Re: [epistemology 0] Digest for epistemology@googlegroups.com - 23 Messages in 7 Topics

[michael atovigba]

Just to observe that what is called a vacuum contains either light to enable physicists see that there is nothing inside the vacuum or darkness to frustrate them from seeing anything inside the space in question. But Eistein has told us that light is made of ether which is a particle hence the vacuum theory is nullified. If the vacuum contains darkness, but darkness is the oposite of light hence it too is matter incorporated, may be we called anti-ether. Consequently there is no vacuum.

-Garshagu Atovigba

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM, <episte...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics

• Different points of view. [13 Updates]
• Relativity One almost ready to use black fuel [3 Updates]
• Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies. [1 Update]
• Virgin Mary - new advent [1 Update]
• [epistemology 0] Digest for episte...@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 2 Topics [1 Update]
• B.O.DI.C.E.A. C.A.N.C.E.R. [1 Update]
• Claude Levi-Strauss dies [3 Updates]

 Topic: Different points of view.

ornamentalmind <ornamen...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 12:57PM -0800

 
I can, but will not. I will let you have the pleasure of doing your
own research.
 


 

"Serenity Smiles" <gentle....@hotmail.co.uk> Nov 27 07:32PM

 
Madhayamaka Buddhism vis a vis Hindu vedanta - this is a very good site to
visit. have not studied it fully myself yet
 
--------------------------------------------------
From: "nominal9" <nomi...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:57 PM
To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [epistemology 10995] Re: Different points of view.
 


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:06PM -0800

 
I would doubt Nom that any of this kind of void has anything to do
with thoughts in physics about the nature of emptiness. This is about
essential conditions in being. I'd admit to some similarities with
relativity. There is stuff to learn from these sources though I don't
see it boiling down to much.
 
On 27 Nov, 19:32, "Serenity Smiles" <gentle.esse...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:13PM -0800

 
'Holes' come in for much philosophical treatment too. Early atomist
theories made much of them and voids. Newton got rather a long way by
construing space as separate from body. If the experience of
emptiness is to make all relative then I can't make it as I'm sure I
wouldn't stay here if all was such.
 


 

ornamentalmind <ornamen...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 11:25PM -0800

 
“… If the experience of emptiness is to make all relative then I can't
make it as I'm sure I wouldn't stay here if all was such.” – archy
 
No need to leave then Neil!
 
As far as I can tell, there is no ‘making’ involved…such activity
would be like standing before one of Van Gogh’s Starry Night paintings
and tagging it (spray painting it). In this sense, what is …is.
 
In an apparently different sense, any such analysis of anything
apprehended through the senses will include a related conceptual
nature (as well as a contextual nature). Emptiness merely means the
truth that anything is empty of inherent existence. No thing/thought
arises out of nothing. Further, such things have component parts. If
they are conceptual or perceptual, specific thoughts/words etc. are
involved and have direct links to it and those so linked things are a
part and parcel of the thing currently under investigation. Thus, it
is related to other things/thoughts/concepts etc. Being so related
directly implies a relationship and relative nature. This all
identifies the set of relative/subjective ‘mind’.
 
There also exists that which has no components or movement. This is
the absolute/objective ‘mind’.
 
And, we have in fact produced a synthetic separation here too.
 
On a more mundane level, Albert E.’s addition of relativity to western
thought has helped to support and change previous anti-metaphysical
views. The result is the philosophical corner currently most find
themselves painted into. A more practical level helps one to
understand how politicians, educators, thinkers etc. now find no
‘center’…no ethos other than one without a possibility of actual
ethics. This because ‘everything is relative’. Well, it is for their
thinking…but not in any other way.
 
 


 

Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 11:29PM -0800

 
=============
G:
There are no "thoughts in physics about the nature of emptiness".
Physics never met her.
Georges
================


 

socratus <isr...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 02:56AM -0800

 
> Georges
> ================
 
I would doubt Nom that any of this
kind of void has anything to do
with thoughts in physics about the nature of
emptiness.
/ archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> /
 
=============== .
#
Don’t be doubt ‘ archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> ‘
1.
Thermodynamics meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
2.
Maxwell electrodynamics meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
3.
SRT meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
4
GRT meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
5.
Atom meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
6.
Outer space meets with the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
7.
Religion doesn’t exist without the Void/ Emptiness/ Vacuum.
== .
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless
infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/topics/space
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18-nothingness-of-space-theory-of-everything
!!!!!!!!!!!
================ . .


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:09AM -0800

 
Surely there are some thoughts Georges, otherwise how do we arrive at
the notion of something 'empty' only on average?
 


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:10AM -0800

 
Relativity can be traced to much earlier times than Einstein. I'm not
sure the corner is painted to anyway. Most current problems are to do
with idiot thinking.
 


 

Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 05:25AM -0800

 
============
G:
Not in physics. And even in current language "empty glass" means
having no wine, but contains air. And words are there to HINT
the meaning, but taken verbatim hide it.
Georges
==============


 

nominal9 <nomi...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 06:31AM -0800

 
I can, but will not. I will let you have the pleasure of doing your
own research. / Ornamentalmind
 
Oh, so that;s the way of it, is it?... Well, if you're going to be
"snooty".... let me be a bit "sarcastic" in return....If I assume that
this "void" exists only in some contemplative or meditative state
attained in the mind of the Adept... does that mean that the said
Adept-practitioner is .... empty-headed?....
nominal9
 
 


 

ornamentalmind <ornamen...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 08:47AM -0800

 
...for you, the 'lazy' one, it is nom! :-)
 


 

ornamentalmind <ornamen...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 08:52AM -0800

 
Interesting notion archy...idiot thinking. With almost 20 million
Google hits, one would think I should know what it means. Alas, I am
lacking in that regard…having no specific tenets for this class of
thought let alone other criteria for it other than obviously I don’t
think that way. (irony)
 


 

 Topic: Relativity One almost ready to use black fuel

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:21PM -0800

 
There are some interesting bits and pieces around about close to light
flight using dark matter. This would allow rapid acceleration to near
the speed of light, but has a downside in that we would have to get
close to the galaxy centre to find enough of the stuff (one reason the
aliens ain't here is because we lack the stuff). One possibility
would be to get out there using antimatter or fusion power. All ideas
welcomed. Containing dark matter might be tough, but there may be
particles that interaction strongly with it and our general stuff.
And what about the biology of getting to and being at close to light
speeds?


 

Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 11:24PM -0800

 
=============
There is dark matter and there is dark grasp. The fabric of dark matter
is as yet unknown and there are only timid trials to form some
hypothesis. One is mine in
http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/SECOND_ENLIGHTENMENT/0h_dark_matter.html
How good it is I can't say, but at least it tries to shed some light
on the dark.
Georges
===============


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:04AM -0800

 
It is easier in my book Georges, thanks to no need for language for
the characters other than in leisure pursuits. I did think of a big
sail ship powered by lasers using energy from an array cooling the
Earth. By the time I was reading about non-particle particles, the
realisation I'm writing for three-quarter wits who struggle with
elementary trig made me give up on staying too close to what might be
in current speculation. The phrase metalanguage shorthand is useful.
Can't find a beep on biological implications other than the clocks
running slower etc.
 


 

 Topic: Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies.

socratus <isr...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 03:30AM -0800

 
Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies.
========
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
For example: God created woman from Adam’s rib,
using physical laws. So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
 
Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
#
Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cosmic-cannibalising-images-show-one-galaxy-engulfing-another-1780652.html
#
The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk/the-recent-discovery-of-one-galaxy-attacking-another.html
. . .. etc
So, what is Physics?
Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
== .
What to do?
I think we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn’t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
=== .
Some more ‘ true’ Physical fables and fantasies.
=== .
1.
The Big Bang.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and their
girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks, all kinds of
waves: electromagnetic, gravitational, muons…
gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a ‘single point ‘
=== .
I don’t agree with the ‘big bang’ theory because nobody
knows how the ‘ big bang’ can change into ‘single point ‘
if Hawking’s radiation from ‘ black hole’ doesn’t give it
to happen.
2.
Most of elementary particles were got in artificial way,
using accelerators. This way, in my opinion, is mistaken.
=== .
In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
human body and animal’s head. They thought they really
existed. For me these new discovered elementary artificial
particles are similar to Egyptian’s gods because we cannot
meet them into any atom, in any physical, chemical, biological
processes on our Earth.
In the Ancient Greek the people believed that sphinxes and
centaurs really exist. Maybe now some geneticists can create
a centaur, but it will be Devil’s work. I am sorry to tell that,
but it seems to me, physicists, creating such elementary
artificial particles look like those ‘some geneticists’.
( The mad CERN’s way.
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-project
)
=========== .
3.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, there was ‘ bin bang’.
And every particle appears with its own spin as derivative from
the Big Bang.
== .
I think the spin of quantum particle doesn’t come from
big bang, but it comes with ‘ virtual particle from Dirac’s sea’.
Why?
We have the real particle – electron. Nobody doubts
it is a real particle. But a strange thing happens when it
interacts with Vacuum. All its physical parameters become
infinite. Why? Is it possible? What is the reason?
#
The conditions of the ocean permitted to create different kinds
of fish. The terrestrial’s conditions permitted to create different
kinds of animals. And the ‘mixed’ conditions of water, earth
and air on Earth permitted to create, for example, birds, which
live and act in these three conditions.
And if we take Universe as a whole, it is Two- Measured:
close by Material ( Gravity) World exists Infinite Vacuum World.
The conditions in these two Worlds are different.
And when electron moves from Material (Gravity) World to the
Infinite Vacuum World its physical parameters changes.
" The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass"
is connected with electron’s transformation.
 
We know the electron is very important particle in our live.
It acts in Maxwell’s electrodynamics.
It acts in the atom.
But how electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don’t know.
We need time to understand this fact.
=== .
P.S.
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
==== .
Another ‘ true’ Physical fables and fantasies:
The time that stretches and space that expands,
dark matter, dark energy, Higgs boson, quarks, gluons
and tachyons, axions and partons, qravitino ,
‘ method of renormalization ‘ . . etc.
========== .
P.S.
" One thing I have learned in a long life:
that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive
and childlike - and yet it is the most precious thing we have."
/ Einstein./
This quote is correct, because, at last, only Physics can
logically explain us the Ultimate Nature of Reality.
==========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.
 
======================== .


 

 Topic: Virgin Mary - new advent

"Serenity Smiles" <gentle....@hotmail.co.uk> Nov 28 10:07AM

 
Father
Unknown
Conceptualised
Kin
Including
Natural
Grandfather
 
Lives
In
Artificial
Reality
Systems
 
Reverse this and see what happens, make it a legal right to know one's family tree, no-one is conceptualised fatherless


 

 Topic: [epistemology 0] Digest for episte...@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 2 Topics

Hem Joshi <hem....@gmail.com> Nov 28 11:34AM +0530

 
The Topic "Different points of view" in itself is a great subject of
discussion where everyone can explore his/her own potentials and knowledge
about anything that exists in our Universe/country/society/village/
town/lane/home and above all within his/her own existence. Its like a
nuclear chain reaction where every single atom is exited to the extent
to utilize its last existence.
 
 
--
with regards,
 
 
Hem Joshi


 

 Topic: B.O.DI.C.E.A. C.A.N.C.E.R.

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 04:03PM -0800

 
Perhaps he's one of those technojerkoffs who have worked out how to
embed machine code in the run of text and its trying to spread
viruses? I'm off to Pharyngula for some atheist company.
 


 

 Topic: Claude Levi-Strauss dies

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 12:00PM -0800

 
Couldn't agree more - these enquiries are Blott on the Landscape. I
have at least triumphed in disabling my capslock key!
 


 

chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 12:14PM -0800

 
I find pressing it works
 


 

archytas <arch...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 01:44PM -0800

 
The bastard was responsible for 90% of my typos. Now I can hit it as
often as I like without ending up re-writing. Of course, I had to
bribe the whole Belgian Government to do this! I still hold out a
little hope that such 'roadblocks' are what stop was getting a half-
way decent society. I'm working on a similar fix for politicians and
religionists.
 


 

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[einseele]

IMHO vacuum it is only possible in language, and frankly I doubt that
too, because we need the word to refer it. I agree there is no vacuum.
Although there is a meaning, this is, we refer to vacuum, and that's
it.

On 30 nov, 10:24, michael atovigba <mikeatovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to observe that what is called a vacuum contains either light to enable
> physicists see that there is nothing inside the vacuum or darkness to
> frustrate them from seeing anything inside the space in question. But
> Eistein has told us that light is made of ether which is a particle hence
> the vacuum theory is nullified. If the vacuum contains darkness, but
> darkness is the oposite of light hence it too is matter incorporated, may
> be we called anti-ether. Consequently there is no vacuum.
> -Garshagu Atovigba
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM, <episte...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >   Today's Topic Summary
>
> > Group:http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics
>

> >    - Different points of view.<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[13 Updates]
> >    - Relativity One almost ready to use black fuel<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[3 Updates]
> >    - Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies.<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[1 Update]
> >    - Virgin Mary - new advent<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[1 Update]
> >    - [epistemology 0] Digest for episte...@googlegroups.com - 3
> >    Messages in 2 Topics<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[1 Update]
> >    - B.O.DI.C.E.A. C.A.N.C.E.R.<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[1 Update]
> >    - Claude Levi-Strauss dies<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=ZZ4KpTfy1bY.en....>[3 Updates]
>
> >  Topic: Different points of view.<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/e352b1aa9c1664fe>
>
> >    ornamentalmind <ornamentalm...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 12:57PM -0800

>
> >    I can, but will not. I will let you have the pleasure of doing your
> >    own research.
>

> >    "Serenity Smiles" <gentle.esse...@hotmail.co.uk> Nov 27 07:32PM

>
> >    Madhayamaka Buddhism vis a vis Hindu vedanta - this is a very good site
> >    to
> >    visit. have not studied it fully myself yet
>
> >    --------------------------------------------------

> >    From: "nominal9" <nomin...@yahoo.com>

> >    Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:57 PM
> >    To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> >    Subject: [epistemology 10995] Re: Different points of view.
>

> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:06PM -0800

>
> >    I would doubt Nom that any of this kind of void has anything to do
> >    with thoughts in physics about the nature of emptiness. This is about
> >    essential conditions in being. I'd admit to some similarities with
> >    relativity. There is stuff to learn from these sources though I don't
> >    see it boiling down to much.
>
> >    On 27 Nov, 19:32, "Serenity Smiles" <gentle.esse...@hotmail.co.uk>
> >    wrote:
>

> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:13PM -0800

>
> >    'Holes' come in for much philosophical treatment too. Early atomist
> >    theories made much of them and voids. Newton got rather a long way by
> >    construing space as separate from body. If the experience of
> >    emptiness is to make all relative then I can't make it as I'm sure I
> >    wouldn't stay here if all was such.
>

> >    ornamentalmind <ornamentalm...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 11:25PM -0800

> >    socratus <isra...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 02:56AM -0800

> >    http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18-nothingness-of-space-theory-o...
> >    !!!!!!!!!!!
> >    ================ . .
>
> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:09AM -0800

>
> >    Surely there are some thoughts Georges, otherwise how do we arrive at
> >    the notion of something 'empty' only on average?
>

> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:10AM -0800

>
> >    Relativity can be traced to much earlier times than Einstein. I'm not
> >    sure the corner is painted to anyway. Most current problems are to do
> >    with idiot thinking.
>
> >    Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 05:25AM -0800
>
> >    ============
> >    G:
> >    Not in physics. And even in current language "empty glass" means
> >    having no wine, but contains air. And words are there to HINT
> >    the meaning, but taken verbatim hide it.
> >    Georges
> >    ==============
>

> >    nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 06:31AM -0800

>
> >    I can, but will not. I will let you have the pleasure of doing your
> >    own research. / Ornamentalmind
>
> >    Oh, so that;s the way of it, is it?... Well, if you're going to be
> >    "snooty".... let me be a bit "sarcastic" in return....If I assume that
> >    this "void" exists only in some contemplative or meditative state
> >    attained in the mind of the Adept... does that mean that the said
> >    Adept-practitioner is .... empty-headed?....
> >    nominal9
>

> >    ornamentalmind <ornamentalm...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 08:47AM -0800

>
> >    ...for you, the 'lazy' one, it is nom! :-)
>

> >    ornamentalmind <ornamentalm...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 08:52AM -0800

>
> >    Interesting notion archy...idiot thinking. With almost 20 million
> >    Google hits, one would think I should know what it means. Alas, I am
> >    lacking in that regard…having no specific tenets for this class of
> >    thought let alone other criteria for it other than obviously I don’t
> >    think that way. (irony)
>

> >  Topic: Relativity One almost ready to use black fuel<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/d1cbda86735dced9>
>
> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 10:21PM -0800

>
> >    There are some interesting bits and pieces around about close to light
> >    flight using dark matter. This would allow rapid acceleration to near
> >    the speed of light, but has a downside in that we would have to get
> >    close to the galaxy centre to find enough of the stuff (one reason the
> >    aliens ain't here is because we lack the stuff). One possibility
> >    would be to get out there using antimatter or fusion power. All ideas
> >    welcomed. Containing dark matter might be tough, but there may be
> >    particles that interaction strongly with it and our general stuff.
> >    And what about the biology of getting to and being at close to light
> >    speeds?
>
> >    Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 11:24PM -0800
>
> >    =============
> >    There is dark matter and there is dark grasp. The fabric of dark matter
> >    is as yet unknown and there are only timid trials to form some
> >    hypothesis. One is mine in
> >    http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/SECOND_ENLIGHTENMENT/0h_dark_matter.html
> >    How good it is I can't say, but at least it tries to shed some light
> >    on the dark.
> >    Georges
> >    ===============
>

> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 28 05:04AM -0800

>
> >    It is easier in my book Georges, thanks to no need for language for
> >    the characters other than in leisure pursuits. I did think of a big
> >    sail ship powered by lasers using energy from an array cooling the
> >    Earth. By the time I was reading about non-particle particles, the
> >    realisation I'm writing for three-quarter wits who struggle with
> >    elementary trig made me give up on staying too close to what might be
> >    in current speculation. The phrase metalanguage shorthand is useful.
> >    Can't find a beep on biological implications other than the clocks
> >    running slower etc.
>

> >  Topic: Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies.<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/5dd556974ff56a88>
>
> >    socratus <isra...@yahoo.com> Nov 28 03:30AM -0800

>
> >    Some ‘True’ Physical and Religious fables and fantasies.
> >    ========
> >    Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
> >    That is the truth.
> >    For example: God created woman from Adam’s rib,
> >    using physical laws. So, what is Religion?
> >    Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
>
> >    Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
> >    That is the truth.
> >    For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
> >    #
> >    Cosmic cannibalising:
> >    Images show one galaxy engulfing another
>

> >    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cosmic-cannibalising-images...

> >    #
> >    The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
>

> >    http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk/the-recent-discovery-of-one-galaxy-a...

> >    http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-...

> >  Topic: Virgin Mary - new advent<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/6d40493ffb4e1423>
>
> >    "Serenity Smiles" <gentle.esse...@hotmail.co.uk> Nov 28 10:07AM

>
> >    Father
> >    Unknown
> >    Conceptualised
> >    Kin
> >    Including
> >    Natural
> >    Grandfather
>
> >    Lives
> >    In
> >    Artificial
> >    Reality
> >    Systems
>
> >    Reverse this and see what happens, make it a legal right to know one's
> >    family tree, no-one is conceptualised fatherless
>
> >  Topic: [epistemology 0] Digest for episte...@googlegroups.com - 3

> > Messages in 2 Topics<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/dae60d139848d6fc>
>
> >    Hem Joshi <hem.de...@gmail.com> Nov 28 11:34AM +0530

>
> >    The Topic "Different points of view" in itself is a great subject of
> >    discussion where everyone can explore his/her own potentials and
> >    knowledge
> >    about anything that exists in our Universe/country/society/village/
> >    town/lane/home and above all within his/her own existence. Its like a
> >    nuclear chain reaction where every single atom is exited to the extent
> >    to utilize its last existence.
>
> >    --
> >    with regards,
>
> >    Hem Joshi
>

> >  Topic: B.O.DI.C.E.A. C.A.N.C.E.R.<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/1f7984c99d58fb31>
>
> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 04:03PM -0800

>
> >    Perhaps he's one of those technojerkoffs who have worked out how to
> >    embed machine code in the run of text and its trying to spread
> >    viruses? I'm off to Pharyngula for some atheist company.
>

> >  Topic: Claude Levi-Strauss dies<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/3d906bddb68a1406>
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> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 12:00PM -0800

>
> >    Couldn't agree more - these enquiries are Blott on the Landscape. I
> >    have at least triumphed in disabling my capslock key!
>

> >    chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> Nov 27 12:14PM -0800

>
> >    I find pressing it works
>

> >    archytas <archy...@live.co.uk> Nov 27 01:44PM -0800

>
> >    The bastard was responsible for 90% of my typos. Now I can hit it as
> >    often as I like without ending up re-writing. Of course, I had to
> >    bribe the whole Belgian Government to do this! I still hold out a
> >    little hope that such 'roadblocks' are what stop was getting a half-
> >    way decent society. I'm working on a similar fix for politicians and
> >    religionists.
>
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[archytas]

We'll all end up doing the hoovering at this rate. Much is defined by
what it is not. A vacuum is in a tube we have used the vacuum pump
on. We stick the smouldering taper into such a tube and it goes out.
In the tube with the oxygen in, it relights. Some Belgian guy looks
at mayonaisse and concludes vacuums are only empty (of certain stuff)
on average. I look at the bastard who's just put some on my chips as
a thoughtless get who should have asked me. I am vacuous compared
with the Belgian guy, but at least can't be accused of spoiling chips
with yellow muck. We model space between protons and electrons, then
fire neutrons at water and are 'told' it is H 1.5 O and begin talk of
entanglement. Georges breathes fire. I was at a conference with some
poncey organisational aestheticists some years back. An Italian said
hypertext was a visual medium. I said bollox - my blind mate was
aware of it. We laughed and had a drink. I liked him. One day, we
may fly to the stars on energy tapped from the vacuum (I favour a
Heath Robinson device based on my Mum's old Hoover Junior). Is light
skiing over the Higg's Field that other material can only swim in
treacle through? You are right in this 'logic' Carlos.

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