Re: sepia questions and emacs-perl discussion group
Joe Brenner
Sean <educat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would prefer something not Google-affiliated, because their
> stuff tends to break when you block their tracking cookie. I
> won't regularly click through the groups interface to monitor
> such a thing, so either a mailing list or something with an RSS
> feed would be best.
The google groups stuff does have an email interface on it though...
you can treat it like a mailing list (I believe it also has an RSS
feed).
Just for the hell of it, I'm cc-ing this message to
"emacs-perl-...@googlegroups.com" to verify that it shows up
there.
Once you've signed-up, you can configure the group to recieve the traffic
as email.
> I keep an eye on the EmacsWiki changes feed, so a section of the Perl
> page there could work, or a separate Sepia page.
Yes, I noticed that there isn't a Sepia page there yet. I almost
created one, but then, I don't have that much to say yet.
The process I lean towards these days is to first talk out some issues in
a discussion forum, and then try to summarize results somewhere like
the emacswiki.
> In any case, Perl and CPAN already have too many forums for module
> authors and users to keep track of (cpanforum, anyone?), so it would
> be great if you could make this parasitic on some existing Perl
> resource.
I know the feeling: "there are too many already! why another?".
My contention is that when you talk about this stuff on an emacs
forum, there's pressure on you not to go too far into the perl side
of things, and vice-versa when on a perl forum. I've got a feeling
we can get into this further if we've got a place dedicated to the
overlap.
> To answer Rolf's question: "sepia-repl is really a nice
> alternative to "perl-de0" but is there any feature to activate
> the syntax highlighting of cperl-mode?" There is not currently
> such a feature. I think that adding one would require either
> weird cleverness (e.g. changing the prompt to look like a
> statement) or hacking cperl's syntax highlighting to ignore it.
> The latter terrifies me.
No way to use something like mmm-mode?
LanX
> To answer Rolf's question: "sepia-repl is really a nice
> alternative to "perl-de0" but is there any feature to activate
> the syntax highlighting of cperl-mode?" There is not currently
> such a feature. I think that adding one would require either
> weird cleverness (e.g. changing the prompt to look like a
> statement) or hacking cperl's syntax highlighting to ignore it.
> The latter terrifies me.
No way to use something like mmm-mode?
See http://www.perlmonks.org/?displaytype=print;node_id=745098
Should be not too difficult to "borrow" at least some basics from cperl and to add font-lock to sepia. Anyway I have to dig for these files on my old computer ;-)
The bigger question behind this if cperl-mode shouldn't be better documented and analysed and modularized.
I read that Jonathan Rockway is trying plenty of cperl enhancements:
see http://blog.jrock.us/tags/emacs
Maybe he has a deeper insight?
Cheers
Rolf
LanX
> Sean<educated_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I would prefer something not Google-affiliated, because their
> > stuff tends to break when you block their tracking cookie. I
> > won't regularly click through the groups interface to monitor
> > such a thing, so either a mailing list or something with an RSS
> > feed would be best.
Actually I need to start a second browser to work here...
Just a thought: What about yahoo-groups?
I used it for years now,
* it's stable,
* it has mailinglistfeatures
* Fileuploads are possible
* Discussions are visible and browsable in the net
* Google cant track us!
Cheers
Rolf
Joe Brenner
> > > I would prefer something not Google-affiliated, because their
> > > stuff tends to break when you block their tracking cookie. I
> > > won't regularly click through the groups interface to monitor
> > > such a thing, so either a mailing list or something with an RSS
> > > feed would be best.
>
> I also have difficulties with googlegroups 8(
>
> Actually I need to start a second browser to work here...
Hm... that's weird. Any idea what the trouble is?
(Myself, I'm not touching the web interface at this point...
it's just an email list.)
> Just a thought: What about yahoo-groups?
>
> I used it for years now,
> * it's stable,
> * it has mailinglistfeatures
> * Fileuploads are possible
> * Discussions are visible and browsable in the net
Sounds like it's got most of the features. Can you use the web
interface with cookies and javascript off?
> * Google cant track us!
But yahoo can. But the point is taken.
I'll keep yahoo-groups in mind, and try to take a look at it some
time... though this is starting to seem like the ultimate shed-painting
issue to me, there's just no decision that's going to keep everyone
happy.
(I should start a discussion group to evaluate discussion groups.)