Can't compile axon version of ra25
Stephen Read
Just tried to do core run on the axon version of ra25 and got this:
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:ra25 read$ cd /Users/read/CogentCore_leabra\&axon/axon
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:axon read$ git clone https://github.com/emer/axon
Cloning into 'axon'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 29986, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (10980/10980), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (2237/2237), done.
remote: Total 29986 (delta 9058), reused 10160 (delta 8707), pack-reused 19006 (from 1)
Receiving objects: 100% (29986/29986), 133.41 MiB | 3.15 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (23745/23745), done.
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:axon read$ ls
axon
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:axon read$ cd axon/examples/ra25
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:ra25 read$ ls
README.md ra25.go typegen.go
grunter_ror.py ra25.py weights_test.go
params.go random_5x5_25.tsv
params_good random_5x5_25_gen.csv
(base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:ra25 read$ core run
go build -ldflags -s -w -X cogentcore.org/core/system.AppVersion=v2.0.0-dev0.2.1-34-g20c7d233 -X cogentcore.org/core/system.CoreVersion=v0.3.3-0.20240828192310-4322e1aa7196 -o /Users/read/CogentCore_leabra&axon/axon/axon/examples/ra25/Ra25
go: downloading cogentcore.org/core v0.3.3-0.20240828192310-4322e1aa7196
go: downloading github.com/emer/emergent/v2 v2.0.0-dev0.1.0.0.20240828203321-c67ca550ce89
go: downloading github.com/goki/vulkan v1.0.8
# github.com/emer/axon/v2/axon
../../axon/logging.go:685:8: undefined: split.AggAllNumericColumns
core run failed: error building app: build: error building for platform darwin/arm64: failed to run "go build -ldflags -s -w -X cogentcore.org/core/system.AppVersion=v2.0.0-dev0.2.1-34-g20c7d233 -X cogentcore.org/core/system.CoreVersion=v0.3.3-0.20240828192310-4322e1aa7196 -o /Users/read/CogentCore_leabra&axon/axon/axon/examples/ra25/Ra25: exit status 1"
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University of Southern California
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Stephen Read
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Stephen Read
Thank you much.
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University of Southern California
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Date: Friday, September 6, 2024 at 10:30 AM
To: Stephen Read <re...@usc.edu>
Cc: O'Reilly Kai <koreil...@gmail.com>, emergent-users <emergen...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can't compile axon version of ra25
Ok I updated the go.mod for axon and added the emergent wiki install link back to the readmes. Cheers,
- Randy
> On Sep 6, 2024, at 8:28
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> Great!
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> Yes, we will fix that soon; the module versions are just out of date.
> On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 4:47:12
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> Just tried to do core run on the axon version of ra25 and got this:
> (base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:ra25 read$ cd /Users/read/CogentCore_leabra\&axon/axon
> (base) Stephen-Reads-M3-Max:axon read$ git clone
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/emer/axon__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!vBavN2jt4U1xZfLb6JaBgv-VNULmW1Z6xFI12yR89bt98ABqhQZFeU6VZhf36WCojQQoE6-xLU-t8bE$
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Stephen Read
Okay, I was just playing with the axon version of ra25 and it actually seemed slower than the leabra version.
Steve
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Subject: Re: Can't compile axon version of ra25
actually, axon is in a bit of a zombie state right now -- I'm in the middle of a huge GPU update and somehow part of that ended up in the main branch -- I guess I forgot to switch soon enough. So I would
stay away from that for now. Cheers,
- Randy
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> Thank you much.
> Stephen J. Read
> Mendel B. Silberberg Professor of Social Psychology
> Department of Psychology
> University of Southern California
> Los Angeles, CA 90089-1061
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btw, axon used to be _much_ slower than leabra because it used to do a synapse-level co-product of sender * recv spiking, to compute calcium that drives learning. I was recently able to use a simpler linear approximation to that computation that speeded it up considerably!
- Randy
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Stephen Read
Ah, I had thought that because axon could use the GPU it was faster. But now I understand.
Stephen J. Read
Mendel B. Silberberg Professor of Social Psychology
Department of Psychology
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-1061
Website: www.stephenjread.com
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Date: Friday, September 6, 2024 at 12:20 PM
To: Stephen Read <re...@usc.edu>
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Subject: Re: Can't compile axon version of ra25
Indeed, axon has more complex neurons and is slower than leabra. It also needs more neurons because each one is noisier. As we discuss in the textbook, 1 rate code neuron is
an approximation to 100 spiking neurons -- fortunately we don't need 100x more neurons in axon, but we do need maybe 2x in general.
btw, axon used to be _much_ slower than leabra because it used to do a synapse-level co-product of sender * recv spiking, to compute calcium that drives learning. I was recently able to use a simpler linear approximation to that computation that speeded it
up considerably!
- Randy
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AM, Stephen Read <re...@usc.edu> wrote:
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> Steve
> Stephen J. Read
> Mendel B. Silberberg Professor of Social Psychology
> Department of Psychology
> University of Southern California
> Los Angeles, CA 90089-1061
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