What is the state of Green Button

[Mike G]

I'm a bit discouraged at the short list of utilities that have in some manner offered green button to their customers. I've been researching this for a few weeks now, and it seems like the ecosystem was somewhat active in 2012 and into earlt 2013, but very little since that time. Several of the sites and resources referenced from the greenbuttondata.org site (as well as NIST and others) show no activity in 18 months or more. Are my observations inaccurate? What is the current state of Green Button? 

[John Teeter]

Most of the activity in the last 18 months has been directly focused on Connect My Data and that focus is just now resulting in deployments (4Q2014 -> 2015); your  observations may have overlooked those efforts?  

john

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Mike G <mganl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm a bit discouraged at the short list of utilities that have in some manner offered green button to their customers. I've been researching this for a few weeks now, and it seems like the ecosystem was somewhat active in 2012 and into earlt 2013, but very little since that time. Several of the sites and resources referenced from the greenbuttondata.org site (as well as NIST and others) show no activity in 18 months or more. Are my observations inaccurate? What is the current state of Green Button? 

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[Mike G]

Yes, indeed.  I came across a bit harsh.  I'm sure a lot of folks have there heads down working hard.   

I understand some utilities are engaging via Connect My Data (CMD) with third parties.  I have been looking for recent stories & announcements.   Probably the best example I've found was PG&E (and most well known I'm sure)

http://www.pge.com/myhome/addservices/moreservices/greenbutton/

Can you share a few utilities that are already using CMD with some third parties?

And, is strict opt-in approval for CMD a requirement?  

[John Teeter]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Mike G <mganl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, indeed.  I came across a bit harsh.  I'm sure a lot of folks have there heads down working hard.   

I understand some utilities are engaging via Connect My Data (CMD) with third parties.  I have been looking for recent stories & announcements.   Probably the best example I've found was PG&E (and most well known I'm sure)

http://www.pge.com/myhome/addservices/moreservices/greenbutton/

Pepco is providing CMD data feeds now. PG&E, SCE, and SDG&E have had betas running for quite some time and are now updating their deployments to full CMD on all customer accounts. In Ontario, London Hydro and Hydro One are bringing up their CMD  

 

Can you share a few utilities that are already using CMD with some third parties?

Pepco is providing CMD data feeds now. PG&E, SCE, and SDG&E have had betas running for quite some time and are now updating their deployments to full CMD on all customer accounts. In Ontario, London Hydro and Hydro One are bringing up their CMD infrastructures. I believe 2015 will see the most CMD activity.  There is an updated ESPI schema to work with also, so the DMD deployments (currently reaching @60M utility accounts), is also being upgraded. 

And, is strict opt-in approval for CMD a requirement?

More importantly all CMD third parties are/must be consumer authorized (Using OAuth2). It's not really an opt-in thing b/c there are multiple third parties to choose from. 

 

[Mike G]

>> There is an updated ESPI schema to work also [...]

Is this the current best schema?  Derived for the sample java code base I assume.

https://github.com/energyos/OpenESPI-Common-java/blob/master/etc/espiDerived.xsd

The main site is down right now by the way:  http://www.greenbuttondata.org/  

[Mike G]

Site is back up, and the "Green Button Documents Library" now links to the xsd "espiDerived.xsd" below. 

[Teeter, John]

From: Mike G <mganl...@gmail.com>

>> There is an updated ESPI schema to work also [...]

Is this the current best schema?  Derived for the sample java code base I assume.

https://github.com/energyos/OpenESPI-Common-java/blob/master/etc/espiDerived.xsd

This is definitely the schema to use. It is derived from the V1.0 ESPI Standard schema and will be presented back to NAESB for inclusion in the next version of the standard. We have worked this way to maintain maximum flexibility in the CMD effort as implementations come alive. The java code base is kept current with both the espiDerived.xsd and the green button implementation guide. 

John