Eplan Connection Numbering

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Jul 21, 2024, 11:10:44 AM7/21/24
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You have opened a project. You have opened the Settings: Connection numbering dialog, for example via the Options > Settings > Projects > "Project name" > Connections > Connection numbering menu items. You have selected a user-defined scheme in the dialog Settings: Connection numbering and have selected the Designation tab. You have selected an entry in the Format groups field and clicked (Edit), or you have clicked (New).

Select a format element of the type "Counter" in the Available format elements list of the dialog Connection numbering: Formats dialog and move it to the Selected format elements list by using the arrow button.

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Based on the last count number on the page, the count numbers are reserved up to the next multiple of the spare value entered. On the next page the counter numbers begin with the correspondingly increased value. Thus, the spare value determines the maximum number of reserved count numbers.

Here you define the minimum number of characters to be used for the property value. Longer values are displayed in their full length. Only positive numeric values are permitted. A value of zero means that the field width is variable.

The value is padded with this character if the minimum number of digits is larger than the width of the value. A padding character cannot be entered for a variable number of digits (entry of "0" in the Minimum number of digits field).

If this check box is selected, connections between two components are numbered in the order they appear in the schematic instead of the order in which they are specified under Direction. Connections between different components having the same identifying DT, but no displayed DT, are also taken into account. This thus affects components receiving an identical DT via DT adoption.

If this check box is selected, the counter starts again with the start value if the page or a structure identifier, for example, has changed. From [Settings], open the Settings: Counter reset range dialog where you define the criteria for resetting the counter. This allows you, for example, to begin with the start value respective per page or per plant. Resetting the counter only makes sense if the connection designations would otherwise not be the same (for example differ in their page number or the structure identifier for the plant). In order to differentiate between connections that would otherwise have the same name use a subcounter.

Select this check box to define a subcounter. The settings available for the subcounter depend on this setting. The subcounter ensures that connections that would otherwise have the same designation can differ.

For a counter - if no counter reset range is specified - only the first counter in the project is suppressed. If the Reset per structure / page check box is additionally activated for a counter, the first counter is suppressed each time a criterion is fulfilled for the reset (e.g. per page or per plant).

The setup is different for wire numbering by connected component, and is not yet documented because it is still being changed and improved. But in a nut shell, when you want to number the wire by connected component, the numbering format is not assign to the net class, but rather to a property of the component's connection point the connection is connected to. So in a way, it's the connected component that numbers the wire that connects to it.

Awesome! Yes, that's basically how it works. That said, the query to define is a bit tricky because the starting point of the query is the connected port of the component, and not the connection or the net associated to it. So it is sort of counter intuitive.

Glad this worked out, but looking at the numbering format value you have defined it in the first post, you should add an order number query in there somewhere. Otherwsie in the rare but possible event when the connected component has 2 pins carrying the same name, SkyCAD will attempt to assign twice the same wire number to two different wires. That'll pop an error. Add '' at the end, make sure to check 'Empty first value', and add a dot in the 'Order number prefix'. This will give you the same result, except it will add '.1' to the second wire. As an example, let's say your disconnect has two pins numbered '3', by mistake. The first wire connected to one of the pin will be numbered 'Q0082-3', and the second one 'Q0082-3.1'.

Yes. Just add somewhere in your numbering fomat value. That said, this will work only if the connected connection already carries a number. So in some cases, you may need to run renumbering of wire twice to see the 'L' appear in the number.

To know exactly what is going on, we'll need to have your full environment. This tutorial about backing up your SkyCAD environment folder will indicate which folder we would need you to ZIP and attach to a forum reply.

I've worked out the issue. I didn't have connection points shown, so I was assigning the rule by exploring the text of the connection point, rather than the point itself. It correctly assigned the wire numbers, but wouldn't save. When I show connection points, and assign the rule here, it saves correctly! This should work nicely.

Glad you worked it out. Accessing the properties by double-clicking the connection point text allowed you to reach the component's connection port instead of the symbol's connection point. (We understand this can be misleading...) This allow to number by connected component only when a certain part-number is assigned, while entering the setting in the symbol's connection point will number by connected component for any part-number used with this symbol.

However, I have connections going to another page via an OPR, then connected to another device, by a connection connected to a connection, see screenshot, and that seems to be breaking it. It works if its still on the same page though.

Sorry about the hassle with getting this to work. But as we mentionned, this wire numbering by connected components feature is not finished, and used by only a few users. So there is still some fine tuning required (obviously!)

We have identified a few bugs with this feature, which we were fortunately able to fix right away and thus place a new install package on our server. We invite you to download and install it. (A simpe install on top of your existing one will suffice; no need to unsinstall anything.)

One thing though, even with the fixed version, you will need to make sure the property 'Number connection web' is checked if you wish to have numbering by connected component work with connections that connect more than two components together (which seems to be your case.)

If you get the desired result and you always want that behaviour when you use power supply, let us know and we'll give you instructions so you don't have to do it manually each time you use that power supply.

Ex. If I have a Terminal Blocks name -X1 and I have 5 terminals on this strip. I need the wire number to match the terminal example; -X1.1, -the wire connected to terminal 1 and so on....
For terminals it will be slightly different, as you would need a separate numbering format for that, and use it in the connection point instead of the connection port.

Please upload a zip of your Standard Environment folder. This tutorial about backing up your environment folder will indicate exactly which folder we are talking about. (Note: only you and the SkyCAD staff will have access to your environment. All other users won't even be able to see the file.).

How to create a symbol of a terminal block with non-feed through and working like the Blue terminal?
No. By their nature, the blue terminals cannot be non-flow-through.
If you want non-flow-through terminals, you must use the grey terminal symbols.

I did the settings and removed the de-select from Follow through.... but some components are working and on the terminal block that I already set with non-follow through it does not work as shown in the picture.

I noticed that for some reason the Feed Through is not working. Attached you have the Project that I am working on it, and you can check on Page 10. All the terminals are set with NO feed through and after I did the wire renumbering the wire number pass through to the other side. I check inside the Numbering Format, and all of them are with the de-select of feed through.

Automated features such as device and wire numbering remove mistakes caused during manual workflows. Not forgetting the auto-generation of reports such as BOMs, connection lists and wire markers ensuring that the data passed to production is accurate and reliable. These automated workflows promote faster engineering processes with data you can trust.

Cable schedules and BOMs are completed manually in traditional CAD software packages and can take days to generate. This process is time consuming which often results in errors, and usually consists of a combination of DWGs and other file formats.

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