Select to expand quoteWoohoo said..
From 25 October, Navionics yearly subscription will go from $38.99 to more than double that (can't remember exactly! the new price).
You can go into your account and buy multiple subscriptions which just roll over each year. I've bought five! Maybe I'll be dead by then haha
Thanks for that sounds like a very good idea. Just jumped on the boating app on my tablet and can't seem to see how to purchase future subscriptions What is it under?
Also the card for my plotter does appear when I log on to my account via a laptop in navionics.com but I can't see how to renew it past it's current expiry in 165 days and furthermore my subscription to the app doesn't appear at all.
Ok Update-to answer my own question I went into Playstore and updated the Boating App even though the Boating App had been updated recently with regards to its maps. After doing so my account on the Navionics.com website showed both my chart ploter card and the Boating App with an option to renew the boating app for US24.99 even though it is not due until April next year.
I have now done this and paid with PayPal and a cost of AU AU41.41 although it would not allow me to put anything but a Canadian or US billing address. I therefore put my street address and postcode in Australia and my area as US/ Armed Forces Pacific. At least it worked because the app is now saying renewal is required in 530 days.
What a frigging run around.
Select to expand quoteTrek said..
OpenCPN avoids that problem. Here www.openCPN.org.
$60 for East Coast of Australia Charts and no subscriptions. And you can get the GPS streaming data from your Trek.
Thanks for that but I'm lazy and use the automatic feature on Navionics to plot a point to point course avoiding all hazards and then analyse each segment before sailing just to make sure.
If I were to use open CPN presumably I would have to analyze the whole course first and then set my own waypoints as there would be no automatic feature. Is that correct?
Possibly yes.
The way I use it is click the way points sequentially along the route I want to go with mouse. ie first then next then the next. OpenCPN as I use then calculates total distance, estimated ETA, saves it as a route etc.
Because its "open source" features are added to it all the time. But I didn't see an automatic way point plotter - ie place destination and it places all the way points by itself.
Select to expand quoteTrek said..
Possibly yes.
The way I use it is click the way points sequentially along the route I want to go with mouse. ie first then next then the next. OpenCPN as I use then calculates total distance, estimated ETA, saves it as a route etc.
Because its "open source" features are added to it all the time. But I didn't see an automatic way point plotter - ie place destination and it places all the way points by itself.
Thanks. Bought three years of Navionics by adding yet another today whilst walking a friend through same processes. Price must go up 25th US time/date.
Since I have been somewhat advocating Navionics Au&NZ (iPhone, iPad, Android) in different topics, I just want to bring to your attention that I recently discovered Navionics are implementing a significant price rise for the subscription.
I wrote to Navionics ... asking if this was a teething error as part of transitioning licence entitlements as I did not use the HD version. Yesterday I received a one page reply about HOW GREAT THE UPGRADE WAS .... we now all get HD (I don't need it), we can all use it across all devices (I could before), how much better its going to be supporting only one product ( I only ever used one) ....
I explained how surprisingly none of the benefits applied to me - they all benefited Navionics greatly - especially the 250% increase ! ...and how it's disappointing that Navionics feel they have such a dominant position and a captive market that they can blatantly gouge as they are doing here.
Yep I noticed that as well and read on fb forums of the price hike. I too messaged them and their reply was that feedback they had received was that all their many products were too confusing for users so it's been all consolidated into one package. Unfortunately us mobile users will see a price hike but other subscription users will see a reduction in their costs.
Even more $$$ for the platinum version, but this is a one off purchase on a memory card to suit the plotter. You normally get 12 months free updates but in all honesty I've never updated mine even in this period.
1) Navionics sells Charts (Gold, Platinum etc) that you insert into your GPS. As I understand it these charts are yours to use for the life of the memory card and will work with the data they have on them. You can pay to upgrade these charts (get the latest version of the charts), and in some cases you can also subscribe - for some additional online services (updates, waypoint storage etc). If you don't subscribe, you keep running with the maps that you have previously paid for or upgraded to.
2) Navionics also sells Apps that run on mobile devices. In the past (2012) these apps were sold One TIme Charge for a region (Au&NZ) ... and you could pretty well run with that as if it was a chart system like above. Sometimes they provided free updates, and fee Upgrades to the app/maps. Then about 3 years ago, they shifted to a Subscription model. You get the App (free) but you rent the regional map by Subscribing for a year. During that year you get all the chart updates enhancements etc. If you don't Subscribe to a region - the App provides very very dumb basic cartography until you subscribe.
Garmin announced a new line of cartography products featuring the best of Navionics and Garmin content at the Fort Lauderdale International Boat Show. The new products include BlueChart g3 / BlueChart g3 Vision cartography for Europe and North America, and new LakeV g3 / LakeV g3 Ultra lake maps for the U.S. and Canada. They will be available for purchase on accessory cards and via download for existing customers. In the U.S. and Canada, the new charts will also be preloaded on the new Garmin GPSMAP 8600/8600 xsv series multifunction displays.
I guess its great for the Europe, US and Canada guys .... not a lot of mention of Asia Pacific or Oceania in there at all. I guess I just have to figure out how to get my old Haines across the big blue pond so I can get value from these enhancements and the annual $34.99 going forward!
Thanks @Fishop sometimes a bit of extra detail showed up from the Sonarchart updates.... but that was part of the original product... I still have not seen anything that comes close to justifying the 250% price hike.
Garmin may be the reason the price is going up for Navionics but I got to say I'm liking Garmin at the moment. I believe some of the cost is the additional data Navionics will get from Garmin. or at least that's what a salesman told me lol
Garmin's charts of Port Hacking look pretty good when compared to my Navionics on my tablet. Garmin has a free (as of now anyway) way to share actual soundings to others to keep the maps very up to date. So if I use my sounder over a particular area in the bay I can upload the bottom readings to keep the maps very current. Kinda like free updates
You can connect a sounder and continuously improve your charts. If you also enable community edits, your sonar readings are uploaded to Navionics and combined/verified with other peoples readings to produce the next base charts - a process of continuous refinement.
Inavx works great. (inshore work). Zoom, scroll and chart selection are good. Range and bearing are ok. Ais by web is good. I use two iPads, one for GCaptain, I mean backup. 8 hrs on batts and a waterproof (They say) case. Not certifiable ala Rosepoint, but great backup.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;91407]Last voyage a crewmember had an Ipad loaded with iNavX software and Navionics charts. He had world-wide chart coverage. The cost of the software was about $50, the charts were a total of $500.
There has been 3 times this year when Navionics became the only useful electronic navigation device available during a maneuver. Once, when unexpectedly whited out on a dead Navy ship shift, Navionics on my IPhone along with the magnetic compass was the only way we knew where we were going in a very tight quarters situation.
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