Re: [epistemology 13346] Digest for epistemology@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

[Michael Atovigba]

Israel, Sir,
Owing to spirit attribute of God who is everywhere, I think we should
take God equals 0.
Proof:
just take any arbitrary point in the globe and move in all infinite
directions as a vector.
The sum of magnitudes of all infinite vectors in the universe equals zero.
Take the abstract vector to stand for any attribute of nature and
there lies the proof.
Just a thought sir.
Mike Atovigba.

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> From: socratus sadovnik <isoc...@gmail.com>
> Date: Feb 18 08:31PM -0800
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> * God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. /*
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> Can the conception of God and Soul have Physical Background?
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> My answer is: "Yes, God and Soul have physical background
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> and can be explained by physical formulas, equations and laws."
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> I will try to prove my position.
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> =.
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> Question: what is God?
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> The Religious answer:
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> God is something Absolute, Infinite, Eternal, Spiritual,
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> the Highest form of Consciousness, Who created everything
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> in the Universe.
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> The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete:
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> There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is
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> Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K,
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> that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe.
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> Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the Universe.
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> Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World.
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> How can I prove my opinion?
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> 1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself.
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> 2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual
> Particles.
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> 3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light.
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> Quantum of Light is most phenomenal particle in the World.
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> Quantum of Light is the structural essence of the Material World.
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> The essence of all material objects is Quantum of Light.
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> Through the behavior of Quantum of Light we can understand
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> what an Absolute God has the Highest form of Consciousness.
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> ==========..
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> a)
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> In the Vacuum Quantum of Light has maximal speed : c=1
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> (from our earthly- gravity point of view).
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> No material particles can ever attain this velocity. It means that this
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> constant characteristic brings quantum of light to the world which
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> is different from Material World and this is Vacuum World of Spirits.
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> b)
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> Many kinds of so-called different particles (waves) are only different
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> manifestation / modifications of Quantum of Light.
>
> How can I prove this opinion?
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> It seems that different particles create different waves:
> EM-waves, Gamma-Radiation waves, Röntgen-Radiation waves,
> Light-Waves, Ultraviolet -waves, Super/Ultra-High-TV-waves,
> Short/Mid/Long wave- length Radio Emission waves . . . but . .
>
> . . . but the energy of each of them is written by formula: E=h*f.
>
> It means that the difference between all these particles / radiations
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> depends only on frequencies and the background of these modifications
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> is one and the same particle: Quantum of Light in different frequencies.
>
> c)
>
> Question:
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> Why the simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
> +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
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> E=h*f and e^2=ah*c,
> E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞ ?
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> My answer:
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> Because an electron and quantum of light / photon and antielectron
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> are one and the same particle in different actions and conditions and
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> " The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass "
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> unites them together.
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> d)
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> The Quantum of Light is not static / firm particle.
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> Quantum of Light is an elastic particle and can change its geometrical
> form.
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> e)
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> Through so-called "vacuum fluctuation / transformation" Quantum of Light
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> can materialize or dematerialize its body ( virtual particle can become
> real
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> and vice versa) using its own inner impulse h or h*=h/2pi.
>
> (Newtonian physics explains movement as a result of outside influence,
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> Quantum physics explains movement as a result of own inner power / impulse
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> of particle and therefore Quantum physics is only a modern Aristotle's
> metaphysics)
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> f)
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> 1. The potential state of Quantum of Light in the Zero Vacuum is: E=Mc^2.
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> 2. In the straight constant movement its speed is c=1 and its energy is:
> E=hc
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> Quantum of Light behaves like a "particle".
>
> 3. In the rotation around its axis Quantum of Light behaves like "wave"
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> with energy: E=h*f. In the Zero Vacuum nobody has influence on
>
> behavior of Quantum of Light. Quantum of Light by himself decided
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> in which state He wants to be, it means that Quantum of Light has some
>
> kind of consciousness. The consciousness of Quantum of Light can evolve.
>
> Quantum of Light takes part in creation atom, cell, flower, . . . etc . .
>
> . and
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> in creation every living being. And Its evolution of consciousness is
> going
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> step by step (from atom, cell, flower . . . to living being ) according to
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> ancient
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> Vedas conception: ‘ from vague wish up to a clear thought ’
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> g)
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> Now . . . . . if . . . .
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> If Quantum of Light have some kind of consciousness which can evolve
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> and the Absolute Zero T=0K gave the birth to this Spiritual Particles . .
>
> . .
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> then . . . . then it means that the T=0K have an Absolute the Highest form
> of Consciousness.
>
> =====================…
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> P.S.
>
> The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
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> equations using the Quantum Theory will be never ended.
>
> a)
>
> Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?
> <https://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigquestionsonline.com%2Fcontent%2Fdoes-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNHEF1v62M7-5nGBk2oivvY7Mq1Dyg&sig2=OHYAG-yHfH-4inM1QtCqEg>
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> https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/content/does-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god
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> b)
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> Does Quantum Physics Prove God's Existence?
> <http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphysics.about.com%2Fod%2Fphysicsmyths%2Ff%2FQuantumGod.htm&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNHe2WxZXMRYXPFvgfncy94ZQBhwQA&sig2=WGCkLl5JrbOi4qi5MyAiWw>
> http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyths/f/QuantumGod.htm
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> c)
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> Does quantum theory prove God exists?
> <http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CIoBEBYwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asktheatheists.com%2Fquestions%2F1339-does-quantum-theory-prove-god-exists%2F&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNFtz0-bsYFZoBdhGKTNRu2MWyQqPA&sig2=F5wzfFIz14bNRQihBYnFuQ>
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> http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions/1339-does-quantum-theory-prove-god-exists/
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> #
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> In 1954 Einstein wrote:
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> " All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
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> no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
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> Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
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> but he is mistaken.'‘
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> #
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> In 1987 *Feynman wrote:*
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> *‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,*
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> * we have no knowledge of what energy is.*
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> * We do not have a picture that energy comes in little*
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> * blobs of a definite amount. ‘ *
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> ================ . . .
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> My concussions:
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> We don't accepted Absolute Reference Frame T=0K and therefore
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> we don't know what Quantum of Light and Electron are and therefore
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> every speculation is possible. I say:
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> 1) God is simple: T=0K
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> 2) Soul is simple: Quantum of Light
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> ( c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, h=E/t, h=kb,
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> h=1, c=1. h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* , e^i(pi)= -1)
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> 3) Everything else (material) is complex.
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> ========================….
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> #
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> ‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
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> of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
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> state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
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> / Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208, by Danah Zohar. /
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> =============== . . .
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> Best wishes.
>
> Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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[awori achoka]

If 0 denotes the beginning....(if there was a beginning at all) and since we do not know, who God is...and if zero also represents our not knowing...you could be right.

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