Where is Beighton?

[Steve Hayes]

Is Beighton in Yorkshire or in Derbyshire?

How do you know which is which?


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[Ron Taylor]

On 3/26/2018 20:04, Steve Hayes wrote:
> Is Beighton in Yorkshire or in Derbyshire?
>
> How do you know which is which?
>
>

Nobody can answer that question without context. If Census or Church
Records it is pretty straightforward.

It can be: a District in Sheffield, Yorkshire, a village in Norfolk or
Beighton Fields in Derbyshire.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <dtcjbdpi4jmkhgub6...@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes

<haye...@telkomsa.net> writes:
>Is Beighton in Yorkshire or in Derbyshire?
>
>How do you know which is which?
>
>

I just put it into Wikipedia, and apparently there's Beighton Ward, part
of Sheffield (presumably your Yorkshire one?); Beighton, a village in
Norfolk; and Beighton Fields, a village in Derbyshire. (It first brought
up Beighton Ward, finding the others when I followed the disambiguation
link.)

I generally find putting a placename into Wikipedia usually finds it
(and lots about it!); however small the village, _somebody_ has probably
written a Wiki entry for it.
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[Chris Pitt Lewis]

On 27/03/2018 04:35, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <dtcjbdpi4jmkhgub6...@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes
> <haye...@telkomsa.net> writes:
>> Is Beighton in Yorkshire or in Derbyshire?
>>
>> How do you know which is which?
>>
>>
> I just put it into Wikipedia, and apparently there's Beighton Ward, part
> of Sheffield (presumably your Yorkshire one?); Beighton, a village in
> Norfolk; and Beighton Fields, a village in Derbyshire. (It first brought
> up Beighton Ward, finding the others when I followed the disambiguation
> link.)
>
> I generally find putting a placename into Wikipedia usually finds it
> (and lots about it!); however small the village, _somebody_ has probably
> written a Wiki entry for it.

Beighton was historically a parish in Derbyshire, but was incorporated
into the then County Borough of Sheffield, and therefore transferred to
the West Riding of Yorkshire, in 1967 (as the Wikipedia article on
Beighton Ward says), and to South Yorkshire in 1974.

However, from the 1830s it was in Rotherham Poor Law Union (and thus
Registration District) which was otherwise in Yorkshire. The parish
registers are in Sheffield Archives.

I have done some research on an Ellis family, mostly Quakers, who were
in Beighton in the 18th century.

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[Steve Hayes]

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:36:23 +0100, Chris Pitt Lewis
<ch...@cjpl.co.uk> wrote:

>Beighton was historically a parish in Derbyshire, but was incorporated
>into the then County Borough of Sheffield, and therefore transferred to
>the West Riding of Yorkshire, in 1967 (as the Wikipedia article on
>Beighton Ward says), and to South Yorkshire in 1974.

So ut's the same geographical place, within different boundfaries for
administrative purposes?

I read a Wikipedia and GenUKI article that left me with the impression
that there were two - one a parish in Derbyshire and the other across
the river in Yorkshire.

I have several people wgho were baptised there in the 19th century,
where it is definitely in Derbyshire, but the census records are much
more ambiguous. I think I'll describe it as in Derbyshire for the
pre-1911 records anyway.

[Chris Pitt Lewis]

On 27/03/2018 18:28, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:36:23 +0100, Chris Pitt Lewis
> <ch...@cjpl.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Beighton was historically a parish in Derbyshire, but was incorporated
>> into the then County Borough of Sheffield, and therefore transferred to
>> the West Riding of Yorkshire, in 1967 (as the Wikipedia article on
>> Beighton Ward says), and to South Yorkshire in 1974.
>
> So ut's the same geographical place, within different boundfaries for
> administrative purposes?
>

That is my clear understanding. But I suppose I should add the
disclaimer that I have not visited the area and am answering this from
what I find online and on my bookshelf.

> I read a Wikipedia and GenUKI article that left me with the impression
> that there were two - one a parish in Derbyshire and the other across
> the river in Yorkshire.
>

I think that is wrong. The only second place is "Beighton Fields" which
seems to be a tiny place further south, in the parish of Barlborough,
also in Derbyshire, and is not the same as the parish and village of
Beighton.

> I have several people wgho were baptised there in the 19th century,
> where it is definitely in Derbyshire, but the census records are much
> more ambiguous. I think I'll describe it as in Derbyshire for the
> pre-1911 records anyway.
>

The Registrar General, who ran the census, used the concept of
"registration counties", which did not necessarily have the same
boundaries as the counties used for other administrative purposes. From
1837 to 1895 (according to GENUKI) Beighton was in Rotherham
registration district, so would be in the "registration county" of
Yorkshire. In 1895 it was moved to Chesterfield RD in the registration
county of Derbyshire. Is part of the ambiguity that you find it listed
with Yorkshire in 1841-1891 census, and Derbyshire in 1901 and 1911?