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Rizwan Reza

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Sep 11, 2008, 10:00:54 AM9/11/08
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I got the ActiveRecord Envycast and man, you guys rock!!! Content
wise, it was top notch too. Never really thought such solutions to the
told problems. Way to go!

I have Gregg's presentation on Testing, which is great btw. I would
really like to see a complete RSpec workflow screencast with advanced
topics and mocks setup. These things never make sense to me. Although,
I use RSpec, but the specs are cluttered.

What are the future topics you wish to cover after ActiveRecord?

Rizwan

Gregg Pollack

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Sep 11, 2008, 2:11:09 PM9/11/08
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Thanks Rizwan, glad you liked the cast!

Good idea about RSpec Workflow, people could use a "best practices"
type presentation on RSpec, most definitely.

As far as the future casts..

1. Part 2 of the Advanced ActiveRecord cast - Jason is working on this.
2. Scaling Ruby
3. Scaling Rails

-Gregg

Rizwan Reza

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Sep 12, 2008, 10:08:16 AM9/12/08
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You have two envycasts on scaling ruby and rails because...

Rails can't scale! :)

Ricardo S Yasuda

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Sep 12, 2008, 10:13:29 AM9/12/08
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> Rails can't scale! :)

I really thought Jason was going to say that in the first screencast :)


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Hydra David

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Sep 13, 2008, 3:45:09 PM9/13/08
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Now, now, disbelievers. Scaling _efficiently_ and just scaling at all
are two separate things. Rails scales very well... Horizontally. That
is, the more Mongrels (or whatever container you're using) you can
turn on, the more instances you can serve, and this is not a malady
particular to Rails, either. Some of you may be familiar with the
concept of Java "applets", which are small, coherent applications that
run under a master application environment, called Tomcat, that
suffers from a similar affliction. Once a Tomcat container fills up,
you need another Tomcat container in order to add more applets. How do
_they_ handle scaling, I'd like to ask, and how can that be applied to
Rails?

The main reason that Rails is derided as "non-scaling" is that it
doesn't do so as efficiently as other frameworks, which can rely upon
Apache for memory management instead, which makes them "better" at
scaling automatically, since Apache can do so for them. I'm interested
to see if Gregg and Jason will be benchmarking Apache+mod_rails vs
Mongrels in that screencast or taking another approach altogether.
Should be interesting. :D

Hydra David AKA Da...@OrlandoPHP.org (that's right, the PHP guy)

PS: Much love to my RoR peeps!

Jason Seifer

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Sep 13, 2008, 5:17:47 PM9/13/08
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Rails can't scale, though :)

Sent from my iPhone

Max Schubert

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Sep 13, 2008, 6:59:21 PM9/13/08
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Not can't, doesn't, Get it right!

Rich

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Sep 27, 2008, 6:19:45 AM9/27/08
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Any chance the scaling episodes could include Amazon Web Services?

Great work btw

-Rich

On Sep 11, 2:11 pm, "Gregg Pollack" <greggpoll...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rizwan, glad you liked the cast!
>
> Good idea about RSpec Workflow, people could use a "best practices"
> type presentation on RSpec, most definitely.
>
> As far as the future casts..
>
> 1. Part 2 of the Advanced ActiveRecord cast - Jason is working on this.
> 2. Scaling Ruby
> 3. Scaling Rails
>
> -Gregg
>
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