have any horse in the race, at all, I suppose
that I can just..... Let Loose with both barrels against all of the
rest as to issues....(which fits in with my favored and mostly
accurate attitude.... "Damn 'em all, what makes any one of these
J'mokes think that they know anything better or more than I do...?").
Correction..."Unfortunately, the four Democratic Primary States that
were "banned
out" of the contest by the DNC".... I wrote that a few posts back, I
should have said "two" in reference to Florida and Michigan alone....
I compress or change my train of thought for composition and I'm lazy
at proof reading.
Super Tuesday.... February 5, 2008.... coming up for the U.S.
Presidential Primaries.... lots of States in play... all between the
"Oreo-Coalition Obama" and the "Hilarious Hillary Clinton".... The
polls say that Hillary has the edge....but it may not be enough to win
the required Primary "majority" delegate numbers....
nominal9
My preferred Candidate, John Edwards, just announced his resignation
from the race for the position of U.S. Presidential Nominee for the
Democratic Party.
Sorry to see him go. I did not know all that much about him on an
individual or on a one on one level... but he struck me as the best in
the bunch for his stands on all issues and for his overall decency.
Well, now that I do not have any horse in the race, at all, I suppose
that I can just..... Let Loose with both barrels against all of the
rest as to issues....(which fits in with my favored and mostly
accurate attitude.... "Damn 'em all, what makes any one of these
J'mokes think that they know anything better or more than I do...?").
Correction..."Unfortunately, the four Democratic Primary States that
were "banned
out" of the contest by the DNC".... I wrote that a few posts back, I
should have said "two" in reference to Florida and Michigan alone....
I compress or change my train of thought for composition and I'm lazy
at proof reading.
Super Tuesday.... February 5, 2008.... coming up for the U.S.
Presidential Primaries.... lots of States in play... all between the
"Oreo-Coalition Obama" and the "Hilarious Hillary Clinton".... The
polls say that Hillary has the edge....but it may not be enough to win
the required Primary "majority" delegate numbers....
nominal9
nominal9
Jan 31, 2008, 12:49:48 PM1/31/08
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jVbvfaTjQtevryQeGj7a0XOOwGlQD8UGJ7SG0
Here's a link to a real news story regarding the continuing
hardships in New Orleans.
This is what the politicians "should" be discussing and trying to
remedy.
But, none of the " Contending Leaders" on either political side
want to touch this issue
.... the Republicans (McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul) because they
could care less about these people as voters or otherwise
... and the Democrats (O-re-O Obama and the Hilarious Hillary Cli'ton)
because, although they want their votes, they don't want to "imply"
that they would actually do anything to help them, as this might have
a backlash in "overall" (read "white" or "middle to upper class")
public opinion.....
Yes it's a Race and/or Class arguement, on my part.
...... Happens to fit.
nominal9
On Jan 30, 1:15 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/us/politics/30cnd-edwards.html?ref=...
Here's a link to a real news story regarding the continuing
hardships in New Orleans.
This is what the politicians "should" be discussing and trying to
remedy.
But, none of the " Contending Leaders" on either political side
want to touch this issue
.... the Republicans (McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul) because they
could care less about these people as voters or otherwise
... and the Democrats (O-re-O Obama and the Hilarious Hillary Cli'ton)
because, although they want their votes, they don't want to "imply"
that they would actually do anything to help them, as this might have
a backlash in "overall" (read "white" or "middle to upper class")
public opinion.....
Yes it's a Race and/or Class arguement, on my part.
...... Happens to fit.
nominal9
On Jan 30, 1:15 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/us/politics/30cnd-edwards.html?ref=...
nominal9
Feb 29, 2008, 1:30:39 PM2/29/08
to Epistemology
Welll howdy y'all....
I haven't been talking "politics" too much recently..... I've been Too
Disgusted....
Here's a laugher....all three of "big" candidates on both sides of
the Democratic - Republican divide make a big deal of claiming that
they are not subject to "Lobbyist" influence....
Do you all know what the "Biggest" Lobby in the U.S. is??? Well, it is
the Israel Lobby, of course.... and all of the candidates have been
doing their best to "assert" their pro-Israel "creds"....
This has been especially tough on Barack H. Obama lately. Ol' "O-re-O
Obama" has a bit of a problem in this regard....
For one thing.... it appears that O-re-O Obama's Dad (besides being
Black an African) was an honest to goodness.... Muslim.... when it
came to religion....sure could be an anti-Israeli.But hey, look on the
"bright" side... Obama's Mom (besides being White and American) was a
Christian... Phew, lucky thing there... all Obama has to do is
"Renounce and Reject" his Black African Muslim Father in favor of his
White American Christian Mother..... no big deal.
http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1988988,00.html
Then there's another little.... difficulty... it seems that "O-re-O"
Obama was photographed in a "muslim-looking" getup when he visited his
father's African Homeland. some time ago....Looks pretty fishy... he
could be anti-Israel. Hey, that's not a deal breaker... just "Renounce
and Reject" it all as a "gimmick" to show hospitality to the....
natives....
http://www.thestar.com/USElection/article/306853
But then there's also the fact that Obama's middle name is
"Hussein".....Let's see... didn't that fella that the U.S. (and
England?) went to war against in Iraq have a name like that?... What
was it? Saddam Hussein? That sounds really Muslim and .... anti-
Israel. Well, of course that is really just a coincidence......, I
know, let's see if we can't all "Renounce and Reject" using
Obama's.... H-word... middle name.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718255,00.html
How about O-re-O Obama's pastor, though?.... Folks like (Shit Sean)
Hannity have said that this Pastor J.A. Wright, Jr. runs a black
separatist church and that .... as a Christian (yeah, right?) this
Pastor Wright is friendly with and approves of Louis B. Farrakhan....
an avowed anti-Israeli and even called an anti-Semite by many. Well,
that's kind of tough to deal with, I mean, it isn't as though O-re-O
Obama can Reject and Renounce the fact that he and his wife were
married by that Pastor...But hey, let's just say that the Pastor was
trying to be "ecumenical" in his relationshipfs with the leaders of
another "Black" religious affiliation.... And of course.... Obama
himself also Renounces and Rejects any and all Separatist or Muslim or
even remotely anti-Israeli things that the Pastor may have said....
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703220005
The Final Straw, though has to be the fact that this Louis B.
Farrakhan, himself, endorsed O-re-O Obama publicly. I mean, like we
said.... this Farrakhan has a "rep" a mile long for being anti-Israeli
and anti-Semitic... Certainly, Obama "Renounces and Rejects"
everything that Minister Farrakhan says and stands for.... (even those
marches in Washington?.... I wonder.) O-re-O Obama doesn't have any
"control" about who does or does not support him after all.... even
if that person or those folks still continue to support him after
they've been "Renounced and Rejected".
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5juBLz3b3iqwjHaWyv5nE8li0KWWAD8V3ITMO1
I don't know what else poor O-re-O Obama can do to demonstrate his pro-
Israel bona fides...... I wonder if Obama has been circumcised,
yet???? If so, maybe they could go one further and just CASTRATE HIM
ALTOGETHER...
What a Fuckin' Joke.... all from someone who is.... above being
influenced by .... Lobbies.
I think I may go with.... Ralph Nader....maybe?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jRe7-1GipomU41w-Gp2uGsR3P__AD8V3G1U03
nominal9
On Jan 31, 12:49 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jVbvfaTjQtevryQeGj7a0XOOwGlQD8UGJ7SG0
>
> Here's a link to a real news story regarding the continuing
> hardships in New Orleans.
> This is what the politicians "should" be discussing and trying to
> remedy.
> But, none of the " Contending Leaders" on either political side
> want to touch this issue
> .... the Republicans (McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul) because they
> could care less about these people as voters or otherwise
> ... and the Democrats (O-re-OObamaand the Hilarious Hillary Cli'ton)
> > "Oreo-CoalitionObama" and the "Hilarious Hillary Clinton".... The
> > > > > > > CandidateObama.... but I do harbor some sympathy for the fellow
> > > > > > > considering the "trashing" thatObamahas been getting from former
> > > > > > > >Obamawon the Democratic Party "Iowa Caucuses"....
I haven't been talking "politics" too much recently..... I've been Too
Disgusted....
Here's a laugher....all three of "big" candidates on both sides of
the Democratic - Republican divide make a big deal of claiming that
they are not subject to "Lobbyist" influence....
Do you all know what the "Biggest" Lobby in the U.S. is??? Well, it is
the Israel Lobby, of course.... and all of the candidates have been
doing their best to "assert" their pro-Israel "creds"....
This has been especially tough on Barack H. Obama lately. Ol' "O-re-O
Obama" has a bit of a problem in this regard....
For one thing.... it appears that O-re-O Obama's Dad (besides being
Black an African) was an honest to goodness.... Muslim.... when it
came to religion....sure could be an anti-Israeli.But hey, look on the
"bright" side... Obama's Mom (besides being White and American) was a
Christian... Phew, lucky thing there... all Obama has to do is
"Renounce and Reject" his Black African Muslim Father in favor of his
White American Christian Mother..... no big deal.
http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1988988,00.html
Then there's another little.... difficulty... it seems that "O-re-O"
Obama was photographed in a "muslim-looking" getup when he visited his
father's African Homeland. some time ago....Looks pretty fishy... he
could be anti-Israel. Hey, that's not a deal breaker... just "Renounce
and Reject" it all as a "gimmick" to show hospitality to the....
natives....
http://www.thestar.com/USElection/article/306853
But then there's also the fact that Obama's middle name is
"Hussein".....Let's see... didn't that fella that the U.S. (and
England?) went to war against in Iraq have a name like that?... What
was it? Saddam Hussein? That sounds really Muslim and .... anti-
Israel. Well, of course that is really just a coincidence......, I
know, let's see if we can't all "Renounce and Reject" using
Obama's.... H-word... middle name.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718255,00.html
How about O-re-O Obama's pastor, though?.... Folks like (Shit Sean)
Hannity have said that this Pastor J.A. Wright, Jr. runs a black
separatist church and that .... as a Christian (yeah, right?) this
Pastor Wright is friendly with and approves of Louis B. Farrakhan....
an avowed anti-Israeli and even called an anti-Semite by many. Well,
that's kind of tough to deal with, I mean, it isn't as though O-re-O
Obama can Reject and Renounce the fact that he and his wife were
married by that Pastor...But hey, let's just say that the Pastor was
trying to be "ecumenical" in his relationshipfs with the leaders of
another "Black" religious affiliation.... And of course.... Obama
himself also Renounces and Rejects any and all Separatist or Muslim or
even remotely anti-Israeli things that the Pastor may have said....
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703220005
The Final Straw, though has to be the fact that this Louis B.
Farrakhan, himself, endorsed O-re-O Obama publicly. I mean, like we
said.... this Farrakhan has a "rep" a mile long for being anti-Israeli
and anti-Semitic... Certainly, Obama "Renounces and Rejects"
everything that Minister Farrakhan says and stands for.... (even those
marches in Washington?.... I wonder.) O-re-O Obama doesn't have any
"control" about who does or does not support him after all.... even
if that person or those folks still continue to support him after
they've been "Renounced and Rejected".
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5juBLz3b3iqwjHaWyv5nE8li0KWWAD8V3ITMO1
I don't know what else poor O-re-O Obama can do to demonstrate his pro-
Israel bona fides...... I wonder if Obama has been circumcised,
yet???? If so, maybe they could go one further and just CASTRATE HIM
ALTOGETHER...
What a Fuckin' Joke.... all from someone who is.... above being
influenced by .... Lobbies.
I think I may go with.... Ralph Nader....maybe?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jRe7-1GipomU41w-Gp2uGsR3P__AD8V3G1U03
nominal9
On Jan 31, 12:49 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jVbvfaTjQtevryQeGj7a0XOOwGlQD8UGJ7SG0
>
> Here's a link to a real news story regarding the continuing
> hardships in New Orleans.
> This is what the politicians "should" be discussing and trying to
> remedy.
> But, none of the " Contending Leaders" on either political side
> want to touch this issue
> .... the Republicans (McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul) because they
> could care less about these people as voters or otherwise
> > polls say that Hillary has the edge....but it may not be enough to win
> > the required Primary "majority" delegate numbers....
> > nominal9
>
> > On Jan 29, 12:58 pm, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sadly there have been no new management techniques since the Royal
> > > Navy decided to flog less often and feed its crews decently. Even
> > > this technique is in short supply.
>
> > > Neil
>
> > > On Jan 29, 5:16 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > We have the technology to render it all redundant. /Archytas
>
> > > > How's that.... what technology and render what redundant? Elections,
> > > > Parties, Government? Can yuo give me more detail, when you get the
> > > > chance? Is there a new "management technique" out thaer that does away
> > > > with any or all of this, POLITICAL STUFF?
> > > > nominal9
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 6:24 pm, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > We could do without politics in this form and leadership in this crazy
> > > > > sense. We have the technology to render it all redundant. None of
> > > > > them even start to make me think they could do a good job.
>
> > > > > Neil
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 5:13 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Well....
> > > > > > the Oprah andObamaLeadership Coalition won a big one in South
> > the required Primary "majority" delegate numbers....
> > nominal9
>
> > On Jan 29, 12:58 pm, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sadly there have been no new management techniques since the Royal
> > > Navy decided to flog less often and feed its crews decently. Even
> > > this technique is in short supply.
>
> > > Neil
>
> > > On Jan 29, 5:16 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > We have the technology to render it all redundant. /Archytas
>
> > > > How's that.... what technology and render what redundant? Elections,
> > > > Parties, Government? Can yuo give me more detail, when you get the
> > > > chance? Is there a new "management technique" out thaer that does away
> > > > with any or all of this, POLITICAL STUFF?
> > > > nominal9
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 6:24 pm, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > We could do without politics in this form and leadership in this crazy
> > > > > sense. We have the technology to render it all redundant. None of
> > > > > them even start to make me think they could do a good job.
>
> > > > > Neil
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 5:13 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Well....
> > > > > > > considering the "trashing" thatObamahas been getting from former
> > > > > > > U.S. President "Bill" Clinton... husband of another current
> > > > > > > Democratic Party Candidate, Hillary Clinton.http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2244653,00.html
> > > > > > > My own opinion is thatObamahas been much too... civil... in his
> > > > > > > Democratic Party Candidate, Hillary Clinton.http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2244653,00.html
> > > > > > > handling of the Clintons.....especially of Bill "the Judas Goat"
> > > > > > > Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
> > > > > > > presidency....Obama's "line" to Hillary should have been....
> > > > > > > Clinton, as I dubbed him years ago during his 1990's stint in the
>
> > > > > > > > My opinions, in the preceding posts above, still hold.
>
> > > > > > > > In all transparency, I would and do prefer John Edwards.
>
> > > > > > > > Give it time..... maybe the Democrats will come arouund.
> > > > > > > > nominal9
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 23 2007, 3:33 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > What.... no comments????
>
> > > > > > > > > "Sure, they have time to
> > > > > > > > > hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of
> > > > > > > > > fans
> > > > > > > > > and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
> > > > > > > > > single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
> > > > > > > > > survivors......"
>
> > > > > > > > > No one even wrote to say that I didn't know that the rallies (and
> > > > > > > > > primary) were in South Carolina... not North Carolina, as I wrote????
> > > > > > > > > I thought, for sure, someone would be "picayune" enough to try to
> > > > > > > > > discredit me on that score, at least....( Point is, sometimes I even
> > > > > > > > > make mistakes "on purpose".... just to sucker 'em in )... but I got no
> > > > > > > > > takers....
>
> > > > > > > > > For those Europeans or others out there who did not get the insult/
> > > > > > > > > pun.... It all hinges on the following "lines" from my original
> > > > > > > > > posting.
>
> > > > > > > > > "Where are what I call
> > > > > > > > > the
>
> > > > > > > > My opinions, in the preceding posts above, still hold.
>
> > > > > > > > In all transparency, I would and do prefer John Edwards.
>
> > > > > > > > Give it time..... maybe the Democrats will come arouund.
> > > > > > > > nominal9
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 23 2007, 3:33 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > What.... no comments????
>
> > > > > > > > > "Sure, they have time to
> > > > > > > > > hold huge rallies in North Carolina, drawing tens of thousands of
> > > > > > > > > fans
> > > > > > > > > and voters.... but they don't seem to have a minute to even say one
> > > > > > > > > single word about these homeless and seemingly forgotten Katrina
> > > > > > > > > survivors......"
>
> > > > > > > > > No one even wrote to say that I didn't know that the rallies (and
> > > > > > > > > primary) were in South Carolina... not North Carolina, as I wrote????
> > > > > > > > > I thought, for sure, someone would be "picayune" enough to try to
> > > > > > > > > discredit me on that score, at least....( Point is, sometimes I even
> > > > > > > > > make mistakes "on purpose".... just to sucker 'em in )... but I got no
> > > > > > > > > takers....
>
> > > > > > > > > For those Europeans or others out there who did not get the insult/
> > > > > > > > > pun.... It all hinges on the following "lines" from my original
> > > > > > > > > posting.
>
> > > > > > > > > "Where are what I call
> > > > > > > > > the
>
nominal9
Mar 1, 2008, 10:14:52 AM3/1/08
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Come on Fellas....
Somebody "bite" on this one..
I really feel like talking down and dirty politics.... without any
"filters" or self-censorship.
From the gut, as it were....
No takers.... Heck, I'm even willing to try to discuss British
politics if you want???? Just with a slant to the U.S involvement or
interests.... so I have at least a notion as to what we may be talking
about.....
nominal9
On Feb 29, 1:30 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Welll howdy y'all....
> I haven't been talking "politics" too much recently..... I've been Too
> Disgusted....
> Here's a laugher....all three of "big" candidates on both sides of
> the Democratic - Republican divide make a big deal of claiming that
> they are not subject to "Lobbyist" influence....
> Do you all know what the "Biggest" Lobby in the U.S. is??? Well, it is
> the Israel Lobby, of course.... and all of the candidates have been
> doing their best to "assert" their pro-Israel "creds"....
> This has been especially tough on Barack H. Obama lately. Ol' "O-re-O
> Obama" has a bit of a problem in this regard....
>
> For one thing.... it appears that O-re-O Obama's Dad (besides being
> Black an African) was an honest to goodness.... Muslim.... when it
> came to religion....sure could be an anti-Israeli.But hey, look on the
> "bright" side... Obama's Mom (besides being White and American) was a
> Christian... Phew, lucky thing there... all Obama has to do is
> "Renounce and Reject" his Black African Muslim Father in favor of his
> White American Christian Mother..... no big deal.http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1988988,00.html
Somebody "bite" on this one..
I really feel like talking down and dirty politics.... without any
"filters" or self-censorship.
From the gut, as it were....
No takers.... Heck, I'm even willing to try to discuss British
politics if you want???? Just with a slant to the U.S involvement or
interests.... so I have at least a notion as to what we may be talking
about.....
nominal9
On Feb 29, 1:30 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Welll howdy y'all....
> I haven't been talking "politics" too much recently..... I've been Too
> Disgusted....
> Here's a laugher....all three of "big" candidates on both sides of
> the Democratic - Republican divide make a big deal of claiming that
> they are not subject to "Lobbyist" influence....
> Do you all know what the "Biggest" Lobby in the U.S. is??? Well, it is
> the Israel Lobby, of course.... and all of the candidates have been
> doing their best to "assert" their pro-Israel "creds"....
> This has been especially tough on Barack H. Obama lately. Ol' "O-re-O
> Obama" has a bit of a problem in this regard....
>
> For one thing.... it appears that O-re-O Obama's Dad (besides being
> Black an African) was an honest to goodness.... Muslim.... when it
> came to religion....sure could be an anti-Israeli.But hey, look on the
> "bright" side... Obama's Mom (besides being White and American) was a
> Christian... Phew, lucky thing there... all Obama has to do is
> "Renounce and Reject" his Black African Muslim Father in favor of his
>
> Then there's another little.... difficulty... it seems that "O-re-O"
> Obama was photographed in a "muslim-looking" getup when he visited his
> father's African Homeland. some time ago....Looks pretty fishy... he
> could be anti-Israel. Hey, that's not a deal breaker... just "Renounce
> and Reject" it all as a "gimmick" to show hospitality to the....
> natives....http://www.thestar.com/USElection/article/306853
> Then there's another little.... difficulty... it seems that "O-re-O"
> Obama was photographed in a "muslim-looking" getup when he visited his
> father's African Homeland. some time ago....Looks pretty fishy... he
> could be anti-Israel. Hey, that's not a deal breaker... just "Renounce
> and Reject" it all as a "gimmick" to show hospitality to the....
>
> But then there's also the fact that Obama's middle name is
> "Hussein".....Let's see... didn't that fella that the U.S. (and
> England?) went to war against in Iraq have a name like that?... What
> was it? Saddam Hussein? That sounds really Muslim and .... anti-
> Israel. Well, of course that is really just a coincidence......, I
> know, let's see if we can't all "Renounce and Reject" using
> Obama's.... H-word... middle name.http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718255,00.html
> But then there's also the fact that Obama's middle name is
> "Hussein".....Let's see... didn't that fella that the U.S. (and
> England?) went to war against in Iraq have a name like that?... What
> was it? Saddam Hussein? That sounds really Muslim and .... anti-
> Israel. Well, of course that is really just a coincidence......, I
> know, let's see if we can't all "Renounce and Reject" using
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