Fwd: 16 DEC

[Am Malik]

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From: Am Malik <nmal...@gmail.com>
Date: 12 December 2014 at 16:09
Subject: Re: 16 DEC
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Goodness me! I had received email from TI last night informing me of the various places Dharnas will take place.  I am taken aback to see the name of one Ashraf Qureshi as organiser for dharna at Star Gate. He is one of the greatest Land grabbers in Karachi and faking the selling  of plots to the widows and the poor people- has digested their money. Who so ever wants a refund - as nothing has taken place since the past eight years or so - he is dealt harshly with an out right refusal.     

The only reason he joined TI is to shield himself from any punitive/legal actions by the affectees/looted poor people

am

On 12 December 2014 at 12:21, Shahbaz Thuthaal <shahbaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Col Nazir

 

You are right, 16 Dec 2014 is day of shame for us, but have we learnt any lessons? The ones , who should have been court martialed they took over the COUNTRY?

Imran khan is also advised to learn from the PAST?

 

IMRAN KHAN And PTI leaders should read NAZIR Najis's COLUMN in Daily "DUNYA'. Nazir Naji was part of PPP since 1970 as he writes from personel Experience?

I wonder if "Our KAPTAN" has the TIME to read the columns?

 

He can also ask ASAD OMAR to give the Experience of his Father Gen OMAR, who was DMO in 1969 and later part of the inner circle of Gen Yayha?

 

warm regards

Muhammad Shahbaz Thathaal

On 11 December 2014 at 20:24, nazir ahmad <n_ah...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Chairman Tahrik - e - Insaf Mr. Imran Khan, in his ongoing struggle to seek justice against rigged elections in 2013 announced to give a country wide shut-down call for 16 Dec (the date was changed later). In response, politicians including Mr. Asif Zardari were very vocal in criticizing him.

It is good that Imran Khan has reminded our political class about breakup of Pakistan of 1947 caused by rulers of then West Pakistan; the predecessors of present decadent ruling elite carrying on with those traditions.

This date is remembered by different people in different context.

 

·       The ruling elite feel relieved, satisfied and happy to have shed the majority Bengalis who were a nuisance for ruling classes of West Pakistan.

·      
Pakistani press, especially the columnists continue to reinforce brazen lies, maligning Pakistan Army for crimes committed by others. 

·      
Some of us who were part of that contingent comprising about thirty two thousand armed forces persons abandoned in Bengal and are still alive continue to feel dejected to see the perpetuation of lies about that tragic chapter of Pakistan’s short history.

·       Total number of POWs of all categories including civilians was not more than about forty five thousands, maliciously touted as about hundred thousand army.

Truth however is being revealed by writings of people like Dr. Sarmila Bose, a Bengali Hindu scholar, proving Indo-Bangladesh narrative to be utterly false.

Col (retd) Nazir Ahmed

(author, 'EAST PAKISTAN 1971, Distortions and Lies')

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Subject: Re: Activists from hardline Hindu group

The poverty stricken, illiterate masses are always susceptible to the social pressures of their environment. The monitory lure and other social interests can easily sway their ideological beliefs. The emotional intelligence and the consciousness of the ‘Self’ hardly exists among them. The importance of their existence is often defined by the unwritten rules of the local social and cultural values. Their contributions to the human society are only slightly higher than some of the intelligent species of chimpanzees could offer. Their physical ability of walking on two limbs is perhaps the most striking attribute to include them in the human species. Unfortunately, the intelligence level of millions of people in Indo-Pak continent falls under that category and they display their day to day behaviour accordingly. Millions of them continue to suffer because of socio-political problems that have existed on that subcontinent for centuries. The inadequate governance coupled with the explosion of population is basically the main cause of stubborn poverty and illiteracy that hangs like a heavy drag around their necks.

Javed Chaudry

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:05 AM, Shahbaz Thuthaal <shahbaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

May be ALLAMA Mashriqui and ALLAMA Azad were right

Shahbaz

On Dec 11, 2014 5:58 PM, <nkhan...@aol.com> wrote:

RSS converts 350 Muslims to Hinduism, say papers

The Newspaper's Correspondent

Updated about 7 hours ago

Activists from hardline Hindu group Bajrang Dal shout slogans during a protest. — Reuters/File

NEW DELHI: A row has broken out over the reported conversion of over 350 Muslims to Hinduism in Agra by Hindu right wing organisations Bajrang Dal and Dharm Jagran Manch, newspapers said on Wednesday. They said the two organisations are also being accused of luring people with the promise of monetary benefits.

The conversions are said to have taken place on Monday at Madhunagar slum area in Agra where the two Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) affiliates organised a “Purkhon ki ghar vapsi” (homecoming for ancestors).

The programme saw around 60 Muslim families being converted amid chanting of hymns. The organisers now plan to hold a month-long training session for these “converts” on Hindu rituals and culture.

Sources say the “converts,” mostly hailing from Bihar and West Bengal, were promised BPL (below poverty line) and Aadhaar cards, besides free housing plots. But programme coordinator Ajju Chauhan reportedly claimed the conversion was voluntary. However, a couple of people later told mediapersons that the organisers had promised monetary and other benefits under government-sponsored schemes.

“We will look into the entire programme and order a detailed probe if needed,” said Samajwadi Party spokesperson Rajender Choud­hary.

Bahujan Samaj Party supremo Mayawati said the incident was the handiwork of communal forces who were trying to vitiate the peace in the state. She demanded strict action against such organisations.

On the other hand, BJP MP Vinay Katiyar said there should be no objection to the programme as those who converted were originally Hindus and it was like homecoming for them.

This Christmas, according to reports, the RSS plans to convert at least 4,000 Christian and 1,000 Muslim families into Hinduism under what it calls the ‘Ghar Wapsi’ (returning home) programme.

Organisers claim the event in Aligarh will be one of the biggest ever conversion programmes.

It has chosen the city, Aligarh, and the day, Dec 25, carefully. “Aligarh was chosen because it’s time we wrest the Hindu city from Muslims. It is a city of brave Rajputs and their temples on whose remains Muslim institutions have been established,” RSS regional pracharak Rajeshwar Singh reportedly said.

Christmas was chosen as the day for conversion because the event is a “shakti pariksha” (test of strength) for both religions, said Mr Singh. “If their religion is better, they can stop them. It is a test for both of us. If they come to us on Christmas, it is the biggest rejection of the faith.”

The families have already been identified from 40 slums in Aligarh, Bulandshahr and Hathras, Singh said. “The 4,000 Christian families belong to the Valmiki samaj. The (low caste) Valmiki Samaj is the feet of the Hindu society. We are incomplete without them.”

The 1,000 Muslim families who have been identified for the conversion are descendants of Thakurs and Brahmins who have been convinced of their “lost pride”, Mr Singh claimed. RSS workers said the conversion was an annual event but it has been low profile all these years.

Published in Dawn, December 11th, 2014

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What is the Appropriate Dress Length for a Middle-Aged Woman?

An Answer to a Hemline Question

ENLARGE

Q:What is the appropriate dress length for a middle-aged (55) woman?

I purchased an Elizabeth and James silk-charmeuse shift dress with large fluted sleeves that I wear exclusively to weddings. I love this dress but am conscious that the length falls an inch above my knees and a bit higher in the back. I wear it with high-heeled sandals to take advantage of my legs and the fluidity of the dress but I am wondering if this dress is age appropriate. I live in Northern California, where, I believe, fashion is less constricted.

—C.G.

A:It’s been ages since skirt lengths matter in fashion. The right hemlines now center around the cut and silhouette of the dress or skirt as well as your size. However, while some women may object, I think for women over 45, miniskirts are off the menu for good.

Regardless of age, women with heavier legs or wide knees will always need to go a tad longer. The difference of a half inch can be huge. As your tailor tweaks the skirt length, always wear your chosen heel height and get the skirt pinned all the way around so you can check in the mirror from every angle.

It’s hard to get a clear sense of the hemline of your party dress. I think you should try it on for a personal shopper to get a frank opinion. The very fact you’re unsure suggests you aren’t entirely confident it’s perfect on you. And if you aren’t entirely comfortable, you won’t pull this look off.

The ideal hemline length for most mature women will be short enough to highlight your calves, the prettiest part of your legs. That means the length will vary from the lower half of your knee to as much as 2 inches below your knee, or longer—depending on how full or narrow the skirt is.

You can wear a new hemline first to a low-key event to see how you feel about it.

Keep in mind:

With tight, stretchy skirts, go longer—2 inches or so below your knee. A skirt is always too tight if it rides up around the hipline or cups your rear end. A small slit in the back may help you move more comfortably. But a high, front slit is probably not the showy look you want.

Go long with pleated skirts and peasant skirts, which can go to above the ankle. To avoid the thick-around-the-middle look, never wear circle or gathered skirts. The fullness should be controlled, with stitched-down pleats or gores or tiers that start at the hipline, creating a sexy swing when you walk.

Try wearing sheer hosiery, which has been making a comeback, or black tights. They will make your legs look firmer, longer—and younger.

Write to Teri Agins at ask...@wsj.com

      

         

Pakistani Taliban Call Malala Yousafzai an ‘Enemy of Islam’

Militant Group Vows to Continue Attacking Their Opponents

Nobel Peace Prize laureate Malala Yousafzai during a press conference in Oslo, Norway. European Pressphoto Agency

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Qasim Nauman and

Safdar Dawar

Dec. 11, 2014 6:18 a.m. ET

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ISLAMABAD—The Pakistani Taliban Thursday called Malala Yousafzai an “enemy of Islam” and vowed to continue attacking their opponents, issuing their latest threat a day after the teenage education activist from northwestern Pakistan received the Nobel Peace Prize.

“Malala is a valuable weapon in this cultural war, which the West has lost in the Middle East and the rest of the world,” Muhammad Khurasani, the Pakistani Taliban spokesman, said in a statement, accusing Ms. Yousafzai and her father of maligning Islam in exchange for money and fame.

Ms. Yousafzai, now 17 years old, became a national figure in Pakistan in 2009, when she started speaking out against the Taliban in her native Swat Valley. The militant group, which had taken control of most of the valley in 2008, shut down schools and restricted access to education for girls. She began with an online journal, documenting life under the Taliban, and then started campaigning for universal education and women’s rights.

Two years ago, the Pakistani Taliban shot her in the head in an assassination attempt. Ms. Yousafzai was on her way home from school in Swat when gunmen stopped the school van, asked other students to identify her, and then opened fire. Ms. Yousafzai, seriously wounded, was stabilized and flown out of Pakistan for emergency treatment and rehabilitation. She currently attends school in Birmingham, in the U.K., where she lives with her family.

The Pakistani Taliban were driven out of Swat in a 2009 military operation. However, the group continues to carry out targeted assassinations of their opponents.

ENLARGE

       

Indian Court Halts Imports of Xiaomi Smartphones

Chinese Firm’s Products Banned in India Pending Court Hearing

ENLARGE Three models of China's Xiaomi Mi phones are seen during their launch in New Delhi on July 15. An Indian court has banned imports of Xiaomi phones pending a court hearing. Reuters

By

R. Jai Krishna in New Delhi and

Gillian Wong in Hong Kong

 

Updated Dec. 11, 2014 2:37 a.m. ET

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An Indian court has halted the imports of handsets from China’s largest smartphone maker, Xiaomi Inc., in response to a complaint from Sweden’s Ericsson that the Chinese firm was using Ericsson’s technology but refusing to pay royalties.

The High Court of Delhi said Xiaomi products wouldn’t be allowed into India and Xiaomi’s main distributor, online retailer Flipkart Internet Pvt. Ltd., wouldn’t be allowed to sell Xiaomi products as the court waits to hear Ericsson’s complaint.

Court documents showed that the next hearing on the case is scheduled for Feb. 5.

Xiaomi’s lawyers are still looking into the court’s order to decide what it means and what it will do next, said Manu Jain, Xiaomi’s India operations head.

“India is a very important market for Xiaomi and we will respond promptly as needed and in full compliance with Indian laws,” he said. “We are open to working with Ericsson to resolve this matter amicably.”

Related

• Xiaomi Defends Its Smartphone Business Model
• How Xiaomi Relies on Its ‘Family’ of Customers

Xiaomi launched its first smartphone in India in July and captured 1.5% of the Indian smartphone market in the third quarter, according to Counterpoint Research. The research firm earlier said Xiaomi was on track to double its market share this quarter.

Xiaomi’s global vice president, Hugo Barra, said late last month that Xiaomi had sold more than 500,000 devices in India by October

Ericsson said it has tried for years to get Xiaomi to pay a licensing fee for Ericsson technology that it built into Xiaomi mobile devices.

“To continue investing in research and enabling the development of new ideas, new standards and new platforms to the industry, we must obtain a fair return on our R&D investments,” said an Ericsson India spokeswoman in a statement. “We look forward to working with Xiaomi to reach a mutually fair and reasonable conclusion, just as we do with all of our licensees.”

—Dhanya Ann Thoppil in Bangalore, India, contributed to this article.

Write to R. Jai Krishna at krish...@wsj.com

 

 

Subject: I had Requested a Friend, VP of a major Bank, who works in Rural Punjab, for his impressions.

Very true for majority of rural population.

Punjab's rural population having lived poor for centuries has lost all sensivity. They harbor bigotry against one another, which translate into fights, feuds, rapes and murders. They end up being locked up in Police station. Then, they look up to MPA/MNA, Feudal/ Chaudhri/ Zamindar, to help them with their release, or get them a bail. They remain obliged that Zamindar is their rescuer/protector and always vote for him.

Life of rural poor move around this, or collecting some wheat, rice to survive. They hardly have courage to say NO to illegitimate demands of feudal, lord who also happens to be their "Ruhani Peshwa" in southern Punjab and Sind. Their so called honor has no meaning in front of Zamindar.. It is commonplace for women of agri worker families, to sleep with Zamindars and have his children. His illegitimate male children later become guard of Zamindar and protect him from his enemies.

Police works on the whims of landlords and zamindars in rural Punjab, to torture common populace at his behest. Generations old abject poverty has rendered them visionless, thoughtless and directionless.

On top of all, having sex with Zamindar is considered a matter of pride, not a social/moral taboo by women of working class.

 

nkhan...@aol.com

Naseem Khan

 

 

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