EMU 1616 Cardbus on Laptop with openSuse 11.3 - KDE4.5
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I just succeded with compiling Emutrix on my laptop with an EMU 1616
Cardbus under openSuse 11.3 - KDE4.5
To compile on openSuse 11.3, I first had to install QT4 devel package.
Libasound.dev is not to be found in the Suse repos.
But the Alsa devel package will do the job.
On openSuse there's no qmake-qt4, so you need to make a link to qmake
with this name.
Compiling goes without problems at this point .
After starting Emutrix, it could not see the emu 1010 card.
Downloading the svn files did solve that problem.
Emutrix starts up, but I do not get any sound yet from the Dock.
I will have to get a bit more used to the program and see what will
work.
Below some results when running the program.
Installing as SU with the command 'Install' after make does not work.
"Nothing to do for Install"
Some buttons let the program crash , e.g. the Master input and output
buttons.
I will test the program further and let you know
Best regards,
Ellio Martina
PS. Would be fine if Emu/Creative donates some source code from their
Patchmix DSPmixer to port to Linux
Result of the crash in terminal:
---------------------------
emutrix: src/soundcard.cc:142: void SoundCard::writeValue(const
QString&): Controletest 'elements.contains(el)' fails.
Terminated
This is what I read in the terminal at program startup:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Starting emutrix ...
Setting up UI...
Checking soundcards...
Found soundcard # 0 : HDA NVidia
Found soundcard # 1 : E-mu 1010 Notebook [MAEM8950]
Selecting card # 1
Opening card...
Loading card elements...
87 elements loaded. Setting start defaults...;
Stereo faders "Master Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "PCM Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Synth Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Synth Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Line Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Line Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "CD Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "CD Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Mic Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Mic Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Aux Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Aux Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "IEC958 Optical Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "IEC958 Optical Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Analog Mix Capture Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "Analog Mix Playback Volume" to 0
Stereo faders "PCM Center Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "PCM Front Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "PCM LFE Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "PCM Side Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "PCM Surround Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "PCM Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "Front Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "Surround Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "Center Playback Volume" to 100
Stereo faders "LFE Playback Volume" to 100
Registering callbacks with ALSA
Clock rate changed.
"DSP 0 Capture Enum" routing to -3
No routing callback for element "DSP 0 Capture Enum"
"DSP 1 Capture Enum" routing to
-4
No routing callback for element "DSP 1 Capture
Enum"
"DSP 10 Capture Enum" routing to
-5
No routing callback for element "DSP 10 Capture
Enum"
"DSP 11 Capture Enum" routing to
-6
No routing callback for element "DSP 11 Capture
Enum"
"DSP 12 Capture Enum" routing to
-2
No routing callback for element "DSP 12 Capture Enum"
"DSP 13 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 13 Capture Enum"
"DSP 14 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 14 Capture Enum"
"DSP 15 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 15 Capture Enum"
"DSP 2 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 2 Capture Enum"
"DSP 3 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 3 Capture Enum"
"DSP 4 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 4 Capture Enum"
"DSP 5 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 5 Capture Enum"
"DSP 6 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 6 Capture Enum"
"DSP 7 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 7 Capture Enum"
"DSP 8 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 8 Capture Enum"
"DSP 9 Capture Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "DSP 9 Capture Enum"
"DSP A Capture Enum" routing to -24
"DSP B Capture Enum" routing to -25
"DSP C Capture Enum" routing to -33
"DSP D Capture Enum" routing to -34
"DSP E Capture Enum" routing to -33
"DSP F Capture Enum" routing to -34
"Dock ADAT 0 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 0 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 1 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 1 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 2 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 2 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 3 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 3 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 4 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 4 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 5 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 5 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 6 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 6 Playback Enum"
"Dock ADAT 7 Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Dock ADAT 7 Playback Enum"
"Dock DAC1 Left Playback Enum" routing to -23
"Dock DAC1 Right Playback Enum" routing to -24
"Dock DAC2 Left Playback Enum" routing to -25
"Dock DAC2 Right Playback Enum" routing to -26
"Dock DAC3 Left Playback Enum" routing to -27
"Dock DAC3 Right Playback Enum" routing to -28
"Dock SPDIF Left Playback Enum" routing to -2
"Dock SPDIF Right Playback Enum" routing to -2
"Mana DAC Left Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Mana DAC Left Playback Enum"
"Mana DAC Right Playback Enum" routing to -2
No routing callback for element "Mana DAC Right Playback Enum"
Camilo Polymeris
> Hi Camilo,
>
> I just succeded with compiling Emutrix on my laptop with an EMU 1616
> Cardbus under openSuse 11.3 - KDE4.5
>
Hello Ellio and thanks a lot for your feedback.
> To compile on openSuse 11.3, I first had to install QT4 devel package.
> Libasound.dev is not to be found in the Suse repos.
> But the Alsa devel package will do the job.
> On openSuse there's no qmake-qt4, so you need to make a link to qmake
> with this name.
>
> Compiling goes without problems at this point .
>
Glad that works, this is the first time I use Qt for a project, and
see that there are a lot of potential (and actual) problems.
Would you mind adding this info to the wiki, maybe the InstallGuide
page? I'll add a link to this post in the meanwhile.
> [...]
>
> Some buttons let the program crash , e.g. the Master input and output
> buttons.
>
> I will test the program further and let you know
>
Well, thanks a lot. Right now my development PC (with the E-mu card)
is broken, so I can't really make any changes, but I will add any
thing you find to the list of bugs to be fixed ASAP.
> Best regards,
>
> Ellio Martina
>
> PS. Would be fine if Emu/Creative donates some source code from their
> Patchmix DSPmixer to port to Linux
>
Mmm. Mostly, it would be interesting to see what firmware they use.
For emutrix I'am just using the default firmware that ships with ALSA.
Potentially, it would be possible to do much more with a custom
firmware, in a much more elegant way. (On-card mixing, routing,
effects, etc.)
A lot more work and time figuring out the internals of the card,
though. This project started mostly as a hack, so I really hadn't
considered it. Maybe for emutrix 2?
> "DSP 0 Capture Enum" routing to -3
> No routing callback for element "DSP 0 Capture Enum"
[...]
> "DSP A Capture Enum" routing to -24
> "DSP B Capture Enum" routing to -25
[...]
> "Mana DAC Left Playback Enum" routing to -2
> No routing callback for element "Mana DAC Left Playback Enum"
> "Mana DAC Right Playback Enum" routing to -2
> No routing callback for element "Mana DAC Right Playback Enum"
Weird... Some mixer elements are either not present or don't react as
expected. And where does this Mana element come from?
Maybe it's a cardbus thing. AFAIK noone has tested cardbus yet.
Could you post the output of 'amixer controls'?
Thanks again,
Camilo
Ellio Martina
The output of "amixer controls" only outputs the laptop's internal
HDA soundchip controls, which is set as card0.
When opening KMix, I see all the EMU 1010 connections.
If I go to the KDE System settings>Multimedia, Phonon reflects only
a few soundcard connections, probably Audigy type, such as
"Front and Rear speakers" which certainly are not on a EMU1616 card.
I use this card on Win Vista with Cubase, and PatchmixDSP does not
show
these connections
Btw, I also had some doubt about the soundutilities, such as Phonon
and Pulse,
being an extra layer between the Card+Alsa for configuring the
soundcard.
The fact that Phonon entries are different from the KMix ones may be
the cause
of not being able to get the EMU1616 working.
When looking at the settings in openSuse's yast2, the Emu is a 'non
configered' card.
Trying to edit the settings in yast is impossible since it requires to
stop all sound,
wnich results in Phonon to pop-up asking if it can forget about all
card entries.
The strange thing here is that Phonon now does list all the EMU1010
available in KMix.
I find this very confusing for analizing where to look for solutions.
Nevertheless I keep on searching to get it working, and as soon I have
found usefull info
and get the emu1010 show up with 'amixer controls' command, I let you
know.
Best regards,
Ellio
Camilo Polymeris
<gui...@elliomartina.com> wrote:
> Hi Camilo,
>
> The output of "amixer controls" only outputs the laptop's internal
> HDA soundchip controls, which is set as card0.
Try passing the -c option to amixer to select a different card:
'amixer -c 1 controls' or similar.
>
> When opening KMix, I see all the EMU 1010 connections.
> If I go to the KDE System settings>Multimedia, Phonon reflects only
> a few soundcard connections, probably Audigy type, such as
> "Front and Rear speakers" which certainly are not on a EMU1616 card.
>
I have no experience with Phonon, but, yes, probably it selects the
on-board card as default. My own PC has an onboard soundcard, I
disabled it in BIOS. Not an option if you want to use that card, of
course.
Then again, Phonon could label the Emu ports in any way. I know
pulseaudio does. Even the firmware that ships with ALSA has some
inconsistencies (IMHO) about this.
> I use this card on Win Vista with Cubase, and PatchmixDSP does not
> show
> these connections
>
The interesting thing about the Emu cards is that they have an FPGA
(or is it ASIC?), a chip that can route an process inputs and outputs
in hardware in many different ways, so the connections aren't really
fixed, it's more of a convention.
> Btw, I also had some doubt about the soundutilities, such as Phonon
> and Pulse,
> being an extra layer between the Card+Alsa for configuring the
> soundcard.
Yeah, the linux audio soundscape has gotten really complicated. You'll
probably want to add jack to the mixer later. Layer upon layer of
sound servers.
> The fact that Phonon entries are different from the KMix ones may be
> the cause
> of not being able to get the EMU1616 working.
Maybe phonon is using pulseaudio? To test your sound try using simple
applications like aplay and arecord that talk directly to alsa. Some
GUI apps (eg. VLC) also allow selecting ALSA in/out.
> When looking at the settings in openSuse's yast2, the Emu is a 'non
> configered' card.
> Trying to edit the settings in yast is impossible since it requires to
> stop all sound,
> wnich results in Phonon to pop-up asking if it can forget about all
> card entries.
> The strange thing here is that Phonon now does list all the EMU1010
> available in KMix.
> I find this very confusing for analizing where to look for solutions.
>
Yes, I understand. I would try disabling the built-in card, if
possible, to focus solely on the Emu card first.
BTW, it seems those "Mana" mixer elements really are cardbus-specific,
which means emutrix won't work with your card yet, at least not as
expected.
> Nevertheless I keep on searching to get it working, and as soon I have
> found usefull info
> and get the emu1010 show up with 'amixer controls' command, I let you
> know.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ellio
>
Best of luck,
Camilo
Ellio Martina
"amixer controls -c 1" did work
Was not aware of these command options,but logical.
Without -c Number it defaults to card 0, never too old to learn;)
Here is the result, which I sorted by numid.
There are 2 entries for "Mana"
I guess that these must be the Left and Right channels for the
headphone output on the
cardbus card, since this is different from the PCI card that has the
SPDIF in/out and ADAT in/out
not present on the cardbus version. (are there different numid's for
the PCI/PCIe??)
ellio@travelbass:~> amixer controls -c 1
numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Front Playback Volume'
numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Surround Playback Volume'
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Side Playback Volume'
numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Center Playback Volume'
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='PCM LFE Playback Volume'
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Volume'
numid=8,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Capture Volume'
numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Synth Playback
Volume'
numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Synth Capture
Volume'
numid=10,iface=MIXER,name='EMU Capture Volume'
numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Playback Volume'
numid=12,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Capture Volume'
numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='CD Playback Volume'
numid=14,iface=MIXER,name='CD Capture Volume'
numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Optical Playback Volume'
numid=16,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Optical Capture Volume'
numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Volume'
numid=18,iface=MIXER,name='Line Capture Volume'
numid=19,iface=MIXER,name='Analog Mix Playback Volume'
numid=20,iface=MIXER,name='Analog Mix Capture Volume'
numid=21,iface=MIXER,name='Aux Playback Volume'
numid=22,iface=MIXER,name='Aux Capture Volume'
numid=23,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Volume'
numid=24,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume'
numid=25,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback
Volume'
numid=26,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback
Volume'
numid=27,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Volume'
numid=28,iface=MIXER,name='Tone Control - Bass'
numid=29,iface=MIXER,name='Tone Control - Treble'
numid=30,iface=MIXER,name='Tone Control - Switch'
numid=31,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
numid=32,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Optical Raw Playback Switch'
numid=33,iface=PCM,name='Captured FX8010 Outputs',device=2
--------------- separation line added by me for readability
----------------
numid=178,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Mask'
numid=179,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Mask',index=1
numid=180,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Mask',index=2
numid=181,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Default'
numid=182,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Default',index=1
numid=183,iface=PCM,name='IEC958 Playback Default',index=2
numid=184,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC1 Left Playback Enum'
numid=185,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC1 Right Playback Enum'
numid=186,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC2 Left Playback Enum'
numid=187,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC2 Right Playback Enum'
numid=188,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC3 Left Playback Enum'
numid=189,iface=MIXER,name='Dock DAC3 Right Playback Enum'
numid=190,iface=MIXER,name='Dock SPDIF Left Playback Enum'
numid=191,iface=MIXER,name='Dock SPDIF Right Playback Enum'
numid=192,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 0 Playback Enum'
numid=193,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 1 Playback Enum'
numid=194,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 2 Playback Enum'
numid=195,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 3 Playback Enum'
numid=196,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 4 Playback Enum'
numid=197,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 5 Playback Enum'
numid=198,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 6 Playback Enum'
numid=199,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 7 Playback Enum'
--------------- separation line added by me - The Mana's
----------------
numid=200,iface=MIXER,name='Mana DAC Left Playback Enum'
numid=201,iface=MIXER,name='Mana DAC Right Playback Enum'
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
numid=202,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 0 Capture
Enum'
numid=203,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 1 Capture
Enum'
numid=204,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 2 Capture Enum'
numid=205,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 3 Capture Enum'
numid=206,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 4 Capture Enum'
numid=207,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 5 Capture Enum'
numid=208,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 6 Capture Enum'
numid=209,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 7 Capture Enum'
numid=210,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 8 Capture Enum'
numid=211,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 9 Capture Enum'
numid=212,iface=MIXER,name='DSP A Capture Enum'
numid=213,iface=MIXER,name='DSP B Capture Enum'
numid=214,iface=MIXER,name='DSP C Capture Enum'
numid=215,iface=MIXER,name='DSP D Capture Enum'
numid=216,iface=MIXER,name='DSP E Capture Enum'
numid=217,iface=MIXER,name='DSP F Capture Enum'
numid=218,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 10 Capture
Enum'
numid=219,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 11 Capture Enum'
numid=220,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 12 Capture Enum'
numid=221,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 13 Capture Enum'
numid=222,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 14 Capture Enum'
numid=223,iface=MIXER,name='DSP 15 Capture Enum'
numid=224,iface=MIXER,name='ADC1 14dB PAD Audio Dock Capture Switch'
numid=225,iface=MIXER,name='ADC2 14dB PAD Audio Dock Capture Switch'
numid=229,iface=MIXER,name='Clock Internal Rate'
numid=226,iface=MIXER,name='DAC1 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
numid=227,iface=MIXER,name='DAC2 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
numid=228,iface=MIXER,name='DAC3 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
Best regards,
Ellio
Camilo Polymeris
<gui...@elliomartina.com> wrote:
> Hi Camilo,
>
> "amixer controls -c 1" did work
> Was not aware of these command options,but logical.
> Without -c Number it defaults to card 0, never too old to learn;)
>
> Here is the result, which I sorted by numid.
> There are 2 entries for "Mana"
> I guess that these must be the Left and Right channels for the
> headphone output on the
> cardbus card, since this is different from the PCI card that has the
> SPDIF in/out and ADAT in/out
> not present on the cardbus version. (are there different numid's for
> the PCI/PCIe??)
>
> ellio@travelbass:~> amixer controls -c 1
Ok. There are several differences:
> numid=190,iface=MIXER,name='Dock SPDIF Left Playback Enum'
> numid=191,iface=MIXER,name='Dock SPDIF Right Playback Enum'
> numid=192,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 0 Playback Enum'
> [...]
> numid=199,iface=MIXER,name='Dock ADAT 7 Playback Enum'
In the PCI version the above are named "1010 ADAT" (even though the
ADAT connector may be on the Dock) and there is a "1010 SPDIF" element
in addition to "Dock SPDIF".
> --------------- separation line added by me - The Mana's
> numid=200,iface=MIXER,name='Mana DAC Left Playback Enum'
> numid=201,iface=MIXER,name='Mana DAC Right Playback Enum'
Like you say, these *could* be Phone outputs. On the PCI version there
is are elements labeled "Dock Phones Left Playback Enum" or similar,
missing in your setup.
Could you try changing the value of that enum to see what changes? E.g
using alsamixer?
> numid=224,iface=MIXER,name='ADC1 14dB PAD Audio Dock Capture Switch'
> numid=225,iface=MIXER,name='ADC2 14dB PAD Audio Dock Capture Switch'
> numid=226,iface=MIXER,name='DAC1 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
> numid=227,iface=MIXER,name='DAC2 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
> numid=228,iface=MIXER,name='DAC3 Audio Dock 14dB PAD Playback Switch'
Some PAD elements present on the PCI version are missing: "0202 DAC" &
"0202 ADC"
I think it shouldn't be too hard to get emutrix to handle these
changes, as soon as I know what these elements mean, exactly. (And fix
my PC's PSU :p)
BTW, have you gotten your card to work? Tried disabling the on-board card?
Greetings,
Camilo
Ellio Martina
> BTW, have you gotten your card to work? Tried disabling the on-board card?
only can change boot devices and a few other options,
but hardware enabling/disabling is no option.
May be there is some trick to get into these options,
but I have not discovered how to do this.
I checked /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf (openSuse)
It had only the hda-intel listed
So I added snd-emu10k1, hoping that oSyse's yast would
change from an unconfigured sb audigy to the proper one.
---------------- modified sound.conf ------------------
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-emu10k1
# M71A.74kbVjW9aV7:MCP67 High Definition Audio
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-emu10k1
But the strange thing is, that it lists the emu 1010 notebook
but still the unconfigured sbaudigy
Oh how I hate the changes made to how handling
the sound obviously has changed at the point where
you almost have discovered how it works.
Has the handling moved to hal? or any other place
I didn't discover yet.
Well, I keep on trying to get things work
greetz,
Ellio
Ellio Martina
In the amixer controls overview there's no sbaudigy listed
Does it come from Alsa's Creative cards listing?
The emu 1010 is not the same as the Audigy I guess,
or do these both have the same chip ID's??
greetings
Ellio
Camilo Polymeris
I checked /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf (openSuse)
It had only the hda-intel listed
So I added snd-emu10k1, hoping that oSyse's yast would
change from an unconfigured sb audigy to the proper one.
---------------- modified sound.conf ------------------
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-emu10k1
# M71A.74kbVjW9aV7:MCP67 High Definition Audio
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-emu10k1
But the strange thing is, that it lists the emu 1010 notebook
but still the unconfigured sbaudigy
Oh how I hate the changes made to how handling
the sound obviously has changed at the point where
you almost have discovered how it works.
Has the handling moved to hal? or any other place
I didn't discover yet.
Mmm. I don't know much about alsa configuration (or linux configuration in general -- never really understood how hal, udev & friends work), I used to have to work a lot to get the E-mu card running, but nowadays the distributions I use (debian and ubuntu) work out-of-the box. Just to be sure: Is your ALSA version at least 1.0.15? And do you have the firmware installed (is under /lib/firmware/emu/emu1010_notebook.fw on my system)?
Also, check:
dmesg | grep -i emu
Any interesting messages?
Greetings,
Camilo
Camilo Polymeris
In the amixer controls overview there's no sbaudigy listed
Does it come from Alsa's Creative cards listing?
The emu 1010 is not the same as the Audigy I guess,
or do these both have the same chip ID's??
They are both manufactured by Creative, and some Audigies use a similar chip to Emu's "CA0102". The main difference is that emu has an FPGA, too, I think. Both use the same ALSA drivers, I don't know how the kernel tells them apart.
Greetings,
Camilo