Nanocrystalline caution
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It seems overunity is completely down at the moment, but I wanted to
caution people working with nanocrystalline material. No, there are no
deadly ultrasonic waves. :-) This is absolutely incredible magnetic
material.
I am not ready to release any details until the experiments are
complete and everything is verified, but I have a circuit as designed
in accordance to my MCE theory that pumps a small amount of current
into the core and within a few microseconds there is an incredible 900
AMP pulse *entering* the battery, as in charging the battery. That
couldn't be healthy for the battery, or the poor human that disconnects
or connects such a lead. I do not know what would happen if the battery
lead was disconnected and/or reconnected during operation.
Also after running the experiment for about one second I could easily
smell ionized air. I have not verified if the core is ionizing the air.
Being a person of extreme caution I always cover my Metglas cores. :-)
Very interesting. The project is still on coarse targeted for early
2007.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
eldarion
experiment before the entire project is complete and the "smoking gun"
is released, or will we have to wait?
I would love to "sink my teeth" into a project like this. Will an
amorphous material such as Metglas work as well, or does it have to be
nanocrystalline?
Thanks, and good experimenting!
Eldarion
MeggerMan
900 Amps, yikes that is one hell of a current, you would need a
caterpillar battery to create that kind of current.
What voltage are you seeing?
For example, if you had 12V @ 1Amp supply you could translate that to
0.013V @ 900A.
How are you measuring your current?
What frequency are you using?
Is this from the small toroidal rings you ordered?
One point to note, to get 900 amps through a cable you would need a
very thick copper cable, so how is this possible?
I look forward to your next message.
2007 is going to be the year for over-unity projects (Steorn,
'SuperMag' engine, Lutec etc) and of course the MEG.
Just to keep you updated:
I have just received my latest order of parts today (rotary switch,
capacitors, pots, connecting wire etc) which will enable me to start
building the MEG pulse generator over the xmas break.
I have completed the mosfet add-on to the TL494 which I plan to test
today.
I will then carry out a quick test on the Metglas C core to see if
anything happens.
Regards
Rob
Paul
Hi Eldarion,
The nanocrystalline material I'm using is Metglas. Metglas cores are
nanocrystalline and amorphous. :-) May I ask what Metglas core you
ordered? Metglas makes numerous nanocrystalline core materials -->
http://metglas.com/products/page5_1_2.htm
Naudin used the 2605SA1. I am presently researching the 2714AF and
would love to release all the data and circuits when the research is
complete. Here's an outline of the research project -->
AVALANCHE NOISE AS A SOURCE OF "FREE ENERGY."
Verify that the measurable RF radiation escaping ultra thin magnetic
cores due to avalanche is *not always* dependent upon input energy. To
understand how and where the "free energy" comes from we need to
analyze magnetic material on the atomic scale. Most of the magnetic
field in such magnetic material comes from the intrinsic electron spin,
not the orbiting electrons. IBM has performed a great deal of atomic
scale tests that reveals the entire atom actually rotates during a
magnetic flip. To simplify the process we can consider the entire atom
a small PM (Permanent Magnet). To understand where the energy comes
from simply take two PM's and forcibly rotate the PM's so they are
either sideways or opposing each other. Now suddenly allow the PM's to
rotate. You will notice the PM's will snap into alignment. That is a
process of converting PE (Potential Energy) into KE (Kinetic Energy).
Within a non-saturated magnetic core at room temperature there exists a
certain percentage of unaligned atoms. Most of these atoms are in the
domain walls. That is potential energy-- hence MCE. That is "free
energy" in a nutshell. Unfortunately the process is very complex.
Below is an outline of key factors -->
* At room temperature atoms are violently vibrating. This is called
ambient temperature.
* Ambient temperature is capable of breaking the atomic magnetic
alignments. This normally cools the magnetic material-- MCE.
* Ambient temperature has no rotational preference. IOW, the average
rotational force on the magnetic atoms is equal in both rotational
directions.
* Energy is released when an avalanche occurs-- many atoms flipping /
rotating. This normally heats the magnetic material-- MCE. One atom
could be rotating clockwise. Since ambient temperature on average does
not have a preferential rotational direction this means a lot of the
avalanche energy is free and not absorbed by ambient temperature. Of
course, under normal circumstances such magnetic material is great at
absorbing avalanche energy. Nano eddy current bursts occur in
electrically conductive materials such as iron and Metglas. This
greatly lowers the overall avalanche frequencies, which means the
material cannot absorb the radiation so easily. Unfortunately most of
the energy goes into the nano eddy current bursts. :-( On the other
hand, non-electrically conductive magnetic materials such as Magnetite
do not have much nano eddy current bursts, which is why the atoms flip
at incredible rates, in the nano and pico second range. Unfortunately
materials, especially magnetic materials, easily absorb such high
frequency radiation.
ROOM TEMPERATURE MAGNETOCALORIC EFFECT
Verify that magnetic materials possess MCE (Magnetocaloric Effect) at
room temperature.
MAGNETIC MOMENTUM
Verify an effect in magnetic materials that I term "magnetic momentum."
Such magnetic momentum was the cause of the 900 Amp pulse. It is very
real and can be dangerous in such nanocrystalline magnetic cores. BTW,
the 900 amp pulse was *entering* the battery! IOW, it was adding
energy to the battery.
COMPUTER SIMULATION OF MAGNETIC MATERIAL ON THE ATOMIC SCALE
Complete the long awaited and incomplete computer simulation of
magnetic material on the atomic scale. Last year I attempted to write a
computer program to fully simulate magnetic material on the atomic
scale. Everything was complete, less ambient temperature. Unfortunately
I did not add the ambient temperature code because a typical simulation
would have taken roughly one year. IOW, simulating magnetic material
on the atomic scale is far too time consuming. Although, lately I
thought of a work around. Presently I am working on the computer
simulation of magnetic material on the atomic scale. So far so good--
knock on wood! Last night I actually witnessed the simulation of
antiferromagnetic material. The first simulation was under extreme
cold conditions. The cold condition allowed the magnetic material to
exhibit antiferromagnetism. I then added ambient temperature and the
antiferromagnetism diminished! What a wonderful sight!!! Here is a
quote from WikiPedia, "Generally, antiferromagnetic materials exhibit
antiferromagnetism at a low temperature" I can hardly wait to
simulation ferromagnetic material at a certain temperature and witness
actual domains form!
The purpose of the computer simulation software is -->
1. To quickly improve the designs so that a cheap and common magnetic
core can generate kilowatts of "free energy."
2. To help satisfy the conventional science community when the Smoking
Gun is released. If the science community can quickly understand and
accept how and where the "free energy" comes from then it will greatly
help spread the word. Especially after the Steorn situation the major
Media will probably never touch another "free energy" claim without the
backing of the science community.
3. Sorry, but I just cannot stand stabbing in the dark. If such a
simulation computer program can succeed, then it will become the
greatest "free energy" tool ever.
4. I am really getting tired of trying to simulate the complex magnetic
avalanche processes. The computer will clarify any flaws in my mental
simulations and will reveal wonders that otherwise could only be
discovered by accident. :)
THE SMOKING GUN :-)))
Build a machine that extracts enough energy from ambient temperature
(vibrating atoms in the air and Earth) to keep it self running due to
friction in addition to supplying appreciable amount of extra usable
electrical energy as an output source. The goal is to build a cheap
circuit capable of turning a cheap, common, and redily available
magnetic core into a "free energy" machine.
I understand a lot of people in this industry like to spend a great
deal of time on the forums posting every single thing they achieve.
IMHO this wastes a great deal of time and they are publishing
incomplete research. For those deep minded thinking individuals who
have a deep fundamental understanding on magnetic material on the
atomic scale could contribute with the research. All other people could
greatly help by replicating Naudin's MEGv2.1. According to Naudin's
scope shots his MEGv2.1 generated "free energy." If you post your
replication details here I could you fine tune the machine to generate
"free energy."
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Paul
Are you the one replicating the MEG? I think you post as king1s or
something like that on OU. Can't verify this since OU has been down
for sometime.
To answer a few questions -->
I went through a wide range of experiments, each using a different
circuit, so I'll just refer to one of the set ups since they widely
vary. Some generated up to 900 amps on the secondary coil. The 900 amps
was going *in* the battery caused by my 2714AF Metglas cores magnetic
momentum. :-) This 900 amp pulse was from the secondary coil. The
current pulse was measured across a 0.1 ohm resistor on an
oscilloscope. The 0.1 R was connected to the batteries ground and the
secondary coil. The scope ground was connected to the batteries ground,
but that would not matter since everything including the circuit was
using a battery and the scope was on the housing ground. I always like
to place my scope on its own ground. IOW, I could place the scopes
ground any place on the circuit and it would not short out anything
since the ground of all the chips go to the battery, not the scopes
ground. :-) The measured voltage across the 0.1 ohm resistor was 92
volts. I = V / R. 92 V / 0.1 ohms = 920 amps.
As for the voltage across the secondary ... I am still too afraid to
directly measure it. I could use to R's, a small & large R, to safely
measure the voltage, but I did not do it since it was not required to
complete the test. The only purpose of this experiment was to measure
the magnetic momentum. So I was merely focusing on the current entering
and leaving the battery.
The 900 amp peek was a *pulse* from the secondary coil, but the overall
signal was more complex. The peek 900 amp pulse lasted one usec. The
input (primary) pulse was 4 usec, but considerably lower current. The
primary current peaked at 5 amps. The battery was 7.5 volts. During one
of the setups that generated 900 amps the secondary had 100 turns and
the primary had 1 turn. So there was up to 7.5 volts on the primary,
and obviously 750 volts on the secondary. Although due to
inefficiencies such as cross capacitance there would be less *measured*
voltage across the secondary. So in a nutshell, the primary peek pulse
went up to 5 amps for 4 useconds. During this period the secondary was
an open circuit and only a very small amount of current leaked through.
In 4 usec the primary circuit opened so no current flowed. At this time
the secondary closed, which the cores magnetic momentum caused a 900
amp pulse that lasted roughly 1 usec. I say "roughly" because it's a
pulse, not a square wave and this pulse decayed for several
milliseconds, but the main pulse roughly lasted 1 usec. So the primary
drained up to 5 amps for 4 usec and the secondary charged the battery
at 900 amps for 1 usec. Now that does not mean "free energy" by any
means. First of all a NiCd battery is not very efficient at 900 amps,
especially a 1 usec pulse, LOL. Although, as stated, the soul purpose
of this experiment was to verify what I call "magnetic momentum."
How's the Naudin replication going? Have you replicated Naudins scope
shots yet? Also, what strength PM's are you using. I believe one of
the most sensitive components could be the actual PM strength.
Has OU been down for you the last day?
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
eldarion
Thank you for your reply! I ordered two of the AMCC 4 C cores from
http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_2_1.asp
They are made of Alloy 2605SA1, whose technical specs can be found
here:
http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_4.htm
Since Naudin used the 2605SA1 alloy as well, I guess I could start
replicating the MEGv2.1. Now I just need the cores to come in the
mail... :-)
I would be happy to post details and results as I build the MEG. I am
sorry, but I do not have much understanding of magnetic materials on an
atomic scale; just a general idea of what is going on.
Thanks again!
Eldarion
Paul
>
> They are made of Alloy 2605SA1, whose technical specs can be found
> here:http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_4.htm
>
> Since Naudin used the 2605SA1 alloy as well, I guess I could start
> replicating the MEGv2.1. Now I just need the cores to come in the
> mail... :-)
>
> I would be happy to post details and results as I build the MEG. I am
> sorry, but I do not have much understanding of magnetic materials on an
> atomic scale; just a general idea of what is going on.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Eldarion
Eldarion,
Sounds great. I look forward to seeing your progress. Google is
working on their beta google groups, which allows you to easily create
html pages using a nice gui where you can add images, etc. It's
already working, but still in beta, as they have to test it and still
complete some features. Here's the link -->
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/energymover
When you get some scope shots perhaps you could create a page by
clicking on the "+ add new" button under "Pages" in the above beta
link. I created a test page containing two images, including an
animated oscilloscope -->
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/energymover/web/test
The only problem I see is if the textarea is ~ over 20K characters the
gui's a little slow. I sent google a bug report.
Also I hope Rob creates a page of his MEG project.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
eldarion
Just have to wait for the cores...arrgh! :-)
Eldarion
MeggerMan
The fact that OU is down may be a blessing in disguise, I tend to get
distracted very easy by what people are doing on there.
Yes I am the same person on the OU forum doing the MEG 2.1 replication.
I think the magnets are ceramic 8.
The cross sectional area and depth of the magnet stack determine the
flux density at the faces.
I can probably adjust the flux density slightly by insulating the outer
blocks instead of the central block in the stack.
http://emagnetsuk.com/index.asp?function=DISPLAYCAT&catid=66
See section on ferrite.
Hi Eldarion,
Thats a tiny core, for your core centre I think you need two magnets
5mm x 15mm x 8mm, thats if you can find them, but you could get them
cut but thats expensive. Various places will sell standard sizes, it
may be possible to cut your own if you have a diamond tile cutter.
How much did it cost you?
Are you based in the US?
Fed Ex delivered mine and I must say they are A1 - very efficient.
How are you getting on with your pulse circuit?
I can give you as much help as I can as I am building the same device,
so we can both compare results.
You will need to scale down all of your components including wire sizes
(but not number of turns).
You can still use the same pulse circuit but the ideal frequency will
most likely be a lot higher, say 120kHz instead of 33kHz.
If this works out then I will ordering a couple of AMC-1000 cores, the
biggest they do.
Regards
Rob
eldarion
because I was able to order them as a free sample. I have very little
cash available at this time, so I wanted to be absolutely sure that
this type of core would work before I invested $400 or so in two of the
the AMC 1000 cores. (I might actually wait for the 'smoking gun' to be
released before I make that purchase, depending on how things go with
the MEG. The last thing I would want would be to purchase these cores,
only to find that the 'smoking gun' needs a different alloy, therefore
requiring another $400 purchase!)
I have some 6.35mm x 6.35mm Neodymium magnet cubes I could probably
use, or would Neodymium magnets be too powerful?
Yes, I am based in the US.
Thanks for your offer to help! I will probably need it...
Eldarion
eldarion
I was reading on the MEG site and elsewhere that it requires a specific
kind of load to operate with overunity characteristics.
Is there any way to have the MEG operate with those characteristics,
but do so while charging up a capacitor instead of wasting the power in
a load?
I know this might fall into the still-secret category, but I thought I
may as well try :-)
Thanks!
Eldarion
softwa...@yahoo.com
Hi Eldarion,
Naudin uses a conditioned carbon resistor, which he describes how to
create. I'm not aware of the exact characteristics of such a resistor,
but Naudin's scope shots show the resistance changes. If I am
correctly simulating the MCE theory in my head then this could make a
huge difference, as you do not want the secondary to always draw power.
I mentioned Naudin's conditioned R's to Rob, but not sure if he's going
to use them in the initial phase.
Naudin uses high voltage spikes to create such resistors. One
possibility is this conditioning changes the resistors breakdown
voltage characteristics.
I'm doing my own thing by using transistors to turn the current on and
off at the appropriate time. So I don't really need any conditioned
R's. Hopefully the appropriate circuit will allow cheap and common
cores to work as a legit "free energy" device.
As for using Neo magnets, that would be in interesting test, but
initially it sounds far too strong for your Metglas material.
Personally I would use a ceramic PM for two reasons. 1. Neo's are so
strong that I'd hate to see what would happen if they slipped out of
your fingers into the Metglas. Metglas cores will easily shatter. Also
I think Naudin used ceramics in the MEG 2.1.
I've success used a dremel drill with a sand disk to slowly cut many
ceramic and Neo magnets. Neo's. Ceramics take about a half hour. Neo's
take forever. If you rush it then the magnet can chip or it can heat up
and thereby lose a lot of its magnetization.
Regards,
Paul
eldarion
Thanks for the reply!
So the idea would be for the load to only draw power after the driver
circuit's pulse has dropped back to zero? (So that the load is
isolated from the driver?) And, if I understand properly, this is what
Naudin's resistor does, as the resistor decreases resistance as the
voltage increases?
It is good to know that I can cut the ceramics to the right size. I
had been wondering if I could use my Dremel or not.
Thanks!
Eldarion
MeggerMan
Yes, I had not thought of using a dremel disk to cut a ceramic magnet,
only slight snag is the cutting depth of the disk itself.
I do not like the idea of a conditioned resistor and I would rather use
a pulsed MOSFET to gather the output power. The thing is how do you
know at what point to draw off the power.
You could use the initial pulse coupled to a delay circuit and pulse
width select, perhaps using 2 x 555 timers in mono stable mode, one for
the delay time (adjustable) and one for the pulse width.
Therefore you can say whether you want the pulse to start during the
initial pulse or after and how long you want to draw power from the
coil.
This should enable you to cover all the options.
My only concern is that although you will not stop the flux from
switching now and hence keep the input current down, it may
delay/prevent/slow the field collapsing when the pulse goes off.
There may be a balance to strike between the input/output pulse timing
to get the best output to input and on top of all that you have to find
the resonant frequency of the whole device.
The resonant frequency may then change depending on your output pulse
timing too, so it may take a lot of careful adjustment to find the
golden peak.
Paul, from what I understand the output will not be over-unity if you
connect a standard load to the output - it must be a conditional load.
Did JLN find any over-unity with a standard load:
i.e. a FBR, a capacitor and bulb.
Regards
Rob
Paul
I would agree the conditioned R sounds bad, but there might be some
unknown effect. It might eventually be worth a try just to see how it
compares with say a transistor. Naudin shows a picture of a Xenon tube
and also what looks like a fluorescent bulb. The resistance of these
bulbs definitely change with voltage. Other possibilities could a high
voltage zener or avalanche diode. Another possibility could be a ultra
high frequency small transformer to lower the output voltage and then
connect a bunch of LED's in series, unless you want to place ~800 LED's
in series. As you both known LED resistance also changes with voltage.
The only problem with using these type of loads is the resistance
characteristics are somewhat fixed whereas a transistor load is
variable.
Perhaps a good compromise would be to use a high resistance load,
perhaps 100 Kohms in parallel with a transistor. Also perhaps a
somewhat small load could be in series with the transistor.
This is getting exciting IMHO, as I can hardly wait to see the
different outcomes. For now I'm still working on the computer
simulation of magnetic material on the atomic scale and look forward to
begin the real Smoking Gun experiments, but as far as I can tell
Naudin's MEG v2.1 is a "free energy" device.
Eldarion,
You probably know, but if you're interested here's the link on how to
make Naudin's conditioned resistor:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/negres.htm
Regards,
Paul
Paul
>
> Thank you for your reply! I ordered two of the AMCC 4 C cores fromhttp://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_2_1.asp
>
> They are made of Alloy 2605SA1, whose technical specs can be found
> here:http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_4.htm
>
> Since Naudin used the 2605SA1 alloy as well, I guess I could start
> replicating the MEGv2.1. Now I just need the cores to come in the
> mail... :-)
>
> I would be happy to post details and results as I build the MEG. I am
> sorry, but I do not have much understanding of magnetic materials on an
> atomic scale; just a general idea of what is going on.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Eldarion
Does anyone know where I can buy a Finemet FT-3L core? Here's the pdf
datasheet :
http://www.manz-electronic.de/index/download/FINEMETmaterials.pdf
Now I am not certain, but I really think this is the holy grail of
"free energy" magnetic cores. Several months ago someone from OU
contacted me and said they would try and get some FT-3L samples, but
never heard if they succeeded. So samples seem to be out of the
question. Rob, do you have a web site or email address of the place
you purchased your Metglas core? Maybe they sell Finemet cores, more
specifically the FT-3L.
Thanks,
Paul
MeggerMan
Elna Magnetics (place I got the AMC-320 from) have 3 types of Finemet
cores on offer:
http://www.elnamagnetics.com/index.php?page=inventory&shouldsearch=y&searchfield=&search=Search&how=all&where=part&group=HMG&line=FINEMET
F1AH0432 FINEMET TOROID Call Call EA
F1AH0433 FINEMET TOROID Call Call EA
FT-3KM K1208A
Not sure if the FT-3KM might be it.
Regards
Rob
Paul
> Hi Paul,
> Elna Magnetics (place I got the AMC-320 from) have 3 types of Finemet
> F1AH0432 FINEMET TOROID Call Call EA
> F1AH0433 FINEMET TOROID Call Call EA
> FT-3KM K1208A
>
> Not sure if the FT-3KM might be it.
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the info. I looked into all those materials and it seems
the FT-3KM is better than our Metglas cores. Although it's still not
as good as the FT-3L material.
I sent them an email requesting the FT-3L. I wonder how much a small
FT-3KM cores is.
Thanks,
Paul
Paul
For anyone who's interested a person is selling a AMCC 200 sent me a
PM. I'll find out the price and their location, but hopefully it's a
good deal. I believe a new AMCC 320 costs $107.
Regards,
Paul