"Is possible to get THE WORLD'S END by a Math calculus?" - "Yes, here it is!", is the Romano Amodeo's "impossible" replay

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amoram

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:18:11 PM7/16/08
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Here is a FANTASTIC question:
"Was born, Jesus, just to reveal the world's end?"

In facts this precise math calculus, made in power:
[(10^5 ×10^100)^1/300]^2 = (10^0.35)^2 = 10^0.122500
"virtually" inserts Jesus into the world, with the most precision at
the 0,1225 power meaning year 0, month 12 and the precise day 25.00 of
the Christmas.

And this sequent similar calculus shows in the exponent 2012.122200 of
the power, the year 2012, month 12 and day 22.00 that had been already
predicted by the Mayas, how the end of a complete cycle of the Sun:

{ (10^10×10)^4
×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-2
×[(10^10×10)^6]^10^-4
×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-6
×(10^10×10^3)^10^-8 } ^2 =
(10^44.85668513)^2 = 10^2012.122200.
NOW I explain - step by step - these two "incredible" calculations.


JESUS CHRISTMAS, THROUGH:
[(10^5 ×10^100)^1/300]^2 = (10^0.35)^2 = 10^0.122500

10^5 ×10^100 (in atomic units named Angstrom) is the electric (or
magnetic) unit 10^5, multiplied by the 10^100 that is the Area of 1
m^2, in Angstrom^2, to get the electric (or magnetic) Volume 10^105.
It represents very well, "in transcendental meaning", also the
Communion Man-God, in its "divine" Volume.
The power 1/300, on (10^5 ×10^100), gets 1/3 of the Trinity xyz of
this Volume, how it is referred to 1/100 of the Area's power 100
before introduced, and so we have again a length, in power.
0.35^2 is ALL THE QUANTITY of the power 10^-35, that is contained in
the Area having the side 0.35 long in length.
Since 10^4 is ALL the reality, and 10^2 is ALL its Area, ALL the flow
in line is the same 10^2 quantity of the area.
So the area 0.35^2 = 0.122500 is also the number representing ALL the
flow in the line of the time, and it inserts Jesus into the world, in
the Christmas day of the 0 year, 12 (December), 25th.

You know that Jesus was born 5 years before of the 0 year based on
his birth... but something of "transcendent of the reality" collocated
this date in the "virtual" situation to be in the perfect line with
all the dimensions of the world. Is it happened for the "dogma" (of
the Christian Faith) of an "infallible Pope" ???


THE "END OF THE TIME" AS ALL THE MOVEMENT
OF THE 10^3 UNITARY MASSES CONTAINED IN 1 m^3

Now, the interesting continues, because if we consider ALL the
possible RUN of a volume 10^3 equal to 1 m^3 and containing all the
unitary quantity of kg, and if we do the same calculus, first of the
power in line and afterwards of the Area, to can know also ALL the
flow of the 10^3 unitary masses, we have just the power 2012.122200
meaning the END already expected by the Mayas. Let us see because.
We have now to control the calculus:

{ (10^10×10)^4
×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-2
×[(10^10×10)^6]^10^-4
×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-6
×(10^10×10^3)^10^-8 } ^2 =
(10^44.85668513)^2 = 10^2012.122200.
(10^10×10)^4 is equal to 10^11 (that represents the 10^10 angstroms
of 1 m, running in its 10 cycle of the time) at the 4 dimension of
the reality (3 of space and 1 of time). So its result is the power
10^44.

×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-2 represents the same 10^11, in the 2^3=8
dimensions of the complex volume having the side 2 formed by the
length from -1 to +1. Afterwards, the resulting 10^88 is divided by
all the 10^3 unitary masses, to count ALL THE RUN 10^85, of these
masses in 10^88 units.
The power 10^-2 of 10^85 gets 10^0.85 and refers (to the unit of the
meter) this quantity that, in itself, is the unit 10^-2 of the Area
10^2 of expansion.
This happens because the meter is the unitary reference of the
dimension 10^2 (in angstrom), whose unitary reference is 10^-2. So the
result is 10^0.85.

×[(10^10×10)^6]^10^-4 represents the same 10^11 power, that RUNS in
all the 6 direction +x +y +z -x -y -z, of the reality 10^4 that is
present in the total 10^10 Angstrom of 1 m. Naturally, they must be
represented in the unitary part of 10^4, that is 10^-4, so the power
10^-4 represents this unitary part. This result is 10^0.0066.

×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-6, at dimension 10^6 (of all the movement
of the reality 10^4, in 10^10 Angstrom of 1 m), represents its unit
10^-6. The quantity represented is [(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3], the same
10^85 already seen, that is ALL TE COMPLEX movement 8, of the 10^3
unitary masses of 1 m^3. Therefore the result is 10^0.000085.

×(10^10×10^3)^10^-8 represents at the dimension 10^8 of the light its
unit 10^-8. The quantity represented is the (10^10×10^3) that shows
all the absolute movement, of 1 m (equal to 10^10 angstrom), of all
the 10^3 unitary masses. Therefore 10^0.00000013.

The product 10^44 × 10^0.85 × 10^0.0066 × 10^0.000085 × 10^0.00000013
is 10^(44+0.85+0.0066+0.000085+0.00000013) = 10^44.85668513.

All this quantity, contained between the parenthesis braces { and },
is elevated to the square, because we need the Area of 10^44.85668513
which has the same number of the flow (since area 10^2 × length 10^2,
gets the reality 10^4). So, finally, { 10^44.85668513 } ^2 =
10^2012.122500 represents in power the date of the APOCALYPSE of the
year 2012, month 12, day 22.00 (with the absolute precision of 0.00
minutes)
In this way.... has GOD sent Jesus to establish the 0 year, necessary
to can do this perfect calculus of THE END OF THE WORLD ????
My calculus is really perfect one. Let us see it only in the exponents
of the powers.
44 is all the length 22 +22 of a real RUN (up and down) of the 22
cycles of 10 Volt relative to the most electric tension of 220 Volts.
44+44 -3 is the precedent 44, how it exists in the complex reality
going from -44 to +44 (in the positive-negative time), RUN only in
real way by the space having 3 dimensions. In the 10^-2 dimension
since that unitary of the "area" 10^2 of (10^44)^2, equal to the sum
44+44 of the exponents.
66 is all the length of the 11 dimensions (10 of space and 1 of time)
of the 10 cycle, RUN in the 6 directions +x+y+z-x-y-z. At the 10^-6
dimension of all the run of the reality 10^4 in 10^10, that is 10^6.
13 is all the run of the space 3, relative to the cycle 10 of the
unitary mass, at the 10^-8 unitary dimension of that 10^8 that is all
the run of the Area of 10^2 angstrom^2, in the total 10^10 angstrom
equal to 1 meter.

What is possible to tell in opposition? Will have the World this END?
All is BASED on the year 0 that we today have since Jesus Christ, and
on the "possible-impossible", "mistake-not mistake" of a Pope !!!

Romano Amodeo

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Jul 17, 2008, 2:00:59 AM7/17/08
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It is really a strange thing , but it has its big interest.

I already know the matter of the Maias, and the date of December 22th
of the 2012, but I didn't imagine there was this possibility.
Really 22 is the electric tension in 10 Volt, of the 220 generally in
use.
44, its double part, can be that negative-positive in the space,
88, its 4th parta, can be that of the 4 dimensions 3 of space and 1 of
time.
In power, 10^8 divided by 10^3 numbers really all the unitary masses
of the meter cube, and give the limit of this reality.

It is a question very important. The temeperature in augment in the
earth seems a sympton of a possible inversion of the poles of the
earth, because the electromagnetic limit so near.

well

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Jul 17, 2008, 4:01:05 AM7/17/08
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After Galileo Galilei, that told the same thing about ONE day, here’s
the same Idea, that appears again, now with reference to ALL the days
of the life!
It’s a great time that I’m quietly reading a lot of posts of the
Google newsgroups, but I have finally thought the necessity to take
word, to say to this new genius, Romano Amodeo, that he has done the
most important possible and existing thing so that Humanity be allowed
to recover its courage and hope.
We’re existing in a time of confusion, in which everything is told
without a possible rational support. People is against other People,
the North against the South of the world… finally here’s something of
positive sign!
I’ll search everywhere, in the newsgroups, the posts of this Italian
Romano Amodeo, that seems to me really a new Galileo, in order to
promote his innovative but also ancient assumptions.
I’ll do because when is the first time that similar things are heard,
they appear foolishnesses and stir up the worst instincts of the men.
Galileo risked the pyre! The Earth, suddenly, wasn’t at the centre of
the Universe!
He put the observer, to its centre, making something also more
important, because all the Universe was told rotating by the
observer’s rotation.


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terenz8

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Jul 17, 2008, 5:37:24 AM7/17/08
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I'm amazed. This calculus is real.
The enetering of Jesus in the world is really the electric volume got
by 10^5 (the elecric quantitity in 10^10 angstrom) multiplied by
(10^10)^2 that is the 1 m^2 expressed in angstrom. The volume is
really 10^105 angstrom^3 of electromagnetism.
Since we have 3 components of the volume, the cubed radix is the power
1/3, and gets the side 10^35.
The reduction to the unit, since 10^35 is referred to the area having
100 how power, is 1/100 in power, and the power 35 becomes 0.35.
It is true that we have a reality based on 10^4 quantity, since 10^3
are all the masses, in their unit, contained in one m^3. And it is
true that the length of the electric fow is 10^2 how the area 10^2,
becouse 10^2 x 10^2 is 10^4. So the area has the same number of the
length of the flow in the time.
Therefore 0.35, squared, is 0.1225 having the STRANGE equality to an
interpretation in years 0, months 12 and dais 25. It is the Christmas
day.
The calculus is real and starts from the atomic dimensions of the
flow, getting so a real representation that is conformed to the world!

Also the second calculus convinces.
22 are, in tenths, really the 220 Volts of the possible difference of
electric potential.
It goes from -11 till to +11, were 10 units (10 of space and 1 of
times), so 11, are the cycle 10 in 1 time.
On this 11 base, since 2^3=8 is the complex positive-negative volume,
11 x 8 = 88 is all the reality (4 real + 4 imaginary).
The division of 10^88 in 10^3, really gives the number of it in the
number of 10^85.
... All it is just, in the Romano Amodeo calculus... and it points the
limit to that 2012.1222 that can have the STRANGE interpretation of
2012 years, 12 months and 22 days.

I'm stunned but the Maia's predictions now have this STRANGE
mathematical confirmation.
The only point that can be discussed is really the START, of this
count, from the year 0 attributed to the birth - WRONG - of Jesus. In
fact the first calculus says that the December 25th of the year 0 is
the beginning... but of WHOM? of what?
Is it possible that this start begins from a "true mistake" of a Pope
that "cannot mistake"?


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amoram

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Oh, isn't so! I'm none. I think that everything happens only by the
force of the destiny how a present of God. If you see my site
www.ordinespiritosanto.com, here there is how this destiny works about
me.
You are very kind.
Thank you.
Romano
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amoram

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Is it amazing? I think so.
The critical point regards only the beginning. Why a start by the
Jesus birth, a start containing a real mistake and perhaps a
"transcendent" Truth.
Tank you for your control. We all must be always controlled in our
affirmations!

ornamentalmind

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amoram

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Our brain has the data 0001011001010... of a line of orders, that he
has to represent in the mind's categories of the time, space, mass,
electro-magnetism, and ligths, colours, sounds... buildin in this way
ALL THE FORMS of our "real" world.
Until the "time-duration" is gotten by the division:
299 792 458 : (300 000 000 -299 792 458) = 299 792 458 : 207 542 =
= 1444.49055... that represents the UNITARY MODEL.

In fact 10^3=1000, in this number, is the MODEL of all the unitary
masses.
444.4 represents the 4 dimensions of the space-time reality, through 3
"spaces" (the 444 bigger of 1) and 1 "time" (the only one 4 as the
decimal units of the unitary time).
90 x 10^-3 is the energy of the unitary mass 10^-3 of 1 m^3.
55 x 10^-5 is the electric quantity 50 more the magnetic quantity 5 in
the decimal perspective of the 10^5 (electric or magnetic quantity, in
the general 10^10 angstrom of 1 m).
IT IS CLEAREST!
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On Jul 16, 7:18 pm, amoram <ra.amo...@libero.it> wrote:
> Here is a FANTASTIC question:
> "Was born, Jesus, just to reveal the world's end?"

I think that his aim is to save the life... and this may be a real
way.
>
> In facts this precise math calculus, made in power:
> [(10^5 ×10^100)^1/300]^2 = (10^0.35)^2 = 10^0.122500
> "virtually" inserts Jesus into the world, with the most precision at
> the 0,1225 power meaning year 0, month 12 and the precise day 25.00 of
> the Christmas.
>
> And this sequent similar calculus shows in the exponent 2012.122200 of
> the power, the year 2012, month 12 and day 22.00 that had been already
> predicted by the Mayas, how the end of a complete cycle of the Sun:
>
> {   (10^10×10)^4
> ×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-2
> ×[(10^10×10)^6]^10^-4
> ×[(10^10×10)^8 : 10^3]^10^-6
> ×(10^10×10^3)^10^-8   }  ^2 =
> (10^44.85668513)^2 = 10^2012.122200.
> NOW I explain - step by step - these two "incredible" calculations.
>
> JESUS CHRISTMAS,   THROUGH:
> [(10^5 ×10^100)^1/300]^2 = (10^0.35)^2 = 10^0.122500
>
> 10^5 ×10^100 (in atomic units named Angstrom) is the electric (or
> magnetic) unit 10^5, multiplied by the 10^100 that is the Area of 1
> m^2, in Angstrom^2, to get the electric (or magnetic) Volume 10^105.
> It represents very well, "in transcendental meaning", also the
> Communion Man-God, in its "divine" Volume.

Really 10^5 is the electric flow and the area of 1 m^2 is really that
unitary, big (10^10)^2...
Why are you considering the power of the power? In fact 10^100 is
(10^10)^10.
Is the answer that God is THE POWER, of the power.
Of course if we consider only the flow, and the 10 cycle going from -5
to +5,
we, using the action -5 perceive only the reaction +5.
The ftontal area in this case has its side 10, and its area 100.
If we'll coniser the area 20 it'll be only the sum of the two
components in line,
and not the area. So also considering 10^10 we have to get not the sum
of the
two lines, but the area, and it resuls only by the power of the
power...
Is it so?

> The power 1/300, on (10^5 ×10^100), gets 1/3 of the Trinity xyz of
> this Volume, how it is referred to 1/100 of the Area's power 100
> before introduced, and so we have again a length, in power.
> 0.35^2 is ALL THE QUANTITY of the power 10^-35, that is contained in
> the Area having the side 0.35 long in length.
> Since 10^4 is ALL the reality, and 10^2 is ALL its Area, ALL the flow
> in line is the same 10^2 quantity of the area.
> So the area 0.35^2 = 0.122500 is also the number representing ALL the
> flow in the line of the time, and it inserts Jesus into the world, in
> the Christmas day of the 0 year, 12 (December), 25th.
>
Really it is so, but this way to have the time is so new that it seem
a fantasy.
You are believing that we perceiwe in this perspective way years,
mounths and day?
Dear Romano Amodeo, I have read others to define you a Genius...
we really have only two possibilities: or it is all true one... or you
have a fantasy so big
that you are so stupid you'd believe anything.
I'm inclined to thing you are right, more genius than stupid.
Also here I have nothing to tell in opposition.
Your way has been always the same and really this seem the end
of a run.

> What is possible to tell in opposition? Will have the World this END?
> All is BASED on the year 0 that we today have since Jesus Christ, and
> on the "possible-impossible", "mistake-not mistake" of a Pope !!!
>

And this is really the problem. Jesus was born before his birth.
Why can we consider a beginning from a real mistake?
You have such a fantasy that perhaps have your opinion about this?
May we know it?

Yours sincerely

carrington

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The thing to notice is that till now this date of December 22th was
only in the calendar of Maia.
Now there is a mathematical calculation based on our numbers that
begins by Jesus Christ, and it is strange that the results are the
same.
Is arriving the world's end?

On 16 Lug, 19:18, amoram <ra.amo...@libero.it> wrote:

Georges Metanomski

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--- On Wed, 8/6/08, carrington <bcarri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The thing to notice is that till now this date of December
> 22th was
> only in the calendar of Maia.
> Now there is a mathematical calculation based on our
> numbers that
> begins by Jesus Christ, and it is strange that the results
> are the
> same.
> Is arriving the world's end?

=================
Not yet. following mathematical calculation based on our
numbers it will come when the bottom of idiocy is reached.
Judging by your post we are well advanced, but hope
lingers that further progress is not impossible.
So, what's next?
Georges.
=================



amoram

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Sep 5, 2008, 2:19:10 PM9/5/08
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Very well, my friends!
And now listen.
The Birth of Jesus Christ is thought to be a mistake because Saint
Mattew told of Jesus in Egypt and of events that were before the year
0 in which the Church put his birth.
But you have to consider this thing.
We have TWO different descriptions of the first years of the Jesus
life.
In fact Saint Lucas does not tell of the travel in Egypt, but of Jesus
that, after 8 days, goes in his Templec and receives his circumcision.
Afterwards his family returns to Nazareth and reamins only in that
place.
So we have 2 different possibilities.
If We consider the 3 Kings, the Star, and all the narration of Sain
Mattew, it seems a fairy-tale. The desire of this Apostle counted this
birth introducing in it the precedent events used to carry Divine
Glory on Jesus.
So, those who have Faith in this fairy-tale, afterwards affirm the
mistake introduced in his birth.
We must think that the real <truth> exists only in the Gospel of Saint
Lucas.
He described of Jesus at 12 year, that begins his work as the Son of
His Father...
and so... <1000 and not a new 1000> are the 2000 years that, added to
this beginning of Jesus, makes exactly the year 2012 that we are
speaking about.

In this case, the calculus that I have done doesn't start from a
mistake!

Romano Amodeo

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adrf

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Romano, that's Donald Duck talk.

Some recent research into this Jesus myth esablishes that
1: The Jesus tale resembles a typical saviour myth with motifs also found in other and much
older myths. So even given a Jesus existed the bible asscribed fictional, borrowed motifs to a
person.
2: The availability of new material shows, in the opinion of experts that Jesus never existed.
The actual biblical material was written quite a while, some estimates go to 200 AD, after the
birth of Jesus.
3: I suggest you do some research into "saviour myths".559,000 sites, happy reading. The same
motif is found by Anthropology as cargo cults, where a saviour will come with all required
goodies as also take us away to a safe place. In Ufology this occurs as aliens arriving before
earth global disasters come along and take us to another planet. It does not matter how
advanced those aliens may be, but the sheer mechanics of moving around six billion people would
defeat the best organiser. Just calculate for one instance the volume and weight of a human
body, multply that by 6 billion and then figure what size cargo ships it takes. You cannot pack
humans like sardines either. Six billion cubic feet. Otherwise take note of how many people you
can pack in a passenger ship, so + food, waste disposal, crew, etc NBLikely. It's roughly a
1000 people on a standard ocean liner, which makes 6 million of them, give or take a crunchie.
Otherwise imagine talking humans into moving and moving them into ships. Then how will they
survive on a raw, new planet?
4: Apart from all that the odds on GOD coming to save us are very, very slim. He'it is not the
interventionist type.
5: Apart from all that monism was invented by Abram, who thereby renamed himself Abraham. His
Father was an idol peddler, political jargon for polytheist. And apart from all that in other
research Akhanaton has been identified as Moses, Oedipus and Akhenaton. His Father picking up
on this hebraic strand infiltering Egyptian pharaonic thinking. Even a painting showing this
triple identity has been found. It is only monism that acquired Theology. Polytheistic
religions are not so silly.
6: Whenever I get told "to Listen" I know dogma in action.
7: On top of all that the dying'reborn god motif is a calendric story with four marker
festivals at the equinoxes and solstices, which has two gods,twins, one for summer another for
winter as a cyclic pattern of growth and decay. Xmas is the reborn god.
Having now reached the magical number 7 for completion I'll stop.

adrian

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Dear Adrian, when everyone does his reserch, the Faith moves his
convinction. So there is who is considered a real student of the true
events, and there is who is judged a day-dreamer, a visionary.
I am sure that the apostles, all dead men in order to give evidence to
the Jesus truth, are worthy of the biggest esteem.
So I and you cannot discuss, because our men worthy of the biggest
esteem are different and in contradiction.
Here we do Epistemology, and, through the Philosophy of the science,
each of us make his supposition, with coerency on some fundament, in a
knowledge that - as you show - is based on different knowledges.
I have not the idea to modify your fundament, and you, starting from
it, make your conclusions, and you do well, doing it in coherency...
In the same way I do mine, and are contrary and opposite to your and I
also am in coherency...
I thing that fortunately it is coming the time to know the truth of
Donad Duck Romano Amodeo... or his visionary context.
We must expect only till the October 13th... so only 36 days.
I and you will see what really happens... without the necessity of
students or who gives evidence.
I am sure of the Jesus EXISTENCE because I have him in myself, and
only I can know this.
But I am alsu sure that HIS REAL PRESENCE in me hasn't happened only
for me, but also for you and everyone hasn't Faith in HIS existence.
So you'll have soon a PROOF of what I'm saying: I'll be killed and in
me again Jesus will be killed, with his Father and his Holy Spirit.
So the ARBITER of our impossible discussion - so based on different
Faiths - will be THE REALITY.
It is useless to discuss. I have Faith and confide in my Faith. You
haven't it and dfo differently.
But the EVENTS will confirm my Faith... or not, and this will be the
ARBITER between us.
I'm in the most coherency with my Faith and I haven't fear to be
contradict by it.
So we'll se who has reason and who hasn't.
Certainly for you I'm a visionary Donald Duck. I know it and it is not
necessary that you or other tell it again.
I have the courage of my faith, and we'll see if it is only an
illusion!

Goodby from me... a Donald Duck... but in the powerful hands of my
God, who certainly will help me to win this real challange made with
you.
Romano Amodeo.
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adrf

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Nicely put, thank you,
The problem is that in our well managed, HOhum, society the so called point of view isolates us
from one another, mainly by language. Language names the world as isolate parts, we then make
an effort to stick back together. Contrariwise the aether or plasma, or whatever you'd care to
call it, vritti in Sanscrit, is one coherent whole. It also happens to be the case that
induction leads one, as Karl Popper points out, to proceed by error correction. Deduction, on
the other hand, requires us to deduce from universals and Plato, in the "Meno" dialogue makes
Socrates point out that you cannot prove or teach a universal, only tell somone they are
missing the boat and have not finished thinking things through yet.

All this as preface to suggesting one enquires into opposites or alternatives, paradoxes,
quandaries and all that. IF then one enquires into what it can be given, Jesus never existed.
Who or what then does it all? What you believe in is an image or idea of Jesus, even had
there's been a real one he's dead. You're taught ABOUT Jesus. I've already posted one I
researched long ago showing that the Jesus myth is based on a calendric myth. Also if you go
into the life of the Buddha you'le find the family structure and even the names of his family
are simmilar to those of Jesus. His Mother fi was called Miriam. There's even a wicked uncle
like Judas for Jesus. The Egyptian myth of Isis and Osiris has a wicked uncle Seth, aka a
devil. the West calls hinm Jehosaphat, the wandering jew.

We can feasibly agree that us humans don't make things happen something about the universe
does. "We must assume behind this force [in the atom] the existence of a conscious and
intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." -- Max Planck, accepting the Nobel
Prize for Physics, 1918." That very mind in different cultures has different names and the
attributes the world over are much the same. May I suggest a site called sacred texts, he
collects stuff like that. Just do some reading. May take hours. In Indian Yoga they distinguish
a bhakti from a yogin to a njana. The bhakti takes what goes and gives, accepting it all as
Brahm's doing. The yogin uses rituals to get there and the njana does it intellectually by
reason. In the West they make us believe what we're told. The thing, as you point out is to
have faith. But instead of believing what we're told you can play around with holding a belief
and then changing it. It is not until you have faith in your own power that it works. In Tibet
they have Geshe and Lamas, a Geshe spouts the scriptures and a Lama does miraculous things.

Romano should read about the Mayan Calendar to find out they already used a calculus of cycles.
THE physical end of the world has been announced an untold number of times. It never happens.
It's about the end of a world belief.
I have a passion, even an obsession, with learning which makes me endlessly curious. It is
attended by being uncertain, not believing what I'm told, and more stuff like that. I don't
care what I learn, anything goes. Out of that mishmash of curiosities MY mind makes up coherent
patterns without any effort by me. And what I don't like you doing is to stereotype me as an
unbeliever when I am a non-believer. I USE beliefs to figure things out. I don't swap opinions,
YOU DO. So I am a bit like Socrates here, trying to show people that being curious is far more
fun. I cannot MAKE you do that, teachers and preachers try that. THey do that to innocent and
naive kids who lack any idea about what else is on offer. I can only make suggestions. Funnily
enough my son once wanted to join a Xian sunday school. After three months he came back and
told me 'They're all hypocrites". Yep, I worked in a hospital once and the nutcase ward
contained mostly ministers who'd seen the light, as they say, and done themselves out of a job.
Oh well, one lives and learns.

"""Enlightenment " and "Nirvana"? They are dead trees to fasten a donkey to. The scriptures?
They are bits of paper to wipe mud from your face. The four merits and ten steps? They are
ghosts in their graves. What can these things have to do with you becoming free? --Te-shan

adrian

amoram

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Dear Adrian,

You say well: <The problem is that in our well managed, HOhum, society
the so called point of view isolates us from one another, mainly by
language. Language names the world as isolate parts, we then make
an effort to stick back together….>

I arrived to my conclusion not starting from the Faith, but just from
the Epistemology. I think that the only way that we have is our
intelligence, that must be employed to distinguish the true one from
the false one.
It is possible.
I can only say how I made it.
First of all I put the myself the question:
<How am I seeing the world?>
I answered: <In relative way. It is a dynamic matter>
So I studied the Laws of the Dynamic.
They were 3:
The first was conservative one.
The second introduces the Force, and F=ma says how F/m = a.
The third say the most important thing:
<in every action this is invisible one. It can be perceived only by
what is equal and contrary>.
It was for me as the <enlightenment> of Siddarta Gautama !!!
I understood that all our real perception is only a reaction, that is
the equal and opposite action.
So I understood that all the truth that we see is <a lie>.
If I see the mountain to become bigger it is the <Mohammed’s miracle!>
because I’m going to it, because the mountain doesn’t move itself.
I understood that EVERY dynamic appearance was <a lie>… also the life,
that moves its presence in the time. The truth had to be the opposite
dynamic of the opposite of the matter: of the Soul.
This opposition had to be the opposite movement in the time, since we
perceive to move in the time.
Then I asked to me:
<Is it possible?>
The Physics answers that it is possible, since electrons and positrons
are moving in opposite directions of the space-time.
I understood that magnetism and antimatter are returning from the
future if electricity and matter are going towards it.
I understood that the idea of a time only advancing was the result of
the shape only of the electricity and of the matter. If we’d perceive
not electricity and matter but magnetism and antimatter, we’d perceive
a world going back, in destruction, in its fantastic <replay>.
In that moment I understood the reason of the Bible, about Adam and
Eve.
The apple to not meat was the acceptation of a world in apparent
destruction.
The Absolute was gradually taking away all the determination of the
world to carry everything in the <absolute condition>. To take away
the LIMIT and to give the ABSENCE of all limits was the most possible
good for the men… but Adam thought that if he didn’t take what was
escaping away he lost everything.
The problem is this. Every good, when it is consumed, it arrives to
its end. As material goods, as spiritual ones. If I am too much rich I
loose the sense of this good. But if I don’t eat <my apple>, this
apple remains in my will. So, if I go out of my life not having eat
it, this my WILL it is an IMPRINTING for ever, and I’ll for ever eat
all the apples of the world without any satiety.
The apple must, from <real>, become project of apples, and so all the
life.
And it is what happens if my real life comes back and, from real one,
become <ideal one>.
I had the idea of the Paradise after the death.
I had the convinction to have <destroyed> the death when I understood
that my Spirit had already gone beyond the point of my real death,
since he had gone back from the future to my present time.
I was half resurrected (in my Soul) and half in way to go to die again
(with my body of matter and electricity of my brain)… so I knew the
resurrection of a Jesus in myself and every man.
My Spirit, going back in the past time, is already going toward the
<beginning>… but now I cannot perceive! Now I can perceive only the
opposite action… till to the death. But after, when all my life (this
life) was end, on the base of its <lie> I’d finally see the <true
movement just now in action, but invisible one!>.
If Siddarta had his <enlightenment> of the <half way>… I also! It was
true one because we have to perceive 2 LIFES, one positively and the
second one negatively. The <half way> has the meaning that we have to
do the virtual mediation of the TWO INVERSE experiences… as Thesis and
Antithesis… the perfect system that Philosophy shows as the ideal way
to understand. WE ARE DOING IT!
Consequently, we are understanding THE TRUTH… and it’ll be the
Synthesis as the Paradise.
But not only Gautama had is real reason… also Jesus!
The TRUTH is carried by the Holy Spirit of the DIVINE TRUTH.
This DIVINE TRUTH, is that <transcendent one>, like the invisible
action.
This Truth is sowed to every Spirit, because WE HAVE IT.
We are the absolute essence that has assumed our own cross of the
limit.
And the CROSS of Jesus is a wonderful example of the cross assumed by
the ABSOLUTE in each of us.
Jesus was saying of a Father of all us, and GOD is really the
fundamental Father, like the writer of our story.
In the Jesus Faith this God’s Son should come again in the Glory of
the Father, to destroy the Death and to reveal the Last Judgment…
But I had done both!
I had destroyed the Death and revealed al the travel beyond the death
until to come back in… GOD, our Creator, when our return arrives at
the beginning of the Absolute condition.
In the meanwhile great signs I saw about my life.
If you see this part of my site http://www.yahx.eu/tutortest.html
you’ll see the <miracle> of my life, and you’ll see that I have done
the same life of Jesus, confirming all what the Catholic Church has
told in 2000 years. ALL ALL ALL, the signs are present and ONE is not
lacking!
What I had to do?
To believe in these signs or not?
In Physics I had done IMPOSSIBLE CONQUESTS.
They are so advanced that Physics, not being able to control more of
one step beyond the actual statement, judges that mine is <science
fiction>…
None Philosopher has done a shape of the PERFECTION, as mine, because
in my Idea God is perfect one in his creation. He made good and evil,
but not TO DO them both, but to vanish, and to destroy the real and
determination and carry them in the absolute condition.
Defined ALL THE POSSIBLE, God has put in action the return to the UNIT
of everything. He has assumed every <character> to give it life and
essence. But the aim is that every Soul of God must chose what a GOD
is necessary in every situation. The Justice cannot be not
differentiated. If I have had NOTHING by God, I have reason to not
believe in a God! And also this Judgement needs to allow that GOD is
the GENERAL SOLUTION of every human case, being the IDEAL SOLUTION of
every possible case.
It is like the music. If GOD is the music, God allow who don’t love it
and chose the silence. But without the silence the real music cannot
exist! It is impossible to go against God. Till who loves the silence
has his function and his aim.
In our world, the bad man… don’t exist. The bed <characters> exist,
but the Soul is of God, like in a theatre. A <bad character> can
detested but not the actor that must animate it. We must love who
tries to kill us, because his soul is of God and he is interpreting a
part already written by Another (God).
I can have this courage, because he cannot kill me if it is not
written in my destiny.
When the Bible tells of the People of God, obliged to do what the
Pharaoh will, I see that it is our actual condition of slaves of God.
But in the Bible this People goes towards his Promised Land… and again
it is true one! We are going towards our freedom, when we’ll be out of
the actual determination and in the absolute condition… of a God’s
heir.
In few word, dear friend, I have controlled all the truth… in my same
life.
But you have reason to say that the situation of Jesus and others are
almost equal. God speaks always in the same way. Also to me he speaks
in this way… but more advanced of Jesus the Son.
My intelligence carried me at the understanding of HIS FATHER.
For example, while Jesus forgives the sins… I destroy all them. With
the TRUTH.
It is that ONE ALONE is the Creator. We aren’t! Our <character> is
decided by God, and all the sins of us are part of the <story> written
only by God and regarding our own safety.
While every Son (Jesus too) in this our BOOK, is in a wrestling
regarding good and evil, and Jesus against Satan, this is under the
dominion of God, that uses the EVIL to have the GOOD, Satan to carry
to God.
I think that ALL THE FAITHS come from God. The absolute is in a real
relation with every human CULTURE, and every has had FOD as who had
given it.
Not only Jesus has had his group, but every group must have one only
GOD.
I have had as many signs in all my live to arrive to believe that this
FATHER of all the men and all the Faiths is MY GENERAL MANEGER.
For this simple reason:
I cannot be able to say all the TRUTH that I tell. It is a TRUTH
impossible to a man, to every men! It cannot be mine! I am not so
intelligent, so clever…I am full of limits. I am a SINNER!
But I am also full of desire to give my life for the good of the life
of everyone! And a lot of signs show to me that the next October 13th
God accepts my desire, and I’ll die full of all my desire to save the
world.
I know well that now I am only slave of my destiny and that
everything depends only on God. So, if God accept my desire he can do
it.
Once, always in the Bible, David and Goliath were one against the
other. I am just like the first: a poor man without power and Goliath
is the INTELLIGENCE of the world, the FORCE of the STRONG MEN. I
cannot do what I desire… but God is the MASTER.
So I hope in my God… the God Father of Jesus, Buddah, Mohammed… etc.
etc… and we’ll see what finally happens.
I pry you: let you read http://ww.yahx.eu/tutortest.html and
afterwards say to me if you, in my same situation, should think in a
different way or in my same!

Goodbye
Romano

amoram

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Sep 7, 2008, 6:31:44 PM9/7/08
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Sorry Adrian!
This is the just site http://www.yahx.eu/ordinespiritosanto/tutortest.html


On 8 Set, 00:06, amoram <ra.amo...@libero.it> wrote:
> Dear Adrian,
>

adrf

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Sep 7, 2008, 7:25:06 PM9/7/08
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If you can figure that out by yourself, You can think and experience for yourself, which is
what it is all about. Having your thinking done by others imports problems you never asked for,
haha. You don't need a guide and you can help yourself.
READ Genesis, you're dealing with an angry, punitive God. None of that for indian gods.
Yes, if you need Physics approval, then it's yes. He does not personify it as a god, but a mind
and sentience of which we all partake. Images are not the real thing.

"""We must assume behind this force [in the atom] the existence of a conscious and intelligent
mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." Max Planck, accepting the Nobel Prize for
Physics, 1918. According to this kind of talk we now live in an anywhere centred universe,
called holographic.

You just got waylaid and stopped in a pursuit and enquiry which goes deeper and takes effort
and time. As of right now our freedom to choose for ourself is opening up. And Jeepers, once
more I never used the pronoun "I" as Einseele falsely accused me of in the sense he ascribed to it.
>>>> winter as a cyclic pattern of growth and decay. Xmas is the reborn god..

adrf

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Sep 7, 2008, 7:46:15 PM9/7/08
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Then he is doing your thinking for you, eh? IF, that is, you go along with that.

adrian

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